Frame-to-PDF mini-docs

2009-04-27 Thread Carol J. Elkins
Thanks Art and Jeremy. You definitely summed up my problem well. A 
Frameuser wrote me offline to suggest that ARTS PDF Split & Merge 
Lite would do the job by splitting at the bookmark level. Because I 
use two other ARTS plugins for PDFs, I have confidence in the 
company, so that is probably a good solution.

Carol

At 02:54 PM 4/27/2009, Art Campbell wrote:
>If I'm hearing you correctly, you have chapter level Frame files made
>up of small documents concatenated together. And you have a book
>containing a herd of these chapters. And you want to output the most
>finely-grained level as individual PDFs, right?



Frame-to-PDF mini-docs

2009-04-27 Thread Art Campbell
If I'm hearing you correctly, you have chapter level Frame files made
up of small documents concatenated together. And you have a book
containing a herd of these chapters. And you want to output the most
finely-grained level as individual PDFs, right?

If the small documents still exist as independent files, I'd think
about creating a meta-book containing those, and create
pseudo-chapters within the book file instead of using hard files. Then
just output to individual PDF files by selecting "Individual Files" on
the print dialog box.

Another way to go would be to upgrade to FM 9; I think the ability to
nest folders as sections would also let you do this.

Another route may exist through MIF2Go... I think you could set up an
export to MIF, RTF, or HTML that would create break points on your
DocTitle paratags. Generate a PDF of those files (probably using
Acrobat's watched folders), and you're good.

And yet another route would be to create a JavaScript in Acrobat, that
extracts sections based on your DocTitle tags... I think it's
possible, but I've only read the tip of the iceberg on this. There's
some info on the Acrobat web site on how to do this, but I believe the
capability is in Acrobat 9; maybe 8 too.

Good luck,
Art


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On Mon, Apr 27, 2009 at 4:29 PM, Carol J. Elkins
 wrote:
> Using Frame 7.0, AcrobatPro 7.0, Mif2Go. I have books consisting of
> chapters that contain several thousand individual documents. Each doc
> begins consistently with a paratag for the doc title so it is easy to
> define where a new doc starts. I've been asked to output individual
> PDFs of each document. I'll probably need to do this once every
> couple of years. The hard way would be to take the whole-book PDF and
> manually extract each document to an individual file. Is there an easier way?
>
> Carol
>
> **
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> Making Information Understandable
> Phone: 719-948-3773
> mailto:celkins at awrittenword.com
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Re: Frame-to-PDF mini-docs

2009-04-27 Thread Carol J. Elkins
Thanks Art and Jeremy. You definitely summed up my problem well. A 
Frameuser wrote me offline to suggest that ARTS PDF Split & Merge 
Lite would do the job by splitting at the bookmark level. Because I 
use two other ARTS plugins for PDFs, I have confidence in the 
company, so that is probably a good solution.

Carol

At 02:54 PM 4/27/2009, Art Campbell wrote:
>If I'm hearing you correctly, you have chapter level Frame files made
>up of small documents concatenated together. And you have a book
>containing a herd of these chapters. And you want to output the most
>finely-grained level as individual PDFs, right?

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Frame-to-PDF mini-docs

2009-04-27 Thread Linda G. Gallagher
Carol,

I've not actually done it recently, but the FM print window has a drop-down
list called Print Book As. I believe if you select Separate Print Job for
Each Document, you will get what you want. It would probably be best to
place the resulting .ps files in a watched folder, so Distiller will
automatically distill each one. 


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Subject: Frame-to-PDF mini-docs

Using Frame 7.0, AcrobatPro 7.0, Mif2Go. I have books consisting of 
chapters that contain several thousand individual documents. Each doc 
begins consistently with a paratag for the doc title so it is easy to 
define where a new doc starts. I've been asked to output individual 
PDFs of each document. I'll probably need to do this once every 
couple of years. The hard way would be to take the whole-book PDF and 
manually extract each document to an individual file. Is there an easier
way?

Carol

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Frame-to-PDF mini-docs

2009-04-27 Thread Carol J. Elkins
Using Frame 7.0, AcrobatPro 7.0, Mif2Go. I have books consisting of 
chapters that contain several thousand individual documents. Each doc 
begins consistently with a paratag for the doc title so it is easy to 
define where a new doc starts. I've been asked to output individual 
PDFs of each document. I'll probably need to do this once every 
couple of years. The hard way would be to take the whole-book PDF and 
manually extract each document to an individual file. Is there an easier way?

Carol

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Re: Frame-to-PDF mini-docs

2009-04-27 Thread Jeremy H. Griffith
On Mon, 27 Apr 2009 16:54:22 -0400, Art Campbell  
wrote:

>Another route may exist through MIF2Go... I think you could set up an
>export to MIF, RTF, or HTML that would create break points on your
>DocTitle paratags. Generate a PDF of those files (probably using
>Acrobat's watched folders), and you're good.

Mif2Go doesn't split up MIF or RTF outputs, only HTML/XML outputs.
So you would need to convert to, say, HTML, then make PDFs of the
HTML files, either directly (using Acrobat, if it can do that, or 
another tool that does that), or indirectly (importing the HTML 
files to Frame or Word, and making the PDFs from there).  The 
Mif2Go part is easy, but the next step may require scripting of
some sort (JS, VBA, FrameScript) to avoid a lot of manual work.

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Frame-to-PDF mini-docs

2009-04-27 Thread Jeremy H. Griffith
On Mon, 27 Apr 2009 16:54:22 -0400, Art Campbell  
wrote:

>Another route may exist through MIF2Go... I think you could set up an
>export to MIF, RTF, or HTML that would create break points on your
>DocTitle paratags. Generate a PDF of those files (probably using
>Acrobat's watched folders), and you're good.

Mif2Go doesn't split up MIF or RTF outputs, only HTML/XML outputs.
So you would need to convert to, say, HTML, then make PDFs of the
HTML files, either directly (using Acrobat, if it can do that, or 
another tool that does that), or indirectly (importing the HTML 
files to Frame or Word, and making the PDFs from there).  The 
Mif2Go part is easy, but the next step may require scripting of
some sort (JS, VBA, FrameScript) to avoid a lot of manual work.

-- Jeremy H. Griffith, at Omni Systems Inc.
http://www.omsys.com/


Re: Frame-to-PDF mini-docs

2009-04-27 Thread Art Campbell
If I'm hearing you correctly, you have chapter level Frame files made
up of small documents concatenated together. And you have a book
containing a herd of these chapters. And you want to output the most
finely-grained level as individual PDFs, right?

If the small documents still exist as independent files, I'd think
about creating a meta-book containing those, and create
pseudo-chapters within the book file instead of using hard files. Then
just output to individual PDF files by selecting "Individual Files" on
the print dialog box.

Another way to go would be to upgrade to FM 9; I think the ability to
nest folders as sections would also let you do this.

Another route may exist through MIF2Go... I think you could set up an
export to MIF, RTF, or HTML that would create break points on your
DocTitle paratags. Generate a PDF of those files (probably using
Acrobat's watched folders), and you're good.

And yet another route would be to create a JavaScript in Acrobat, that
extracts sections based on your DocTitle tags... I think it's
possible, but I've only read the tip of the iceberg on this. There's
some info on the Acrobat web site on how to do this, but I believe the
capability is in Acrobat 9; maybe 8 too.

Good luck,
Art


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On Mon, Apr 27, 2009 at 4:29 PM, Carol J. Elkins
 wrote:
> Using Frame 7.0, AcrobatPro 7.0, Mif2Go. I have books consisting of
> chapters that contain several thousand individual documents. Each doc
> begins consistently with a paratag for the doc title so it is easy to
> define where a new doc starts. I've been asked to output individual
> PDFs of each document. I'll probably need to do this once every
> couple of years. The hard way would be to take the whole-book PDF and
> manually extract each document to an individual file. Is there an easier way?
>
> Carol
>
> **
> Carol J. Elkins---A Written Word LLC
> Making Information Understandable
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> mailto:celk...@awrittenword.com
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RE: Frame-to-PDF mini-docs

2009-04-27 Thread Linda G. Gallagher
Carol,

I've not actually done it recently, but the FM print window has a drop-down
list called Print Book As. I believe if you select Separate Print Job for
Each Document, you will get what you want. It would probably be best to
place the resulting .ps files in a watched folder, so Distiller will
automatically distill each one. 


~
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TechCom Plus, LLC
lindag at techcomplus dot com
www.techcomplus.com
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To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Frame-to-PDF mini-docs

Using Frame 7.0, AcrobatPro 7.0, Mif2Go. I have books consisting of 
chapters that contain several thousand individual documents. Each doc 
begins consistently with a paratag for the doc title so it is easy to 
define where a new doc starts. I've been asked to output individual 
PDFs of each document. I'll probably need to do this once every 
couple of years. The hard way would be to take the whole-book PDF and 
manually extract each document to an individual file. Is there an easier
way?

Carol

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2009-04-27 Thread Carol J. Elkins
Using Frame 7.0, AcrobatPro 7.0, Mif2Go. I have books consisting of 
chapters that contain several thousand individual documents. Each doc 
begins consistently with a paratag for the doc title so it is easy to 
define where a new doc starts. I've been asked to output individual 
PDFs of each document. I'll probably need to do this once every 
couple of years. The hard way would be to take the whole-book PDF and 
manually extract each document to an individual file. Is there an easier way?

Carol

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