Re: Imported text

2013-04-23 Thread Shmuel Wolfson
I use text insets for several items that are reused in more than one 
book. I keep all the text insets in a central location in a folder 
called Shared.


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On 22-Apr-13 9:04 PM, meg miranda wrote:

Hi all,

I just wanted to see how common it is to use imported text files in 
Frame books.


Do you use this Frame feature?
If so, do you use it to reuse or share text?

Example---this tends to be my go to solution for copyright text in doc 
sets.  So we can have one file with the text from legal and then we 
can import it into the cover page of all 20 of our books.


thanks,
meg


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Re: Imported text

2013-04-23 Thread John Sgammato
That's how I do it. I always use text insets for copyright and contact
info, and very seldom for anything else.


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 Hi all,

 I just wanted to see how common it is to use imported text files in Frame
 books.

 Do you use this Frame feature?
 If so, do you use it to reuse or share text?

 Example---this tends to be my go to solution for copyright text in doc
 sets.  So we can have one file with the text from legal and then we can
 import it into the cover page of all 20 of our books.

 thanks,
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Re: Imported text

2013-04-23 Thread Robert Lauriston
I use insets (File  Import  File  Import By Reference) for
copyright and other boilerplate.

I generally use .fm files for that. I use .txt for the browser support
boilerplate, though I can't remember why (it's a workaround for some
problem I encountered).

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 Example---this tends to be my go to solution for copyright text in doc sets.
 So we can have one file with the text from legal and then we can import it
 into the cover page of all 20 of our books.
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RE: Imported text

2013-04-23 Thread Harro de Jong
meg miranda wrote:

 
 I just wanted to see how common it is to use imported text files in Frame 
 books.
 
 Do you use this Frame feature?
 If so, do you use it to reuse or share text?
 
 Example---this tends to be my go to solution for copyright text in doc sets.  
 So we
 can have one file with the text from legal and then we can import it into the 
 cover
 page of all 20 of our books.

Text insets are very common. I usually create text insets for all common files 
in a book: Copyright, most of 'About this manual', safety, some Maintenance 
sections. 

Or did you mean actual .txt files? I've used those as well, to import loads of 
'screen shots' from an old DOS-based application.

Harro de Jong
Triview

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Re: Imported text

2013-04-23 Thread Steve Rickaby
At 11:04 -0700 22/4/13, meg miranda wrote:

I just wanted to see how common it is to use imported text files in Frame 
books.

Do you use this Frame feature?
If so, do you use it to reuse or share text?

In contrast to what others have posted, I work on textbooks mainly in Frame and 
the copyright info tends to change, so I don't use text imports for that. 
Perhaps the most common use for me is importing the author's software code 
examples. But now that I think about that, there's not a lot of advantage over 
copy-paste unless they get updated often.

Duplicated common text can also be handled using xrefs.

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RE: Imported text

2013-04-23 Thread Alison Craig
I write for a Medical Device company and repeated Warnings and Cautions are 
common - so I keep that text in file and import it as needed. It's much simpler 
to update a single Warning in the Inset file than to try to find every 
occurrence of that Warning within 20+ files.

It also saves on translation costs.

Alison 

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Subject: Re: Imported text

At 11:04 -0700 22/4/13, meg miranda wrote:

I just wanted to see how common it is to use imported text files in Frame 
books.

Do you use this Frame feature?
If so, do you use it to reuse or share text?

In contrast to what others have posted, I work on textbooks mainly in Frame and 
the copyright info tends to change, so I don't use text imports for that. 
Perhaps the most common use for me is importing the author's software code 
examples. But now that I think about that, there's not a lot of advantage over 
copy-paste unless they get updated often.

Duplicated common text can also be handled using xrefs.

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Re: Imported text

2013-04-23 Thread quills

meg miranda wrote:

Hi all,

I just wanted to see how common it is to use imported text files in
Frame books.

Do you use this Frame feature?
If so, do you use it to reuse or share text?

Example---this tends to be my go to solution for copyright text in doc
sets. So we can have one file with the text from legal and then we can
import it into the cover page of all 20 of our books.

thanks,
meg

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I use it for process steps. Since the high level process steps are a 
subset of the work instructions, I build the entire thing in one file, 
set conditional text for the Work instruction only part,  and then 
import by reference into the Work Instructions template, and into the 
SOP process file. The conditional text settings hides the detailed steps 
in the SOP, and displays them in the Work Instructions file.


It would be easier if it were DITA, but you can't have everything.

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Imported text

2013-04-23 Thread Shmuel Wolfson
I use text insets for several items that are reused in more than one 
book. I keep all the text insets in a central location in a folder 
called Shared.

Regards,
Shmuel Wolfson
Technical Writer
052-763-7133

On 22-Apr-13 9:04 PM, meg miranda wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> I just wanted to see how common it is to use imported text files in 
> Frame books.
>
> Do you use this Frame feature?
> If so, do you use it to reuse or share text?
>
> Example---this tends to be my go to solution for copyright text in doc 
> sets.  So we can have one file with the text from legal and then we 
> can import it into the cover page of all 20 of our books.
>
> thanks,
> meg
>
>
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Imported text

2013-04-23 Thread Harro de Jong
meg miranda wrote:

> 
> I just wanted to see how common it is to use imported text files in Frame 
> books.
> 
> Do you use this Frame feature?
> If so, do you use it to reuse or share text?
> 
> Example---this tends to be my go to solution for copyright text in doc sets.? 
> So we
> can have one file with the text from legal and then we can import it into the 
> cover
> page of all 20 of our books.

Text insets are very common. I usually create text insets for all common files 
in a book: Copyright, most of 'About this manual', safety, some Maintenance 
sections. 

Or did you mean actual .txt files? I've used those as well, to import loads of 
'screen shots' from an old DOS-based application.

Harro de Jong
Triview



Imported text

2013-04-23 Thread Steve Rickaby
At 11:04 -0700 22/4/13, meg miranda wrote:

>I just wanted to see how common it is to use imported text files in Frame 
>books.
>
>Do you use this Frame feature?
>If so, do you use it to reuse or share text?

In contrast to what others have posted, I work on textbooks mainly in Frame and 
the copyright info tends to change, so I don't use text imports for that. 
Perhaps the most common use for me is importing the author's software code 
examples. But now that I think about that, there's not a lot of advantage over 
copy-paste unless they get updated often.

Duplicated common text can also be handled using xrefs.

-- 
Steve [Trim e-mails: use less disk, use less power, use less planet]


Imported text

2013-04-23 Thread Alison Craig
I write for a Medical Device company and repeated Warnings and Cautions are 
common - so I keep that text in file and import it as needed. It's much simpler 
to update a single Warning in the Inset file than to try to find every 
occurrence of that Warning within 20+ files.

It also saves on translation costs.

Alison 

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Sent: Tuesday, April 23, 2013 4:34 AM
To: meg miranda; framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Re: Imported text

At 11:04 -0700 22/4/13, meg miranda wrote:

>I just wanted to see how common it is to use imported text files in Frame 
>books.
>
>Do you use this Frame feature?
>If so, do you use it to reuse or share text?

In contrast to what others have posted, I work on textbooks mainly in Frame and 
the copyright info tends to change, so I don't use text imports for that. 
Perhaps the most common use for me is importing the author's software code 
examples. But now that I think about that, there's not a lot of advantage over 
copy-paste unless they get updated often.

Duplicated common text can also be handled using xrefs.

--
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Imported text

2013-04-23 Thread qui...@airmail.net
meg miranda wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> I just wanted to see how common it is to use imported text files in
> Frame books.
>
> Do you use this Frame feature?
> If so, do you use it to reuse or share text?
>
> Example---this tends to be my go to solution for copyright text in doc
> sets. So we can have one file with the text from legal and then we can
> import it into the cover page of all 20 of our books.
>
> thanks,
> meg
>
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I use it for process steps. Since the high level process steps are a 
subset of the work instructions, I build the entire thing in one file, 
set conditional text for the Work instruction only part,  and then 
import by reference into the Work Instructions template, and into the 
SOP process file. The conditional text settings hides the detailed steps 
in the SOP, and displays them in the Work Instructions file.

It would be easier if it were DITA, but you can't have everything.

Scott


Imported text

2013-04-22 Thread meg miranda
Hi all,

I just wanted to see how common it is to use imported text files in Frame books.

Do you use this Frame feature?
If so, do you use it to reuse or share text?

Example---this tends to be my go to solution for copyright text in doc sets.  
So we can have one file with the text from legal and then we can import it into 
the cover page of all 20 of our books.

thanks,
meg
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Imported text

2013-04-22 Thread John Sgammato
That's how I do it. I always use text insets for copyright and contact
info, and very seldom for anything else.


On Mon, Apr 22, 2013 at 2:04 PM, meg miranda  wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> I just wanted to see how common it is to use imported text files in Frame
> books.
>
> Do you use this Frame feature?
> If so, do you use it to reuse or share text?
>
> Example---this tends to be my go to solution for copyright text in doc
> sets.  So we can have one file with the text from legal and then we can
> import it into the cover page of all 20 of our books.
>
> thanks,
> meg
>
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Imported text

2013-04-22 Thread Robert Lauriston
I use insets (File > Import > File > Import By Reference) for
copyright and other boilerplate.

I generally use .fm files for that. I use .txt for the browser support
boilerplate, though I can't remember why (it's a workaround for some
problem I encountered).

On Mon, Apr 22, 2013 at 11:04 AM, meg miranda  wrote:
> Example---this tends to be my go to solution for copyright text in doc sets.
> So we can have one file with the text from legal and then we can import it
> into the cover page of all 20 of our books.