How to de-select Cross-references
Nandini, Why don't you get a copy of Bruce Foster's Archive plug in, run it on your original book and use the files that the program includes in the archive directory. http://home.comcast.net/~bruce.foster/products.htm Art On 5/22/06, Nandini Garud wrote: > Dear Framers, > > Because there were too many versions of the book files in the folder > "Old-New" on the network drive F, we created a new folder "CD5 Book Files" > on the same network drive F and transferred the latest copies and the book > to that folder. As Frame started looking for the graphics in the old folder, > (duh!) we transferred the graphics folder there as well. > > Now the cross-references (about 100 of them altogether) look to the files in > the "Old-New" folder instead of the files in the new "CD5 Book Files". When > I go into Edit "update references" and choose the new folder "CD5 Book > Files" It works for the files outside the current chapter, but for the > current chapter, I have to go inside the file and choose the cross-reference > and update it again. These are correct x-references, but the format for the > cross-reference comes up as for chapter 4, although the reference is to > chapter 5, 6, 3... > > After updating, when I check the reference, it's the same problem all over > again. > > Would it help to move the book to the "Old-New folder?" We saved it under > "CD5 Old Book Files." > > After I chose "save every 5 minutes" in the preferences, "auto" copies have > been created for the files I updated. FrameMaker prompts me whether I want > to use those files as the latest saves may be there. Is this why my > cross-reference are not taking effect? When I selected edit > update > references from the files, I am directed to the file with the .auto > extension. > > Should I delete the auto files and save the original files? Will the > cross-references work then and remain working? > > Sorry for a detailed question. > > Nandini > > > > ___ > > > You are currently subscribed to Framers as art.campbell at gmail.com. > > Send list messages to framers at lists.frameusers.com. > > To unsubscribe send a blank email to > framers-unsubscribe at lists.frameusers.com > or visit > http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/art.campbell%40gmail.com > > Send administrative questions to lisa at frameusers.com. Visit > http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. > -- Art Campbell art.campbell at gmail.com "... In my opinion, there's nothing in this world beats a '52 Vincent and a redheaded girl." -- Richard Thompson No disclaimers apply. DoD 358
How to de-select Cross-references
Using FrameMaker 7.2, unstructured. This is how the files were transferred to the new location: 1. In Windows, 2000, from the "My computer" icon on the desktop, clicked and went to the F (network) folder. The files were in CD5 folder > CDNewOldFolder. The graphics and book files and the book were in this folder. (Additional versions of book files were here. So to avoid confusion, the following steps were taken by a dear friend. The agony of move...) 2. Created a new folder "CD5 User Guide Files" outside the CDNewOldFolder folder in the F Folder (directly under the F folder) 3. From CD CD5NewOld folder, selected the files that were part of the book and the book file, and moved it to the new folder. Now the files in the new folder in which I am working and making changes to the files point to the old files in the cross references. After changing all the references to the new folder, no more broken cross-reference show. Should I expect the cross references I add from now on to behave or start to breaking to the old folder? Resolution with your kind feedback: 1. Backup all folders to a CD. 2. Delete the old folder saved under "old files" folder. 3. rename the new folder to the old name CDNewOldFolder, keep the graphics files this folder as they are. Other small problems: 1. I kept the same names the files were save under in version 4.0 about four years ago. Re-naming them while the book is open should be okay, right? Will try it when all other problems are over. 2. One of the cross-references came up under the code name "bumble bees" for a chapter name! Thank you. I think I am on the right track by saving the book under the original folder name. Nandini -Original Message- From: Ridder, Fred [mailto:fred.rid...@intel.com] Sent: Monday, May 22, 2006 2:35 PM To: Nandini Garud Subject: RE: How to de-select Cross-references I find myself asking once again, "How did you transfer the files to the new location?" Was it from FrameMaker using Save As? Or did you do it from Windows? And if you did it from Windows, what method did you use? The behavior is *totally* different if you do this kind of operation from FrameMaker vs. from Windows, and there may be differences between different Windows mechanisms as well. Also, were the component files (e.g. chapters) in the same directory as the corresponding .book files? If not, that may be the root of your problem. The bottom line may be that the simplest way to fix your problem is to forget about the existing .book files and simply build new ones that reference the relocated component files. This should literally be no more than 10 minutes effort for each book. If it were I, I'd try this right now on one book that you know has issues to see if it's a workable solution. My opinions only; I don't speak for Intel. Fred Ridder (fred dot ridder at intel dot com) Intel Parsippany, NJ -Original Message- From: framers-bounces+fred.ridder=intel@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-bounces+fred.ridder=intel.com at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Nandini Garud Sent: Monday, May 22, 2006 5:03 PM To: arobotti at journalregister.com Cc: framers at frameusers.com Subject: How to de-select Cross-references Dear Framers, Because there were too many versions of the book files in the folder "Old-New" on the network drive F, we created a new folder "CD5 Book Files" on the same network drive F and transferred the latest copies and the book to that folder. As Frame started looking for the graphics in the old folder, (duh!) we transferred the graphics folder there as well. Now the cross-references (about 100 of them altogether) look to the files in the "Old-New" folder instead of the files in the new "CD5 Book Files". When I go into Edit "update references" and choose the new folder "CD5 Book Files" It works for the files outside the current chapter, but for the current chapter, I have to go inside the file and choose the cross-reference and update it again. These are correct x-references, but the format for the cross-reference comes up as for chapter 4, although the reference is to chapter 5, 6, 3... After updating, when I check the reference, it's the same problem all over again. Would it help to move the book to the "Old-New folder?" We saved it under "CD5 Old Book Files." After I chose "save every 5 minutes" in the preferences, "auto" copies have been created for the files I updated. FrameMaker prompts me whether I want to use those files as the latest saves may be there. Is this why my cross-reference are not taking effect? When I selected edit > update references from the files, I am directed to the file with the .auto extension. Should I delete the auto files and save the original files? Will the cross-references work then and remain working? Sorry for a detailed question. Nandini ___
RE: How to de-select Cross-references
Using FrameMaker 7.2, unstructured. This is how the files were transferred to the new location: 1. In Windows, 2000, from the "My computer" icon on the desktop, clicked and went to the F (network) folder. The files were in CD5 folder > CDNewOldFolder. The graphics and book files and the book were in this folder. (Additional versions of book files were here. So to avoid confusion, the following steps were taken by a dear friend. The agony of move...) 2. Created a new folder "CD5 User Guide Files" outside the CDNewOldFolder folder in the F Folder (directly under the F folder) 3. From CD CD5NewOld folder, selected the files that were part of the book and the book file, and moved it to the new folder. Now the files in the new folder in which I am working and making changes to the files point to the old files in the cross references. After changing all the references to the new folder, no more broken cross-reference show. Should I expect the cross references I add from now on to behave or start to breaking to the old folder? Resolution with your kind feedback: 1. Backup all folders to a CD. 2. Delete the old folder saved under "old files" folder. 3. rename the new folder to the old name CDNewOldFolder, keep the graphics files this folder as they are. Other small problems: 1. I kept the same names the files were save under in version 4.0 about four years ago. Re-naming them while the book is open should be okay, right? Will try it when all other problems are over. 2. One of the cross-references came up under the code name "bumble bees" for a chapter name! Thank you. I think I am on the right track by saving the book under the original folder name. Nandini -Original Message- From: Ridder, Fred [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, May 22, 2006 2:35 PM To: Nandini Garud Subject: RE: How to de-select Cross-references I find myself asking once again, "How did you transfer the files to the new location?" Was it from FrameMaker using Save As? Or did you do it from Windows? And if you did it from Windows, what method did you use? The behavior is *totally* different if you do this kind of operation from FrameMaker vs. from Windows, and there may be differences between different Windows mechanisms as well. Also, were the component files (e.g. chapters) in the same directory as the corresponding .book files? If not, that may be the root of your problem. The bottom line may be that the simplest way to fix your problem is to forget about the existing .book files and simply build new ones that reference the relocated component files. This should literally be no more than 10 minutes effort for each book. If it were I, I'd try this right now on one book that you know has issues to see if it's a workable solution. My opinions only; I don't speak for Intel. Fred Ridder (fred dot ridder at intel dot com) Intel Parsippany, NJ -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Nandini Garud Sent: Monday, May 22, 2006 5:03 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: framers@frameusers.com Subject: How to de-select Cross-references Dear Framers, Because there were too many versions of the book files in the folder "Old-New" on the network drive F, we created a new folder "CD5 Book Files" on the same network drive F and transferred the latest copies and the book to that folder. As Frame started looking for the graphics in the old folder, (duh!) we transferred the graphics folder there as well. Now the cross-references (about 100 of them altogether) look to the files in the "Old-New" folder instead of the files in the new "CD5 Book Files". When I go into Edit "update references" and choose the new folder "CD5 Book Files" It works for the files outside the current chapter, but for the current chapter, I have to go inside the file and choose the cross-reference and update it again. These are correct x-references, but the format for the cross-reference comes up as for chapter 4, although the reference is to chapter 5, 6, 3... After updating, when I check the reference, it's the same problem all over again. Would it help to move the book to the "Old-New folder?" We saved it under "CD5 Old Book Files." After I chose "save every 5 minutes" in the preferences, "auto" copies have been created for the files I updated. FrameMaker prompts me whether I want to use those files as the latest saves may be there. Is this why my cross-reference are not taking effect? When I selected edit > update references from the files, I am directed to the file with the .auto extension. Should I delete the auto files and save the original files? Will the cross-references work then and remain working? Sorry for a detailed question. Nandini ___ ___
Re: How to de-select Cross-references
Nandini, Why don't you get a copy of Bruce Foster's Archive plug in, run it on your original book and use the files that the program includes in the archive directory. http://home.comcast.net/~bruce.foster/products.htm Art On 5/22/06, Nandini Garud <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Dear Framers, Because there were too many versions of the book files in the folder "Old-New" on the network drive F, we created a new folder "CD5 Book Files" on the same network drive F and transferred the latest copies and the book to that folder. As Frame started looking for the graphics in the old folder, (duh!) we transferred the graphics folder there as well. Now the cross-references (about 100 of them altogether) look to the files in the "Old-New" folder instead of the files in the new "CD5 Book Files". When I go into Edit "update references" and choose the new folder "CD5 Book Files" It works for the files outside the current chapter, but for the current chapter, I have to go inside the file and choose the cross-reference and update it again. These are correct x-references, but the format for the cross-reference comes up as for chapter 4, although the reference is to chapter 5, 6, 3... After updating, when I check the reference, it's the same problem all over again. Would it help to move the book to the "Old-New folder?" We saved it under "CD5 Old Book Files." After I chose "save every 5 minutes" in the preferences, "auto" copies have been created for the files I updated. FrameMaker prompts me whether I want to use those files as the latest saves may be there. Is this why my cross-reference are not taking effect? When I selected edit > update references from the files, I am directed to the file with the .auto extension. Should I delete the auto files and save the original files? Will the cross-references work then and remain working? Sorry for a detailed question. Nandini ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/art.campbell%40gmail.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. -- Art Campbell [EMAIL PROTECTED] "... In my opinion, there's nothing in this world beats a '52 Vincent and a redheaded girl." -- Richard Thompson No disclaimers apply. DoD 358 ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
How to de-select Cross-references
Dear Framers, Because there were too many versions of the book files in the folder "Old-New" on the network drive F, we created a new folder "CD5 Book Files" on the same network drive F and transferred the latest copies and the book to that folder. As Frame started looking for the graphics in the old folder, (duh!) we transferred the graphics folder there as well. Now the cross-references (about 100 of them altogether) look to the files in the "Old-New" folder instead of the files in the new "CD5 Book Files". When I go into Edit "update references" and choose the new folder "CD5 Book Files" It works for the files outside the current chapter, but for the current chapter, I have to go inside the file and choose the cross-reference and update it again. These are correct x-references, but the format for the cross-reference comes up as for chapter 4, although the reference is to chapter 5, 6, 3... After updating, when I check the reference, it's the same problem all over again. Would it help to move the book to the "Old-New folder?" We saved it under "CD5 Old Book Files." After I chose "save every 5 minutes" in the preferences, "auto" copies have been created for the files I updated. FrameMaker prompts me whether I want to use those files as the latest saves may be there. Is this why my cross-reference are not taking effect? When I selected edit > update references from the files, I am directed to the file with the .auto extension. Should I delete the auto files and save the original files? Will the cross-references work then and remain working? Sorry for a detailed question. Nandini
How to de-select Cross-references
Dear Framers, Because there were too many versions of the book files in the folder "Old-New" on the network drive F, we created a new folder "CD5 Book Files" on the same network drive F and transferred the latest copies and the book to that folder. As Frame started looking for the graphics in the old folder, (duh!) we transferred the graphics folder there as well. Now the cross-references (about 100 of them altogether) look to the files in the "Old-New" folder instead of the files in the new "CD5 Book Files". When I go into Edit "update references" and choose the new folder "CD5 Book Files" It works for the files outside the current chapter, but for the current chapter, I have to go inside the file and choose the cross-reference and update it again. These are correct x-references, but the format for the cross-reference comes up as for chapter 4, although the reference is to chapter 5, 6, 3... After updating, when I check the reference, it's the same problem all over again. Would it help to move the book to the "Old-New folder?" We saved it under "CD5 Old Book Files." After I chose "save every 5 minutes" in the preferences, "auto" copies have been created for the files I updated. FrameMaker prompts me whether I want to use those files as the latest saves may be there. Is this why my cross-reference are not taking effect? When I selected edit > update references from the files, I am directed to the file with the .auto extension. Should I delete the auto files and save the original files? Will the cross-references work then and remain working? Sorry for a detailed question. Nandini ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.