Coverting Word docs to Structured Framemaker
Hi Tracy I don't know whether your "structured Frame" files will be DITA XML topics? If so, you can use MIF2Go to convert your Word docs to DITA, via FM. The process goes like this: 1. Open your Word file in FrameMaker and save it as an FM file. 2. Choose File > Save using MIF2Go > DITA. 3. Specify the conversion settings in the mif2htm.ini file, for example Heading*=title Don't worry about the name mif2htm.ini; you will get a conversion to DITA XML topics, not to HTML. Your FM book will even be converted to a ditamap! 4. Go! 5. If necessary, fine-tune your conversion settings (using the Help file) and run the conversion again. Cheers -- Yves Barbion ? Managing Director ? Adobe-Certified FrameMaker Instructor www.scripto.nu ? skype: yves.barbion ? T: +32 494 12 01 89 On Tue, May 5, 2009 at 9:51 PM, Gill, Tracy wrote: > Hi All, > > > > Has anyone any expertise in converting word docs to structured > framemaker. I have done a lot of converting unstructured frame to > structured frame using the conversion table and wondered whether I would > use the same process for word documents? > > > > Thanks > > Tracy > > > > Good planets are hard to find - please think of the environment before you > print this email. > > CAUTION - This message may contain privileged and confidential > information intended only for the use of the addressee named above. > If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby > notified that any use, dissemination, distribution or reproduction > of this message is prohibited. If you have received this message in > error please notify Air New Zealand immediately. Any views expressed > in this message are those of the individual sender and may not > necessarily reflect the views of Air New Zealand. > _ > For more information on the Air New Zealand Group, visit us online > at http://www.airnewzealand.com > _ > ___ > > > You are currently subscribed to Framers as yves.barbion at gmail.com. > > Send list messages to framers at lists.frameusers.com. > > To unsubscribe send a blank email to > framers-unsubscribe at lists.frameusers.com > or visit > http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/yves.barbion%40gmail.com > > Send administrative questions to listadmin at frameusers.com. Visit > http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. >
Coverting Word docs to Structured Framemaker
Hello Tracy, We've got a lot of expertise in converting word docs to medium-neutral sources. What we always do is a transformation outside framemaker. We transform the WordML (Word's XML scheme) to the disired DTD or scheme with a XSLT conversion. The way to go there is the same as you know it, only the technology used is different. You first make an analysis of the source files and map this to the disired DTD (structure). The result will be a conversion table that you need to translate to XSLT syntax (the most difficult part of the job). Hope this helps. Met vriendelijke groeten, Kind regards, Jurgen Willems Owner/General manager ? Crius Group Industriepark 20 Hulshout 2235 Belgium Work: +32 15 750 750 Mobile: +32 496 51 35 77 Email: jurgen at crius-group.com IM: jurgen_willems (Skype) http://www.linkedin.com/in/jurgenwillems -Original Message- From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of framers-request at lists.frameusers.com Sent: zondag 10 mei 2009 9:00 To: framers at lists.frameusers.com Subject: Framers Digest, Vol 43, Issue 8 Send Framers mailing list submissions to framers at lists.frameusers.com To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/listinfo/framers or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to framers-request at lists.frameusers.com You can reach the person managing the list at framers-owner at lists.frameusers.com When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Framers digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Coverting Word docs to Structured Framemaker (Gill, Tracy) 2. OT: Adobe TCS2--RoboHelp 8 integration with FrameMaker 9 (Peter Kelly) 3. Re: Paragraph Designer Sticks in FM9 (Jenny Greenleaf) 4. Aligning Tables (Mike Hatmaker) 5. Conference: Technical Communication UK, 2009 (Martin Ley) 6. Re: Paragraph Designer Sticks in FM9 (Whites) 7. RE: Paragraph Designer Sticks in FM9 (RJ Jacquez) -- Message: 1 Date: Wed, 6 May 2009 07:51:11 +1200 From: "Gill, Tracy" Subject: Coverting Word docs to Structured Framemaker To: Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Hi All, Has anyone any expertise in converting word docs to structured framemaker. I have done a lot of converting unstructured frame to structured frame using the conversion table and wondered whether I would use the same process for word documents? Thanks Tracy Good planets are hard to find - please think of the environment before you print this email. CAUTION - This message may contain privileged and confidential information intended only for the use of the addressee named above. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified that any use, dissemination, distribution or reproduction of this message is prohibited. If you have received this message in error please notify Air New Zealand immediately. Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender and may not necessarily reflect the views of Air New Zealand. _ For more information on the Air New Zealand Group, visit us online at http://www.airnewzealand.com _ -- Message: 2 Date: Wed, 6 May 2009 16:29:23 -0400 From: "Peter Kelly" Subject: OT: Adobe TCS2--RoboHelp 8 integration with FrameMaker 9 To: Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Hello everybody, I just tried evaluating the Adobe Technical Communication Suite 2 and found that RoboHelp 8 in particular did not produce consistent results. I managed to corrupt every project I created only by continuously making changes in the style mappings from FM to RH and then regenerating. Sometimes the TOC would not generate at all. Has anyone been using RH8 and has anyone been able to get good results? If so what are you doing right? Yes I watched the tutorial Adobe produced on FM9 and RH8, which helped improve my results but it doesn't change the fact that RH8 seems unstable. Best, Peter -- Message: 3 Date: Thu, 07 May 2009 14:27:16 -0700 From: Jenny Greenleaf Subject: Re: Paragraph Designer Sticks in FM9 To: framers at lists.frameusers.com Cc: Madeleine r Dimond Message-ID: <86E189A6-8315-4DC4-BD63-277A1C91398F at mac.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes I've seen that one too. I've also had repeated crashes when trying to delete variables from a Frame 7 template. It's done it several times. Prior to that,
RE: Coverting Word docs to Structured Framemaker
Hello Tracy, We've got a lot of expertise in converting word docs to medium-neutral sources. What we always do is a transformation outside framemaker. We transform the WordML (Word's XML scheme) to the disired DTD or scheme with a XSLT conversion. The way to go there is the same as you know it, only the technology used is different. You first make an analysis of the source files and map this to the disired DTD (structure). The result will be a conversion table that you need to translate to XSLT syntax (the most difficult part of the job). Hope this helps. Met vriendelijke groeten, Kind regards, Jurgen Willems Owner/General manager Crius Group Industriepark 20 Hulshout 2235 Belgium Work: +32 15 750 750 Mobile: +32 496 51 35 77 Email: jur...@crius-group.com IM: jurgen_willems (Skype) http://www.linkedin.com/in/jurgenwillems -Original Message- From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of framers-requ...@lists.frameusers.com Sent: zondag 10 mei 2009 9:00 To: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: Framers Digest, Vol 43, Issue 8 Send Framers mailing list submissions to framers@lists.frameusers.com To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/listinfo/framers or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to framers-requ...@lists.frameusers.com You can reach the person managing the list at framers-ow...@lists.frameusers.com When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Framers digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Coverting Word docs to Structured Framemaker (Gill, Tracy) 2. OT: Adobe TCS2--RoboHelp 8 integration with FrameMaker 9 (Peter Kelly) 3. Re: Paragraph Designer Sticks in FM9 (Jenny Greenleaf) 4. Aligning Tables (Mike Hatmaker) 5. Conference: Technical Communication UK, 2009 (Martin Ley) 6. Re: Paragraph Designer Sticks in FM9 (Whites) 7. RE: Paragraph Designer Sticks in FM9 (RJ Jacquez) -- Message: 1 Date: Wed, 6 May 2009 07:51:11 +1200 From: "Gill, Tracy" Subject: Coverting Word docs to Structured Framemaker To: Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Hi All, Has anyone any expertise in converting word docs to structured framemaker. I have done a lot of converting unstructured frame to structured frame using the conversion table and wondered whether I would use the same process for word documents? Thanks Tracy Good planets are hard to find - please think of the environment before you print this email. CAUTION - This message may contain privileged and confidential information intended only for the use of the addressee named above. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified that any use, dissemination, distribution or reproduction of this message is prohibited. If you have received this message in error please notify Air New Zealand immediately. Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender and may not necessarily reflect the views of Air New Zealand. _ For more information on the Air New Zealand Group, visit us online at http://www.airnewzealand.com _ -- Message: 2 Date: Wed, 6 May 2009 16:29:23 -0400 From: "Peter Kelly" Subject: OT: Adobe TCS2--RoboHelp 8 integration with FrameMaker 9 To: Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Hello everybody, I just tried evaluating the Adobe Technical Communication Suite 2 and found that RoboHelp 8 in particular did not produce consistent results. I managed to corrupt every project I created only by continuously making changes in the style mappings from FM to RH and then regenerating. Sometimes the TOC would not generate at all. Has anyone been using RH8 and has anyone been able to get good results? If so what are you doing right? Yes I watched the tutorial Adobe produced on FM9 and RH8, which helped improve my results but it doesn't change the fact that RH8 seems unstable. Best, Peter -- Message: 3 Date: Thu, 07 May 2009 14:27:16 -0700 From: Jenny Greenleaf Subject: Re: Paragraph Designer Sticks in FM9 To: framers@lists.frameusers.com Cc: Madeleine r Dimond Message-ID: <86e189a6-8315-4dc4-bd63-277a1c913...@mac.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes I've seen that one too. I've also had repeated crashes when trying to delete variables from a Frame 7 template. It's done it several times. Prior to that, I can click on a variable name
Re: Coverting Word docs to Structured Framemaker
Tracy, At my previous job, I was heavily involved in exactly this type of work for a variety of clients. This included designing templates, conversion tables and even developing custom tools (using FrameMaker's Development Kit [FDK]) to automate repative tasks. Our firm processed hundreds of thousands of pages from Word to structured Frame and generated richly linked (TOCs and cross-references) SGML, XML and PDF as outputs. The short answer is yes, the process is essentially the same after importing the Word file into FrameMaker, as that converts the Word source to an unstructured FM document. The biggest caveat is that the Word documents should use well-defined styles consistently rather than the all too frequent practice of ad-hoc formatting (just because it looks like a Heading 1 does not mean it it really tagged as a Heading 1), so cleanup is essential, either in Word (via macros perhaps) or in Frame (custom FDK tools, FrameScript, etc) and even in both applications before applying a conversion table to get the greatest success. – Les --- On Tue, 5/5/09, Gill, Tracy wrote: Hi All, Has anyone any expertise in converting word docs to structured framemaker. I have done a lot of converting unstructured frame to structured frame using the conversion table and wondered whether I would use the same process for word documents? Thanks Tracy ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Coverting Word docs to Structured Framemaker
Tracy, At my previous job, I was heavily involved in exactly this type of work for a variety of clients.? This included designing templates, conversion tables and even developing custom tools (using FrameMaker's Development Kit [FDK]) to automate repative tasks.? Our firm processed hundreds of thousands of pages from Word to structured Frame and generated richly linked (TOCs and cross-references) SGML, XML and PDF as outputs. The short answer is yes, the process is essentially the same after importing the Word file into FrameMaker, as that converts the Word source to an unstructured FM document. The biggest caveat is that the Word documents should use well-defined styles consistently rather than the all too frequent practice of ad-hoc formatting (just because it looks like a Heading 1 does not mean it it really tagged as a Heading 1), so cleanup is essential, either in Word (via macros perhaps) or in Frame (custom FDK tools, FrameScript, etc) and even in both applications before applying a conversion table to get the greatest success. ? Les --- On Tue, 5/5/09, Gill, Tracy wrote: Hi All, Has anyone any expertise in converting word docs to structured framemaker.? I have done a lot of converting unstructured frame to structured frame using the conversion table and wondered whether I would use the same process for word documents? Thanks Tracy
Re: Coverting Word docs to Structured Framemaker
Hi Tracy I don't know whether your "structured Frame" files will be DITA XML topics? If so, you can use MIF2Go to convert your Word docs to DITA, via FM. The process goes like this: 1. Open your Word file in FrameMaker and save it as an FM file. 2. Choose File > Save using MIF2Go > DITA. 3. Specify the conversion settings in the mif2htm.ini file, for example Heading*=title Don't worry about the name mif2htm.ini; you will get a conversion to DITA XML topics, not to HTML. Your FM book will even be converted to a ditamap! 4. Go! 5. If necessary, fine-tune your conversion settings (using the Help file) and run the conversion again. Cheers -- Yves Barbion • Managing Director • Adobe-Certified FrameMaker Instructor www.scripto.nu • skype: yves.barbion • T: +32 494 12 01 89 On Tue, May 5, 2009 at 9:51 PM, Gill, Tracy wrote: > Hi All, > > > > Has anyone any expertise in converting word docs to structured > framemaker. I have done a lot of converting unstructured frame to > structured frame using the conversion table and wondered whether I would > use the same process for word documents? > > > > Thanks > > Tracy > > > > Good planets are hard to find - please think of the environment before you > print this email. > > CAUTION - This message may contain privileged and confidential > information intended only for the use of the addressee named above. > If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby > notified that any use, dissemination, distribution or reproduction > of this message is prohibited. If you have received this message in > error please notify Air New Zealand immediately. Any views expressed > in this message are those of the individual sender and may not > necessarily reflect the views of Air New Zealand. > _ > For more information on the Air New Zealand Group, visit us online > at http://www.airnewzealand.com > _ > ___ > > > You are currently subscribed to Framers as yves.barb...@gmail.com. > > Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. > > To unsubscribe send a blank email to > framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com > or visit > http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/yves.barbion%40gmail.com > > Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit > http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. > ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Coverting Word docs to Structured Framemaker
Hi Tracy: Yes, I have converted Word docs to structured FrameMaker. Yes, I'm turning the Word document into unstructured FrameMaker then using a conversion table. My conversions are a one-time thing, and I prefer working in FrameMaker to working in Word, so I don't bother changing styles or cleaning up anything in Word; I just convert as many things as I can in the conversion table, then do the rest of the tagging in structured FrameMaker. Have fun! Fei Min Lorente -Original Message- From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Gill, Tracy Sent: Tuesday, May 05, 2009 3:51 PM To: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: Coverting Word docs to Structured Framemaker Hi All, Has anyone any expertise in converting word docs to structured framemaker. I have done a lot of converting unstructured frame to structured frame using the conversion table and wondered whether I would use the same process for word documents? Thanks Tracy Good planets are hard to find - please think of the environment before you print this email. CAUTION - This message may contain privileged and confidential information intended only for the use of the addressee named above. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified that any use, dissemination, distribution or reproduction of this message is prohibited. If you have received this message in error please notify Air New Zealand immediately. Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender and may not necessarily reflect the views of Air New Zealand. _ For more information on the Air New Zealand Group, visit us online at http://www.airnewzealand.com _ ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as feimin.lore...@onsemi.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/feimin.lorente%40ons emi.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Coverting Word docs to Structured Framemaker
Hi Tracy: Yes, I have converted Word docs to structured FrameMaker. Yes, I'm turning the Word document into unstructured FrameMaker then using a conversion table. My conversions are a one-time thing, and I prefer working in FrameMaker to working in Word, so I don't bother changing styles or cleaning up anything in Word; I just convert as many things as I can in the conversion table, then do the rest of the tagging in structured FrameMaker. Have fun! Fei Min Lorente -Original Message- From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Gill, Tracy Sent: Tuesday, May 05, 2009 3:51 PM To: framers at lists.frameusers.com Subject: Coverting Word docs to Structured Framemaker Hi All, Has anyone any expertise in converting word docs to structured framemaker. I have done a lot of converting unstructured frame to structured frame using the conversion table and wondered whether I would use the same process for word documents? Thanks Tracy Good planets are hard to find - please think of the environment before you print this email. CAUTION - This message may contain privileged and confidential information intended only for the use of the addressee named above. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified that any use, dissemination, distribution or reproduction of this message is prohibited. If you have received this message in error please notify Air New Zealand immediately. Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender and may not necessarily reflect the views of Air New Zealand. _ For more information on the Air New Zealand Group, visit us online at http://www.airnewzealand.com _ ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as feimin.lorente at onsemi.com. Send list messages to framers at lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscribe at lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/feimin.lorente%40ons emi.com Send administrative questions to listadmin at frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Coverting Word docs to Structured Framemaker
Hi All, Has anyone any expertise in converting word docs to structured framemaker. I have done a lot of converting unstructured frame to structured frame using the conversion table and wondered whether I would use the same process for word documents? Thanks Tracy Good planets are hard to find - please think of the environment before you print this email. CAUTION - This message may contain privileged and confidential information intended only for the use of the addressee named above. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified that any use, dissemination, distribution or reproduction of this message is prohibited. If you have received this message in error please notify Air New Zealand immediately. Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender and may not necessarily reflect the views of Air New Zealand. _ For more information on the Air New Zealand Group, visit us online at http://www.airnewzealand.com _ ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Coverting Word docs to Structured Framemaker
Hi All, Has anyone any expertise in converting word docs to structured framemaker. I have done a lot of converting unstructured frame to structured frame using the conversion table and wondered whether I would use the same process for word documents? Thanks Tracy Good planets are hard to find - please think of the environment before you print this email. CAUTION - This message may contain privileged and confidential information intended only for the use of the addressee named above. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified that any use, dissemination, distribution or reproduction of this message is prohibited. If you have received this message in error please notify Air New Zealand immediately. Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender and may not necessarily reflect the views of Air New Zealand. _ For more information on the Air New Zealand Group, visit us online at http://www.airnewzealand.com _
