FM 8 upgrade woes: some solutions
I'll second that... 8 is much more stable and doesn't leak memory nearly as badly. If you have enough RAM -- 1-2 G, 8 is patched, and the files aren't funky 8 is the way to go. And I've been back saving them to 7.1 and 7.2 since 8 came out; no problems. Art Art Campbell art.campbell at gmail.com "... In my opinion, there's nothing in this world beats a '52 Vincent and a redheaded girl." -- Richard Thompson No disclaimers apply. DoD 358 On Tue, Dec 23, 2008 at 9:32 PM, wrote: > Sorry to hear about the problems you have had, but ... I guess everyone > has their own particular experiences that will differ. > > On both my older XP system, and now my rebuilt Vista system, FM 8 > crashes FAR less frequently than FM 7 (any of the 7.0, 7.1 or 7.2 > versions). > > I find it to be much more stable and consistent and am glad I upgraded. > > -Original Message- > > For my work, for now, I'm sticking with FM 7, which also has its > problems, but is running on my XP machine and crashes MUCH less > frequently. > > -- Emily > ___ > > > You are currently subscribed to Framers as art.campbell at gmail.com. > > Send list messages to framers at lists.frameusers.com. > > To unsubscribe send a blank email to > framers-unsubscribe at lists.frameusers.com > or visit > http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/art.campbell%40gmail.com > > Send administrative questions to listadmin at frameusers.com. Visit > http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. >
FM 8 upgrade woes: some solutions
Sorry to hear about the problems you have had, but ... I guess everyone has their own particular experiences that will differ. On both my older XP system, and now my rebuilt Vista system, FM 8 crashes FAR less frequently than FM 7 (any of the 7.0, 7.1 or 7.2 versions). I find it to be much more stable and consistent and am glad I upgraded. -Original Message- For my work, for now, I'm sticking with FM 7, which also has its problems, but is running on my XP machine and crashes MUCH less frequently. -- Emily
Re: FM 8 upgrade woes: some solutions
I'll second that... 8 is much more stable and doesn't leak memory nearly as badly. If you have enough RAM -- 1-2 G, 8 is patched, and the files aren't funky 8 is the way to go. And I've been back saving them to 7.1 and 7.2 since 8 came out; no problems. Art Art Campbell art.campb...@gmail.com "... In my opinion, there's nothing in this world beats a '52 Vincent and a redheaded girl." -- Richard Thompson No disclaimers apply. DoD 358 On Tue, Dec 23, 2008 at 9:32 PM, wrote: > Sorry to hear about the problems you have had, but ... I guess everyone > has their own particular experiences that will differ. > > On both my older XP system, and now my rebuilt Vista system, FM 8 > crashes FAR less frequently than FM 7 (any of the 7.0, 7.1 or 7.2 > versions). > > I find it to be much more stable and consistent and am glad I upgraded. > > -Original Message- > > For my work, for now, I'm sticking with FM 7, which also has its > problems, but is running on my XP machine and crashes MUCH less > frequently. > > -- Emily > ___ > > > You are currently subscribed to Framers as art.campb...@gmail.com. > > Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. > > To unsubscribe send a blank email to > framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com > or visit > http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/art.campbell%40gmail.com > > Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit > http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. > ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: FM 8 upgrade woes: some solutions
Sorry to hear about the problems you have had, but ... I guess everyone has their own particular experiences that will differ. On both my older XP system, and now my rebuilt Vista system, FM 8 crashes FAR less frequently than FM 7 (any of the 7.0, 7.1 or 7.2 versions). I find it to be much more stable and consistent and am glad I upgraded. -Original Message- For my work, for now, I'm sticking with FM 7, which also has its problems, but is running on my XP machine and crashes MUCH less frequently. -- Emily ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: FM 8 upgrade woes: some solutions
Thank you for the suggestions, Robert. Thing is, I did not "decide" to convert to FM 8 because FM 8 does not actually export files that I was able to read using FM 7. I was forced to use the trial version of FM 8 when my colleague was unable to gen his FM 8 doc on the date due. I understand that he was been able to do it up until the weekend. His book file must have gotten trashed within the last week or so. In other words, the timing simply sucked. I guess I'll go patch my FM trial, but I don't think the problem is only with the trial version because this problem originated on the full-fledged version. (Guess my colleague might want to check into upgrades too, huh?) For my work, for now, I'm sticking with FM 7, which also has its problems, but is running on my XP machine and crashes MUCH less frequently. -- Emily At 07:43 AM 12/23/2008, Shell, Robert wrote: >Dear Emily: >my commiserations. My rig: Vista Professional with 4 gigs ram. > >I converted to FM 8 after Vista upgrade and had quite a few of the problems >you mention. It took me a week to sort out. I too missed my Xmas market. I >too was misled by a page number, but there was nothing wrong with the page, >although the error message was consistent. > >Some lessons I learnt > >1. Never convert to a new version of anything under deadline. > >2. Never test any Adobe product with "Save as .pdf". "Save as .pdf" seems to >work only with a single file. Always go for the postscript route. Goodness >knows why Adobe called their printer "pdf converter" instead of "postscript >converter", however, I was again taken in. This particular problem goes back >to the days of PageMaker. I regard Adobe as a top of the line corporation >and I am sure they will sort it out, but when? I would love to know how >many person hours are lost globally on this wonderful program's output >stage, but I digress > >2. The FM 8 trial came with a partial distiller which seem to hang around >even after the trial was removed. > >3. There are three major FM 8 patches which have to be installed. The last >one was difficult and had to be done twice. Go to the update window and keep >on updating until all is updated. > >4. After the three patch update (which cleaned out my ADSL monthly account), >I inserted the FM8 CD and did a "repair" ; sounds like voodoo, but that was >the thing that worked. The page problem disappeared. > >p.s. If you have Vista and a spare flashdrive, make use of Vista's >superfetch procedure: uses the flashdrive as extra memory. Works fine with >FM8 and distiller. > >Robert Shell Emily Berk http://www.armadillosoft.com/blog ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
FM 8 upgrade woes: some solutions
Thank you for the suggestions, Robert. Thing is, I did not "decide" to convert to FM 8 because FM 8 does not actually export files that I was able to read using FM 7. I was forced to use the trial version of FM 8 when my colleague was unable to gen his FM 8 doc on the date due. I understand that he was been able to do it up until the weekend. His book file must have gotten trashed within the last week or so. In other words, the timing simply sucked. I guess I'll go patch my FM trial, but I don't think the problem is only with the trial version because this problem originated on the full-fledged version. (Guess my colleague might want to check into upgrades too, huh?) For my work, for now, I'm sticking with FM 7, which also has its problems, but is running on my XP machine and crashes MUCH less frequently. -- Emily At 07:43 AM 12/23/2008, Shell, Robert wrote: >Dear Emily: >my commiserations. My rig: Vista Professional with 4 gigs ram. > >I converted to FM 8 after Vista upgrade and had quite a few of the problems >you mention. It took me a week to sort out. I too missed my Xmas market. I >too was misled by a page number, but there was nothing wrong with the page, >although the error message was consistent. > >Some lessons I learnt > >1. Never convert to a new version of anything under deadline. > >2. Never test any Adobe product with "Save as .pdf". "Save as .pdf" seems to >work only with a single file. Always go for the postscript route. Goodness >knows why Adobe called their printer "pdf converter" instead of "postscript >converter", however, I was again taken in. This particular problem goes back >to the days of PageMaker. I regard Adobe as a top of the line corporation >and I am sure they will sort it out, but when? I would love to know how >many person hours are lost globally on this wonderful program's output >stage, but I digress > >2. The FM 8 trial came with a partial distiller which seem to hang around >even after the trial was removed. > >3. There are three major FM 8 patches which have to be installed. The last >one was difficult and had to be done twice. Go to the update window and keep >on updating until all is updated. > >4. After the three patch update (which cleaned out my ADSL monthly account), >I inserted the FM8 CD and did a "repair" ; sounds like voodoo, but that was >the thing that worked. The page problem disappeared. > >p.s. If you have Vista and a spare flashdrive, make use of Vista's >superfetch procedure: uses the flashdrive as extra memory. Works fine with >FM8 and distiller. > >Robert Shell Emily Berk http://www.armadillosoft.com/blog
FM 8 upgrade woes: some solutions
Dear Emily: my commiserations. My rig: Vista Professional with 4 gigs ram. I converted to FM 8 after Vista upgrade and had quite a few of the problems you mention. It took me a week to sort out. I too missed my Xmas market. I too was misled by a page number, but there was nothing wrong with the page, although the error message was consistent. Some lessons I learnt 1. Never convert to a new version of anything under deadline. 2. Never test any Adobe product with "Save as .pdf". "Save as .pdf" seems to work only with a single file. Always go for the postscript route. Goodness knows why Adobe called their printer "pdf converter" instead of "postscript converter", however, I was again taken in. This particular problem goes back to the days of PageMaker. I regard Adobe as a top of the line corporation and I am sure they will sort it out, but when? I would love to know how many person hours are lost globally on this wonderful program's output stage, but I digress 2. The FM 8 trial came with a partial distiller which seem to hang around even after the trial was removed. 3. There are three major FM 8 patches which have to be installed. The last one was difficult and had to be done twice. Go to the update window and keep on updating until all is updated. 4. After the three patch update (which cleaned out my ADSL monthly account), I inserted the FM8 CD and did a "repair" ; sounds like voodoo, but that was the thing that worked. The page problem disappeared. p.s. If you have Vista and a spare flashdrive, make use of Vista's superfetch procedure: uses the flashdrive as extra memory. Works fine with FM8 and distiller. Robert Shell
FM 8 upgrade woes: some solutions
Dear Emily: my commiserations. My rig: Vista Professional with 4 gigs ram. I converted to FM 8 after Vista upgrade and had quite a few of the problems you mention. It took me a week to sort out. I too missed my Xmas market. I too was misled by a page number, but there was nothing wrong with the page, although the error message was consistent. Some lessons I learnt 1. Never convert to a new version of anything under deadline. 2. Never test any Adobe product with "Save as .pdf". "Save as .pdf" seems to work only with a single file. Always go for the postscript route. Goodness knows why Adobe called their printer "pdf converter" instead of "postscript converter", however, I was again taken in. This particular problem goes back to the days of PageMaker. I regard Adobe as a top of the line corporation and I am sure they will sort it out, but when? I would love to know how many person hours are lost globally on this wonderful program's output stage, but I digress 2. The FM 8 trial came with a partial distiller which seem to hang around even after the trial was removed. 3. There are three major FM 8 patches which have to be installed. The last one was difficult and had to be done twice. Go to the update window and keep on updating until all is updated. 4. After the three patch update (which cleaned out my ADSL monthly account), I inserted the FM8 CD and did a "repair" ; sounds like voodoo, but that was the thing that worked. The page problem disappeared. p.s. If you have Vista and a spare flashdrive, make use of Vista's superfetch procedure: uses the flashdrive as extra memory. Works fine with FM8 and distiller. Robert Shell ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
