Re: Framemaker to PDF - Linking Problem

2007-07-10 Thread Doug

If you don't have the book file open, FrameMaker creates PDF links to the
PDF files named after the file (that is, it creates links to file_name.pdf
rather than to book_name.pdf).  This makes sense.  After all, FrameMaker has
no way of knowing which book the file belongs to if the book is not open.
I'm not sure what happens if you have two different books open that
reference the same file.

On 7/10/07, Art Campbell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Well, since no one else has responded... yes, for the links to work,
you do need to have all the destination files open when you build the
book PDF. However, I don't know _why_. I suspect it's because FM
passes specific (a named location) location info into Acrobat that is
somehow checked for validity, but I don't _know_ that.

Cheers,
Art

On 7/10/07, Amy Harvey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi,

 We work on large sets of documentation that require links between
various Chapters, Sections, Books, etc.
 Our final deliverables are in PDF format.

 When creating the PDF file for a specific book, we have found that for
some reason, we need to open ALL of the other book files that are linked to
the current book in order for the links to work.

 For example, if I'm printing the PDF for Section 5.3 book, and it
contains links to sections 2.3 and 7.8, we need to open the book files for
2.3 and 7.8 to print or sometimes the links don't work.

 An example of the link verbage we are using in the marker is:
 gotolink ../CHAP02/ER_SEC02_03.fm:sec231

 Is this typical ?Since they are relative links, I really don't
understand why Framemaker would require all of the linked files to be open
when creating the book.

 And... it only doesn't work sometimes

 Any thoughts?

 Amy Harvey
 Enercon Service, Inc.











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Framemaker to PDF - Linking Problem

2007-07-10 Thread Amy Harvey
Thanks to all for your answers!  

Doug ... so in other words, in the following example:

"gotolink ../CHAP02/ER_SEC02_03.fm:sec231"   (Where sec231 is a newlink marker 
in that document...)

Frame would creake a link in the pdf file to a file named:  "ER_SEC02_03.pdf "?

Would it do anything with the newlink marker (would it try to find that marker 
in the document for the exact link location?... ie - would it create the link 
to the newlink marker "sec231" within the ER_SEC02_03.pdf  ?)

-Amy



 On Tue Jul 10 16:14 , Doug  sent:

>If you don't have the book file open, FrameMaker creates PDF links to the PDF 
>files named after the file (that is, it creates links to?file_name.pdf rather 
>than to book_name.pdf).? This makes sense.? After all, FrameMaker has no way 
>of knowing which book the file belongs to if the book is not open.? I'm not 
>sure what happens if you have two different books open that reference the same 
>file.
>
>
>
>On 7/10/07, Art Campbell  wrote:
>Well, since no one else has responded... yes, for the links to work,
>you do need to have all the destination files open when you build the
>
>book PDF. However, I don't know _why_. I suspect it's because FM
>passes specific (a named location) location info into Acrobat that is
>somehow checked for validity, but I don't _know_ that.
>
>Cheers,
>
>Art
>
>On 7/10/07, Amy Harvey  wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> We work on large sets of documentation that require links between various 
>> Chapters, Sections, Books, etc.
>
>> Our final deliverables are in PDF format.
>>
>> When creating the PDF file for a specific book, we have found that for some 
>> reason, we need to open ALL of the other book files that are linked to the 
>> current book in order for the links to work.
>
>>
>> For example, if I'm printing the PDF for Section 5.3 book, and it contains 
>> links to sections 2.3 and 7.8, we need to open the book files for 2.3 and 
>> 7.8 to print or sometimes the links don't work.
>
>>
>> An example of the link verbage we are using in the marker is:
>> gotolink ../CHAP02/ER_SEC02_03.fm:sec231
>>
>> Is this typical ?Since they are relative links, I really don't 
>> understand why Framemaker would require all of the linked files to be open 
>> when creating the book.
>
>>
>> And... it only doesn't work "sometimes"
>>
>> Any thoughts?
>>
>> Amy Harvey
>> Enercon Service, Inc.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>>
>>
>>
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Framemaker to PDF - Linking Problem

2007-07-10 Thread Doug
Yes, that's what it would do.  If you create the file-specific PDF file, any
newlink markers defined in FM should be defined in the PDF file.

You have to be careful about your files' directories when you do this.  If
your files are in separate directories, the links will expect the PDF files
to be in separate directories, too -- directories that mimic your source
directory structure.  This probably isn't what you want.  To get around all
this, I generally create a production-specific directory, and create
production-specific books (which can reference the working files).  Then,
you simply open up all those books, and create the PDF files.


On 7/10/07, Amy Harvey  wrote:
>
> Thanks to all for your answers!
>
> Doug ... so in other words, in the following example:
>
> "gotolink ../CHAP02/ER_SEC02_03.fm:sec231"   (Where sec231 is a newlink
> marker in that document...)
>
> Frame would creake a link in the pdf file to a file
> named:  "ER_SEC02_03.pdf "?
>
> Would it do anything with the newlink marker (would it try to find that
> marker in the document for the exact link location?... ie - would it create
> the link to the newlink marker "sec231" within the ER_SEC02_03.pdf  ?)
>
> -Amy
>
>
>
> On Tue Jul 10 16:14 , Doug  sent:
>
> >If you don't have the book file open, FrameMaker creates PDF links to the
> PDF files named after the file (that is, it creates links tofile_name.pdf
> rather than to book_name.pdf). This makes sense. After all, FrameMaker has
> no way of knowing which book the file belongs to if the book is not open.
> I'm not sure what happens if you have two different books open that
> reference the same file.
> >
> >
> >
> >On 7/10/07, Art Campbell  wrote:
> >Well, since no one else has responded... yes, for the links to work,
> >you do need to have all the destination files open when you build the
> >
> >book PDF. However, I don't know _why_. I suspect it's because FM
> >passes specific (a named location) location info into Acrobat that is
> >somehow checked for validity, but I don't _know_ that.
> >
> >Cheers,
> >
> >Art
> >
> >On 7/10/07, Amy Harvey  wrote:
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> We work on large sets of documentation that require links between
> various Chapters, Sections, Books, etc.
> >
> >> Our final deliverables are in PDF format.
> >>
> >> When creating the PDF file for a specific book, we have found that for
> some reason, we need to open ALL of the other book files that are linked to
> the current book in order for the links to work.
> >
> >>
> >> For example, if I'm printing the PDF for Section 5.3 book, and it
> contains links to sections 2.3 and 7.8, we need to open the book files for
> 2.3 and 7.8 to print or sometimes the links don't work.
> >
> >>
> >> An example of the link verbage we are using in the marker is:
> >> gotolink ../CHAP02/ER_SEC02_03.fm:sec231
> >>
> >> Is this typical ?Since they are relative links, I really don't
> understand why Framemaker would require all of the linked files to be open
> when creating the book.
> >
> >>
> >> And... it only doesn't work "sometimes"
> >>
> >> Any thoughts?
> >>
> >> Amy Harvey
> >> Enercon Service, Inc.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
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> >
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Framemaker to PDF - Linking Problem

2007-07-10 Thread Amy Harvey
Hi,

We work on large sets of documentation that require links between various 
Chapters, Sections, Books, etc.
Our final deliverables are in PDF format.

When creating the PDF file for a specific book, we have found that for some 
reason, we need to open ALL of the other book files that are linked to the 
current book in order for the links to work.

For example, if I'm printing the PDF for Section 5.3 book, and it contains 
links to sections 2.3 and 7.8, we need to open the book files for 2.3 and 7.8 
to print or sometimes the links don't work.

An example of the link verbage we are using in the marker is:
gotolink ../CHAP02/ER_SEC02_03.fm:sec231

Is this typical ?Since they are relative links, I really don't understand 
why Framemaker would require all of the linked files to be open when creating 
the book.

And... it only doesn't work "sometimes"

Any thoughts?

Amy Harvey
Enercon Service, Inc.














Framemaker to PDF - Linking Problem

2007-07-10 Thread Art Campbell
Well, since no one else has responded... yes, for the links to work,
you do need to have all the destination files open when you build the
book PDF. However, I don't know _why_. I suspect it's because FM
passes specific (a named location) location info into Acrobat that is
somehow checked for validity, but I don't _know_ that.

Cheers,
Art

On 7/10/07, Amy Harvey  wrote:
> Hi,
>
> We work on large sets of documentation that require links between various 
> Chapters, Sections, Books, etc.
> Our final deliverables are in PDF format.
>
> When creating the PDF file for a specific book, we have found that for some 
> reason, we need to open ALL of the other book files that are linked to the 
> current book in order for the links to work.
>
> For example, if I'm printing the PDF for Section 5.3 book, and it contains 
> links to sections 2.3 and 7.8, we need to open the book files for 2.3 and 7.8 
> to print or sometimes the links don't work.
>
> An example of the link verbage we are using in the marker is:
> gotolink ../CHAP02/ER_SEC02_03.fm:sec231
>
> Is this typical ?Since they are relative links, I really don't understand 
> why Framemaker would require all of the linked files to be open when creating 
> the book.
>
> And... it only doesn't work "sometimes"
>
> Any thoughts?
>
> Amy Harvey
> Enercon Service, Inc.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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Framemaker to PDF - Linking Problem

2007-07-10 Thread Doug
If you don't have the book file open, FrameMaker creates PDF links to the
PDF files named after the file (that is, it creates links to file_name.pdf
rather than to book_name.pdf).  This makes sense.  After all, FrameMaker has
no way of knowing which book the file belongs to if the book is not open.
I'm not sure what happens if you have two different books open that
reference the same file.

On 7/10/07, Art Campbell  wrote:
>
> Well, since no one else has responded... yes, for the links to work,
> you do need to have all the destination files open when you build the
> book PDF. However, I don't know _why_. I suspect it's because FM
> passes specific (a named location) location info into Acrobat that is
> somehow checked for validity, but I don't _know_ that.
>
> Cheers,
> Art
>
> On 7/10/07, Amy Harvey  wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > We work on large sets of documentation that require links between
> various Chapters, Sections, Books, etc.
> > Our final deliverables are in PDF format.
> >
> > When creating the PDF file for a specific book, we have found that for
> some reason, we need to open ALL of the other book files that are linked to
> the current book in order for the links to work.
> >
> > For example, if I'm printing the PDF for Section 5.3 book, and it
> contains links to sections 2.3 and 7.8, we need to open the book files for
> 2.3 and 7.8 to print or sometimes the links don't work.
> >
> > An example of the link verbage we are using in the marker is:
> > gotolink ../CHAP02/ER_SEC02_03.fm:sec231
> >
> > Is this typical ?Since they are relative links, I really don't
> understand why Framemaker would require all of the linked files to be open
> when creating the book.
> >
> > And... it only doesn't work "sometimes"
> >
> > Any thoughts?
> >
> > Amy Harvey
> > Enercon Service, Inc.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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>
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