Footnotes and frames
Uh, from your description, it sounds as if FM is behaving correctly in that you have two streams and it's numbering and keeping each stream's footnotes separate. You're asking it to keep the streams separate in different frames but merge the footnote streams. So to get the look you want, you need to break the correct operation. If it was me, I'd just fake it by putting a superscript number into the outside text. Then create a footnote in the main stream and put the outside text footnote into that. And finally hide the footnote number by creating a character format with the font color set to white. At the end of your production cycle, you'll have to set the outside text footnote number, the manual one, to the right digit, but it'll look like you want it to look. Cheers, art On 9/18/07, Tina Ricks wrote: > I'm working on a document with lots of footnotes. > > > > I have a block of text that is an full-page excerpt from another source, and > the style we've established for this type of information is to put it in a > box. I have a graphic frame (anchored) with a text frame inside that, with > the text from another source. > > > > However, when I do this, the footnote that is in this excerpt gets all > messed up. The numbering starts over at 1, and the footnote text appears at > the bottom of the text frame, not at the bottom of the page with the other > footnotes. > > > > I tried setting the whole thing in a table (another way to get a thin black > line), and my footnote turns into a "table footnote"-it becomes a lowercase > letter instead of a number, and the footnote text appears just below the > table, and not at the bottom of the page. > > > > What I want is a black line around my text excerpt, and I want the footnote > to be just like all the other footnotes, numbered correctly and appearing at > the bottom of the page. The Frame help on footnotes isn't helpful. Would > love some input from a Frame footnote expert, or some other way to get my > text in a black box. Thanks. > > > > Tina > > > > tina ricks | kristina.ricks at verizon.net | 503-531-3233 > > technical writing and editing > > > > ___ > > > You are currently subscribed to Framers as art.campbell at gmail.com. > > Send list messages to framers at lists.frameusers.com. > > To unsubscribe send a blank email to > framers-unsubscribe at lists.frameusers.com > or visit > http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/art.campbell%40gmail.com > > Send administrative questions to listadmin at frameusers.com. Visit > http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. > -- Art Campbell art.campbell at gmail.com "... In my opinion, there's nothing in this world beats a '52 Vincent and a redheaded girl." -- Richard Thompson No disclaimers apply. DoD 358
Footnotes and frames
Hi, Tina:
If all your boxed insets are the same full-page size, you might solve
the problem by creating a custom master page whose main text frame
("tagged template text frame" in "Frame-ese") has a black border.
Import the outside content to the insertion point position, apply the
custom master page, move the insertion point to the line after the
inset, and insert a footnote. This will keep the footnotes operating
correctly.
If the footnote reference number needs to be below the black box
frame, create two template text frames on the master page; the main
one with a black stroke, slightly shorter than full-page height, and
the other below it, without a stroke. Connect them (see Help
"connecting text frames"). Import the inset into the bordered frame,
create a new paragraph in the unbordered frame, and create the
footnote in it.
This will take a little experimentation, but you'll be a much better
Framer-er for it.
If the boxed insets vary in size and position, try to standardize on a
few models, and create a custom master page for each.
HTH
Regards,
Peter
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Peter Gold
KnowHow ProServices
On 9/18/07, Tina Ricks wrote:
> I'm working on a document with lots of footnotes.
>
>
>
> I have a block of text that is an full-page excerpt from another source, and
> the style we've established for this type of information is to put it in a
> box. I have a graphic frame (anchored) with a text frame inside that, with
> the text from another source.
>
>
>
> However, when I do this, the footnote that is in this excerpt gets all
> messed up. The numbering starts over at 1, and the footnote text appears at
> the bottom of the text frame, not at the bottom of the page with the other
> footnotes.
>
>
>
> I tried setting the whole thing in a table (another way to get a thin black
> line), and my footnote turns into a "table footnote"-it becomes a lowercase
> letter instead of a number, and the footnote text appears just below the
> table, and not at the bottom of the page.
>
>
>
> What I want is a black line around my text excerpt, and I want the footnote
> to be just like all the other footnotes, numbered correctly and appearing at
> the bottom of the page. The Frame help on footnotes isn't helpful. Would
> love some input from a Frame footnote expert, or some other way to get my
> text in a black box. Thanks.
>
>
>
> Tina
>
>
>
> tina ricks | kristina.ricks at verizon.net | 503-531-3233
>
> technical writing and editing
>
>
>
> ___
>
>
> You are currently subscribed to Framers as peter at knowhowpro.com.
>
Re: Footnotes and frames
Hi, Tina:
If all your boxed insets are the same full-page size, you might solve
the problem by creating a custom master page whose main text frame
("tagged template text frame" in "Frame-ese") has a black border.
Import the outside content to the insertion point position, apply the
custom master page, move the insertion point to the line after the
inset, and insert a footnote. This will keep the footnotes operating
correctly.
If the footnote reference number needs to be below the black box
frame, create two template text frames on the master page; the main
one with a black stroke, slightly shorter than full-page height, and
the other below it, without a stroke. Connect them (see Help
"connecting text frames"). Import the inset into the bordered frame,
create a new paragraph in the unbordered frame, and create the
footnote in it.
This will take a little experimentation, but you'll be a much better
Framer-er for it.
If the boxed insets vary in size and position, try to standardize on a
few models, and create a custom master page for each.
HTH
Regards,
Peter
___
Peter Gold
KnowHow ProServices
On 9/18/07, Tina Ricks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I'm working on a document with lots of footnotes.
>
>
>
> I have a block of text that is an full-page excerpt from another source, and
> the style we've established for this type of information is to put it in a
> box. I have a graphic frame (anchored) with a text frame inside that, with
> the text from another source.
>
>
>
> However, when I do this, the footnote that is in this excerpt gets all
> messed up. The numbering starts over at 1, and the footnote text appears at
> the bottom of the text frame, not at the bottom of the page with the other
> footnotes.
>
>
>
> I tried setting the whole thing in a table (another way to get a thin black
> line), and my footnote turns into a "table footnote"-it becomes a lowercase
> letter instead of a number, and the footnote text appears just below the
> table, and not at the bottom of the page.
>
>
>
> What I want is a black line around my text excerpt, and I want the footnote
> to be just like all the other footnotes, numbered correctly and appearing at
> the bottom of the page. The Frame help on footnotes isn't helpful. Would
> love some input from a Frame footnote expert, or some other way to get my
> text in a black box. Thanks.
>
>
>
> Tina
>
>
>
> tina ricks | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | 503-531-3233
>
> technical writing and editing
>
>
>
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>
>
> You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Re: Footnotes and frames
Uh, from your description, it sounds as if FM is behaving correctly in that you have two streams and it's numbering and keeping each stream's footnotes separate. You're asking it to keep the streams separate in different frames but merge the footnote streams. So to get the look you want, you need to break the correct operation. If it was me, I'd just fake it by putting a superscript number into the outside text. Then create a footnote in the main stream and put the outside text footnote into that. And finally hide the footnote number by creating a character format with the font color set to white. At the end of your production cycle, you'll have to set the outside text footnote number, the manual one, to the right digit, but it'll look like you want it to look. Cheers, art On 9/18/07, Tina Ricks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I'm working on a document with lots of footnotes. > > > > I have a block of text that is an full-page excerpt from another source, and > the style we've established for this type of information is to put it in a > box. I have a graphic frame (anchored) with a text frame inside that, with > the text from another source. > > > > However, when I do this, the footnote that is in this excerpt gets all > messed up. The numbering starts over at 1, and the footnote text appears at > the bottom of the text frame, not at the bottom of the page with the other > footnotes. > > > > I tried setting the whole thing in a table (another way to get a thin black > line), and my footnote turns into a "table footnote"-it becomes a lowercase > letter instead of a number, and the footnote text appears just below the > table, and not at the bottom of the page. > > > > What I want is a black line around my text excerpt, and I want the footnote > to be just like all the other footnotes, numbered correctly and appearing at > the bottom of the page. The Frame help on footnotes isn't helpful. Would > love some input from a Frame footnote expert, or some other way to get my > text in a black box. Thanks. > > > > Tina > > > > tina ricks | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | 503-531-3233 > > technical writing and editing > > > > ___ > > > You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To unsubscribe send a blank email to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > or visit > http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/art.campbell%40gmail.com > > Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit > http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. > -- Art Campbell [EMAIL PROTECTED] "... In my opinion, there's nothing in this world beats a '52 Vincent and a redheaded girl." -- Richard Thompson No disclaimers apply. DoD 358 ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Footnotes and frames
I'm working on a document with lots of footnotes. I have a block of text that is an full-page excerpt from another source, and the style we've established for this type of information is to put it in a box. I have a graphic frame (anchored) with a text frame inside that, with the text from another source. However, when I do this, the footnote that is in this excerpt gets all messed up. The numbering starts over at 1, and the footnote text appears at the bottom of the text frame, not at the bottom of the page with the other footnotes. I tried setting the whole thing in a table (another way to get a thin black line), and my footnote turns into a "table footnote"-it becomes a lowercase letter instead of a number, and the footnote text appears just below the table, and not at the bottom of the page. What I want is a black line around my text excerpt, and I want the footnote to be just like all the other footnotes, numbered correctly and appearing at the bottom of the page. The Frame help on footnotes isn't helpful. Would love some input from a Frame footnote expert, or some other way to get my text in a black box. Thanks. Tina tina ricks | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | 503-531-3233 technical writing and editing ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Footnotes and frames
I'm working on a document with lots of footnotes. I have a block of text that is an full-page excerpt from another source, and the style we've established for this type of information is to put it in a box. I have a graphic frame (anchored) with a text frame inside that, with the text from another source. However, when I do this, the footnote that is in this excerpt gets all messed up. The numbering starts over at 1, and the footnote text appears at the bottom of the text frame, not at the bottom of the page with the other footnotes. I tried setting the whole thing in a table (another way to get a thin black line), and my footnote turns into a "table footnote"-it becomes a lowercase letter instead of a number, and the footnote text appears just below the table, and not at the bottom of the page. What I want is a black line around my text excerpt, and I want the footnote to be just like all the other footnotes, numbered correctly and appearing at the bottom of the page. The Frame help on footnotes isn't helpful. Would love some input from a Frame footnote expert, or some other way to get my text in a black box. Thanks. Tina tina ricks | kristina.ricks at verizon.net | 503-531-3233 technical writing and editing
