Frame Server experiences?
Hi Art... I've done a bit of work with the FDK in conjunction with Frame Server. This is in an XML environment where Frame generates a PDF from a book of XML files or just a single file. The plugin basically does all of the cleanup that would typically be done by people .. the PDFs generated by the system are final, no further tweaking is done. Basically, this is the type of thing that evolves over time, and will have different requirements based on the type of files you're processing. You set up the basic system, then when you see things that need to be tweaked, you add the appropriate code to the plugin. You could set up a limited system using one of the free Frame scripting tools available, but if you want to perform any sort of cleanup to the files, you'll need to use the FDK or FrameScript. If you do go the FDK route, you can drive it all from there (no need for the free scripting tools). You can use something like Miramo to drive the whole process and take advantage of the features that they offer, but even with that option, you may need to add some FDK/FrameScript to get things exactly as you want. I think it really comes down to what type of data you're processing, how flexible you are on the quality of the output, and how much money you're willing to spend. ...scott Scott Prentice Leximation, Inc. www.leximation.com On Jan 22, 2007, at 6:17 AM, Art Campbell wrote: > Hi Rick, > > Yeah, I'm pretty comfortable with the FM integration; I was actually > looking/asking for feedback on experiences with using "FrameScript, > Frame Developers Kit, Miramo, Patternstream, etc." to drive the > project... > > As with most things Frame, there seems to be half a dozen ways to get > from here to there, with different amounts of scenic routes, highway, > and different waypoints. ;- ) > > Art > > On 1/22/07, Rick Quatro wrote: >> Hi Art, >> >> As Max said, Frame Server is no different from desktop FrameMaker >> except for >> the license agreement. Any integration you can do with desktop >> FrameMaker >> can be done with Frame Server, including FrameScript, Frame >> Developers Kit, >> Miramo, Patternstream, etc. >> >> Rick Quatro >> Carmen Publishing >> 585-659-8267 >> www.frameexpert.com >> >> >> > Looking at using Frame Server to automate pagination and >> production of >> > boilerplate text that pretty much fills one page of a two-page >> > instruction sheet that's packaged with different parts; content >> varies >> > depending on part number. >> > >> > The second page would be manually produced. >> > >> > Output to .pdf. >> > >> > At the moment, there's no back end to serve the boilerplate to >> FS, but >> > I understand most SQL databases will work. >> > >> > Any feedback on the plan or implementation would be valuable. >> > >> > Cheers, >> > Art >> >> > >
Re: Frame Server experiences?
Hi Art... I've done a bit of work with the FDK in conjunction with Frame Server. This is in an XML environment where Frame generates a PDF from a book of XML files or just a single file. The plugin basically does all of the cleanup that would typically be done by people .. the PDFs generated by the system are final, no further tweaking is done. Basically, this is the type of thing that evolves over time, and will have different requirements based on the type of files you're processing. You set up the basic system, then when you see things that need to be tweaked, you add the appropriate code to the plugin. You could set up a limited system using one of the free Frame scripting tools available, but if you want to perform any sort of cleanup to the files, you'll need to use the FDK or FrameScript. If you do go the FDK route, you can drive it all from there (no need for the free scripting tools). You can use something like Miramo to drive the whole process and take advantage of the features that they offer, but even with that option, you may need to add some FDK/FrameScript to get things exactly as you want. I think it really comes down to what type of data you're processing, how flexible you are on the quality of the output, and how much money you're willing to spend. ...scott Scott Prentice Leximation, Inc. www.leximation.com On Jan 22, 2007, at 6:17 AM, Art Campbell wrote: Hi Rick, Yeah, I'm pretty comfortable with the FM integration; I was actually looking/asking for feedback on experiences with using "FrameScript, Frame Developers Kit, Miramo, Patternstream, etc." to drive the project... As with most things Frame, there seems to be half a dozen ways to get from here to there, with different amounts of scenic routes, highway, and different waypoints. ;- ) Art On 1/22/07, Rick Quatro wrote: Hi Art, As Max said, Frame Server is no different from desktop FrameMaker except for the license agreement. Any integration you can do with desktop FrameMaker can be done with Frame Server, including FrameScript, Frame Developers Kit, Miramo, Patternstream, etc. Rick Quatro Carmen Publishing 585-659-8267 www.frameexpert.com > Looking at using Frame Server to automate pagination and production of > boilerplate text that pretty much fills one page of a two-page > instruction sheet that's packaged with different parts; content varies > depending on part number. > > The second page would be manually produced. > > Output to .pdf. > > At the moment, there's no back end to serve the boilerplate to FS, but > I understand most SQL databases will work. > > Any feedback on the plan or implementation would be valuable. > > Cheers, > Art ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Frame Server experiences?
Hi Rick, Yeah, I'm pretty comfortable with the FM integration; I was actually looking/asking for feedback on experiences with using "FrameScript, Frame Developers Kit, Miramo, Patternstream, etc." to drive the project... As with most things Frame, there seems to be half a dozen ways to get from here to there, with different amounts of scenic routes, highway, and different waypoints. ;- ) Art On 1/22/07, Rick Quatro wrote: > Hi Art, > > As Max said, Frame Server is no different from desktop FrameMaker except for > the license agreement. Any integration you can do with desktop FrameMaker > can be done with Frame Server, including FrameScript, Frame Developers Kit, > Miramo, Patternstream, etc. > > Rick Quatro > Carmen Publishing > 585-659-8267 > www.frameexpert.com > > > > Looking at using Frame Server to automate pagination and production of > > boilerplate text that pretty much fills one page of a two-page > > instruction sheet that's packaged with different parts; content varies > > depending on part number. > > > > The second page would be manually produced. > > > > Output to .pdf. > > > > At the moment, there's no back end to serve the boilerplate to FS, but > > I understand most SQL databases will work. > > > > Any feedback on the plan or implementation would be valuable. > > > > Cheers, > > Art > > -- Art Campbell art.campbell at gmail.com "... In my opinion, there's nothing in this world beats a '52 Vincent and a redheaded girl." -- Richard Thompson No disclaimers apply. DoD 358
Frame Server experiences?
Many people don't realize that there is no functional difference between FrameMaker and FrameMaker Server -- the only difference is a piece of paper in the box (the end-user license agreement). Essentially, if you are using FrameMaker as an automated rendering engine, FrameMaker Server is required. Your plan is sound, but feel free to prototype/test with FrameMaker and the FDK or FrameScript for the automated components. -Alan Art Campbell wrote: > Looking at using Frame Server to automate pagination and production of > boilerplate text that pretty much fills one page of a two-page > instruction sheet that's packaged with different parts; content varies > depending on part number. > > The second page would be manually produced. > > Output to .pdf. > > At the moment, there's no back end to serve the boilerplate to FS, but > I understand most SQL databases will work. > > Any feedback on the plan or implementation would be valuable. > > Cheers, > Art > -- Alan Houser, President Group Wellesley, Inc. 412-363-3481 www.groupwellesley.com
Frame Server experiences?
Hi Art, As Max said, Frame Server is no different from desktop FrameMaker except for the license agreement. Any integration you can do with desktop FrameMaker can be done with Frame Server, including FrameScript, Frame Developers Kit, Miramo, Patternstream, etc. Rick Quatro Carmen Publishing 585-659-8267 www.frameexpert.com > Looking at using Frame Server to automate pagination and production of > boilerplate text that pretty much fills one page of a two-page > instruction sheet that's packaged with different parts; content varies > depending on part number. > > The second page would be manually produced. > > Output to .pdf. > > At the moment, there's no back end to serve the boilerplate to FS, but > I understand most SQL databases will work. > > Any feedback on the plan or implementation would be valuable. > > Cheers, > Art
Frame Server experiences?
Looking at using Frame Server to automate pagination and production of boilerplate text that pretty much fills one page of a two-page instruction sheet that's packaged with different parts; content varies depending on part number. The second page would be manually produced. Output to .pdf. At the moment, there's no back end to serve the boilerplate to FS, but I understand most SQL databases will work. Any feedback on the plan or implementation would be valuable. Cheers, Art -- Art Campbell art.campbell at gmail.com "... In my opinion, there's nothing in this world beats a '52 Vincent and a redheaded girl." -- Richard Thompson No disclaimers apply. DoD 358
Re: Frame Server experiences?
Hi Rick, Yeah, I'm pretty comfortable with the FM integration; I was actually looking/asking for feedback on experiences with using "FrameScript, Frame Developers Kit, Miramo, Patternstream, etc." to drive the project... As with most things Frame, there seems to be half a dozen ways to get from here to there, with different amounts of scenic routes, highway, and different waypoints. ;- ) Art On 1/22/07, Rick Quatro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hi Art, As Max said, Frame Server is no different from desktop FrameMaker except for the license agreement. Any integration you can do with desktop FrameMaker can be done with Frame Server, including FrameScript, Frame Developers Kit, Miramo, Patternstream, etc. Rick Quatro Carmen Publishing 585-659-8267 www.frameexpert.com > Looking at using Frame Server to automate pagination and production of > boilerplate text that pretty much fills one page of a two-page > instruction sheet that's packaged with different parts; content varies > depending on part number. > > The second page would be manually produced. > > Output to .pdf. > > At the moment, there's no back end to serve the boilerplate to FS, but > I understand most SQL databases will work. > > Any feedback on the plan or implementation would be valuable. > > Cheers, > Art -- Art Campbell [EMAIL PROTECTED] "... In my opinion, there's nothing in this world beats a '52 Vincent and a redheaded girl." -- Richard Thompson No disclaimers apply. DoD 358 ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Frame Server experiences?
Many people don't realize that there is no functional difference between FrameMaker and FrameMaker Server -- the only difference is a piece of paper in the box (the end-user license agreement). Essentially, if you are using FrameMaker as an automated rendering engine, FrameMaker Server is required. Your plan is sound, but feel free to prototype/test with FrameMaker and the FDK or FrameScript for the automated components. -Alan Art Campbell wrote: Looking at using Frame Server to automate pagination and production of boilerplate text that pretty much fills one page of a two-page instruction sheet that's packaged with different parts; content varies depending on part number. The second page would be manually produced. Output to .pdf. At the moment, there's no back end to serve the boilerplate to FS, but I understand most SQL databases will work. Any feedback on the plan or implementation would be valuable. Cheers, Art -- Alan Houser, President Group Wellesley, Inc. 412-363-3481 www.groupwellesley.com ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Frame Server experiences?
Hi Art, As Max said, Frame Server is no different from desktop FrameMaker except for the license agreement. Any integration you can do with desktop FrameMaker can be done with Frame Server, including FrameScript, Frame Developers Kit, Miramo, Patternstream, etc. Rick Quatro Carmen Publishing 585-659-8267 www.frameexpert.com Looking at using Frame Server to automate pagination and production of boilerplate text that pretty much fills one page of a two-page instruction sheet that's packaged with different parts; content varies depending on part number. The second page would be manually produced. Output to .pdf. At the moment, there's no back end to serve the boilerplate to FS, but I understand most SQL databases will work. Any feedback on the plan or implementation would be valuable. Cheers, Art ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Frame Server experiences?
> Any feedback on the plan or implementation would be valuable. Frame Server is literally FrameMaker, the same exact program, running in a server environment, at this point. DZBatcher, http://www.datazone.com/dzbatcher2.html is one way you can run Frame in a batch or server mode. Hopefully future versions of Frame Server will provide more of a true server implementation. There are many ways to flow data into Frame templates: Miramo works well, in my experience, but is additional cost to the Frame server license. Thanks, Max IMPORTANT NOTICE: This communication, including any attachment, contains information that may be confidential or privileged, and is intended solely for the entity or individual to whom it is addressed. If you are not the intended recipient, you should delete this message and are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, or distribution of this message is strictly prohibited. Nothing in this email, including any attachment, is intended to be a legally binding signature. If you have received this information in error, please immediately notify the sender by telephone or return e-mail and delete this information from your mailbox. Thank you. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Frame Server experiences?
> Any feedback on the plan or implementation would be valuable. Frame Server is literally FrameMaker, the same exact program, running in a server environment, at this point. DZBatcher, http://www.datazone.com/dzbatcher2.html is one way you can run Frame in a batch or server mode. Hopefully future versions of Frame Server will provide more of a true server implementation. There are many ways to flow data into Frame templates: Miramo works well, in my experience, but is additional cost to the Frame server license. Thanks, Max IMPORTANT NOTICE: This communication, including any attachment, contains information that may be confidential or privileged, and is intended solely for the entity or individual to whom it is addressed. If you are not the intended recipient, you should delete this message and are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, or distribution of this message is strictly prohibited. Nothing in this email, including any attachment, is intended to be a legally binding signature. If you have received this information in error, please immediately notify the sender by telephone or return e-mail and delete this information from your mailbox. Thank you.
Frame Server experiences?
Looking at using Frame Server to automate pagination and production of boilerplate text that pretty much fills one page of a two-page instruction sheet that's packaged with different parts; content varies depending on part number. The second page would be manually produced. Output to .pdf. At the moment, there's no back end to serve the boilerplate to FS, but I understand most SQL databases will work. Any feedback on the plan or implementation would be valuable. Cheers, Art -- Art Campbell [EMAIL PROTECTED] "... In my opinion, there's nothing in this world beats a '52 Vincent and a redheaded girl." -- Richard Thompson No disclaimers apply. DoD 358 ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
