Re: Line breaks and figure titles in structure

2006-01-05 Thread Steve Rickaby
At 12:15 pm -0500 5/1/06, Bernard Aschwanden wrote:

The easiest solution is to set up the EDD to support everything...

In the EDD define something like this:

Figure
   Caption, Image

Caption
   TEXT

Image
   code for image


Then attach paragraph formatting to the caption however you want, but add a 
prefix of \r to put a line break at the end of the paragraph.

Now you get this:

Figure 1: Some caption\r
ANCHORED_FRAME\p


The 'end' of the paragraph is now after the anchored frame. The entire 
formatting assigned to the paragraph for caption appears (with numbering etc.) 
before the text the author types.

I've got this working in my DITA template and it's really nice. Even handles 
indents and more correctly. For example, if I need to indent because I have a 
'task' within a 'task' I can do so. I can number then based on context and 
more.

Bernard, as I read it, this is *exactly* what I want to do. Thanks for this 
information.
-- 
Steve
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Line breaks and figure titles in structure

2006-01-05 Thread Bernard Aschwanden
The easiest solution is to set up the EDD to support everything...

In the EDD define something like this:

Figure
Caption, Image

Caption


Image
code for image


Then attach paragraph formatting to the caption however you want, but add a 
prefix of \r to put a line break at the end of the paragraph.

Now you get this:

Figure 1: Some caption\r
ANCHORED_FRAME\p


The 'end' of the paragraph is now after the anchored frame. The entire 
formatting assigned to the paragraph for caption appears (with numbering etc.) 
before the text the author types.

I've got this working in my DITA template and it's really nice. Even handles 
indents and more correctly. For example, if I need to indent because I have a 
'task' within a 'task' I can do so. I can number then based on context and more.

If anyone on the list is at the DITA conference I'll be showing this exact 
template there as well. If you want to see an example, I may be able to build a 
generic one over the weekend. Let me know...

Bernard



Bernard Aschwanden
Publishing Technologies Expert
Publishing Smarter

bernard at publishingsmarter.com 

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-Original Message-
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[mailto:framers-bounces+bernard=publishingsmarter@lists.frameusers.com] On 
Behalf Of John Posada
Sent: Thursday, January 05, 2006 11:55 AM
To: Ridder, Fred; Steve Rickaby; framers at FrameUsers.com
Subject: RE: Figure titles in structured FrameMaker

Hi, Fred...never said it didn't. After all, it is a paragraph tag, so it must 
be a paragraph. However, in my case, my achored from is designated as "at 
insertion point" and I shrinkwrap all my graphics (esc m p). To me, it doesn't 
matter that it is a paragraph attribute as the graphic is the only thing in the 
paragraph. 

--- "Ridder, Fred"  wrote:

> Sorry, John. If it's a paragraph tag, it gets applied to the paragraph 
> that holds the frame anchor rather than the anchored frame itself.
> 
> Consider the case where you have several frame anchors in the same 
> paragraph (perfectly valid, but not good practice).

As you said, it isn't good practice.

John Posada
Senior Technical Writer

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 too many. Monogamy is the same."
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Line breaks and figure titles in structure

2006-01-05 Thread Bernard Aschwanden
Oops. Meant a suffix... See my other email for the details.



Then attach paragraph formatting to the caption however you want, but add a 


Prefix
 

of \r to put a line break at the end of the paragraph.




Line breaks and figure titles in structure

2006-01-05 Thread Steve Rickaby
At 12:15 pm -0500 5/1/06, Bernard Aschwanden wrote:

>The easiest solution is to set up the EDD to support everything...
>
>In the EDD define something like this:
>
>Figure
>   Caption, Image
>
>Caption
>   
>
>Image
>   code for image
>
>
>Then attach paragraph formatting to the caption however you want, but add a 
>prefix of \r to put a line break at the end of the paragraph.
>
>Now you get this:
>
>Figure 1: Some caption\r
>ANCHORED_FRAME\p
>
>
>The 'end' of the paragraph is now after the anchored frame. The entire 
>formatting assigned to the paragraph for caption appears (with numbering etc.) 
>before the text the author types.
>
>I've got this working in my DITA template and it's really nice. Even handles 
>indents and more correctly. For example, if I need to indent because I have a 
>'task' within a 'task' I can do so. I can number then based on context and 
>more.

Bernard, as I read it, this is *exactly* what I want to do. Thanks for this 
information.
-- 
Steve



Line breaks and figure titles in structure

2006-01-05 Thread Steve Rickaby
At 12:36 pm -0500 5/1/06, Bernard Aschwanden wrote:

>Oops. Meant a suffix... See my other email for the details.
>
>Then attach paragraph formatting to the caption however you want, but add a
>
>
>Prefix
>
>
>of \r to put a line break at the end of the paragraph.

Well, I was about to say... ;-) Yes, I really did notice this, this structure 
stuff is keeping me on my toes. As it's... er... all of nineteen years since I 
wrote any real computer code, it's reaching places in my brain that other tasks 
don't reach, to borrow a well-known commercial. And finding a great deal of 
cobwebs and general debris there.
-- 
Steve