Re: OT: Windows 7 operating systems, Windows Explorer failing to display files

2012-09-03 Thread Robert Lauriston
Did you refresh the display for the directory? That has always fixed
those problems for me.

On Mon, Aug 27, 2012 at 9:18 AM,  dave.st...@gdc4s.com wrote:
 2012-08-27-01T16:20Z

 Framers using Windows 7 operating systems:

 My setups:  At work:  Windows 7 Enterprise SP 1; at home:  Windows 7 Home 
 Premium SP 1

 NOTE:  If you have experienced the problem described below, please 
 reply - off-list, if you wish - so I can document to the Service Desk staff 
 that, It's not just me, which I know it's not.

 Intermittently, irregularly, in both operating systems, Windows Explorer 
 fails to display files I just saved.
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OT: Windows 7 operating systems, Windows Explorer failing to display files

2012-08-27 Thread Dave.Stamm
2012-08-27-01T16:20Z

Framers using Windows 7 operating systems:

My setups:  At work:  Windows 7 Enterprise SP 1; at home:  Windows 7 Home 
Premium SP 1

NOTE:  If you have experienced the problem described below, please 
reply - off-list, if you wish - so I can document to the Service Desk staff 
that, It's not just me, which I know it's not.

Intermittently, irregularly, in both operating systems, Windows Explorer fails 
to display files I just saved.

At work, I save  99 % of files into a security group of folders on a server on 
the LAN.  At home, I save  99 % of files onto the hard drive of my workstation.

Immediately after saving one or more files to either place, I start the files' 
native programs or use Windows Explorer to open the files.  I navigate to the 
folder into which I just saved the file or files.  The entries for the files do 
not appear.

I choose the folder that contains the files, display the window for the 
folder's properties, and confirm that the Hidden check box has 
_no_check_mark_.  I've even applied Hidden to the folder and then reversed 
the setting.  Still no just-saved files displayed.

As of this morning, the most-recent twist is that Windows Explorer displayed 
some files that I expected to see but that it did not display last Friday.  
Because one of my mapped network drives did not appear in Windows Explorer, I 
was advised to log off and to log back on, which I did.  Windows Explorer 
displayed the missing drive just fine.  _And_ again displayed the list of 
files as it had appeared last Friday.

I suspect that there's a problem with Windows Explorer's caching of its 
displays or some such.  So, to pursue a fix to the problem, I have to report it 
to the staff of the Service Desk.  This is where your confirming my experience 
comes in.

¡Thanks! in advance for your time and interest.

Regards,
Dave Stamm
Information Engineer

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Re: OT: Windows 7 operating systems, Windows Explorer failing to display files

2012-08-27 Thread Shmuel Wolfson
I had that for a while. You forgot to mention whether you have a 64-bit 
computer. I think the problem by me was when I transferred a file using 
a 32-bit program. Windows Explorer, which I assume is 64-bit on a 64-bit 
OS, didn't always display the file. I haven't noticed in a while, so 
maybe a Windows update took care of it.


Regards,
Shmuel Wolfson
052-763-7133

On 27-Aug-12 7:18 PM, dave.st...@gdc4s.com wrote:

2012-08-27-01T16:20Z

Framers using Windows 7 operating systems:

My setups:  At work:  Windows 7 Enterprise SP 1; at home:  Windows 7 Home 
Premium SP 1

NOTE:  If you have experienced the problem described below, please reply - 
off-list, if you wish - so I can document to the Service Desk staff that, It's not 
just me, which I know it's not.

Intermittently, irregularly, in both operating systems, Windows Explorer fails 
to display files I just saved.

At work, I save  99 % of files into a security group of folders on a server on 
the LAN.  At home, I save  99 % of files onto the hard drive of my workstation.

Immediately after saving one or more files to either place, I start the files' 
native programs or use Windows Explorer to open the files.  I navigate to the 
folder into which I just saved the file or files.  The entries for the files do 
not appear.

I choose the folder that contains the files, display the window for the folder's properties, and 
confirm that the Hidden check box has _no_check_mark_.  I've even applied 
Hidden to the folder and then reversed the setting.  Still no just-saved files 
displayed.

As of this morning, the most-recent twist is that Windows Explorer displayed some files 
that I expected to see but that it did not display last Friday.  Because one of my mapped 
network drives did not appear in Windows Explorer, I was advised to log off and to log 
back on, which I did.  Windows Explorer displayed the missing drive just 
fine.  _And_ again displayed the list of files as it had appeared last Friday.

I suspect that there's a problem with Windows Explorer's caching of its 
displays or some such.  So, to pursue a fix to the problem, I have to report it 
to the staff of the Service Desk.  This is where your confirming my experience 
comes in.

¡Thanks! in advance for your time and interest.

Regards,
Dave Stamm
Information Engineer

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RE: OT: Windows 7 operating systems, Windows Explorer failing to display files

2012-08-27 Thread Dave.Stamm
2012-08-27-01T18:05Z

Thanks to all who have responded so far.  I hope to hear from more of you soon.

Below, Shmuel correctly points out that I failed to specify whether the 
operating systems are 32- or 64 bit.

Both at work and at home, the operating systems are Windows 7, 64-bit.

Further, one respondent reported having experienced this behavior for some 
years when using the Windows XP operating system.  I did not experience this 
behavior when I had Windows XP, so our mileage has varied (OMHV).

Regards,
Dave Stamm
Information Engineer
General Dynamics C4 Systems, Inc.
Logistics Department, Logistics Section
1700 Magnavox Way, Suite 200 We'll hit your targets from here.(tm)
Fort Wayne, Indiana  46804-1552; US
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-Original Message-
From: Shmuel Wolfson [mailto:shmue...@gmail.com] 
Sent: 2012-08-27-Monday 12:30
To: Stamm, David-P45904
Cc: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Re: OT: Windows 7 operating systems, Windows Explorer failing to 
display files

I had that for a while. You forgot to mention whether you have a 64-bit 
computer. I think the problem by me was when I transferred a file using 
a 32-bit program. Windows Explorer, which I assume is 64-bit on a 64-bit 
OS, didn't always display the file. I haven't noticed in a while, so 
maybe a Windows update took care of it.

Regards,
Shmuel Wolfson
052-763-7133

On 27-Aug-12 7:18 PM, dave.st...@gdc4s.com wrote:
 2012-08-27-01T16:20Z

 Framers using Windows 7 operating systems:

 My setups:  At work:  Windows 7 Enterprise SP 1; at home:  Windows 7 Home 
 Premium SP 1

   NOTE:  If you have experienced the problem described below, please 
 reply - off-list, if you wish - so I can document to the Service Desk staff 
 that, It's not just me, which I know it's not.

 Intermittently, irregularly, in both operating systems, Windows Explorer 
 fails to display files I just saved.

 At work, I save  99 % of files into a security group of folders on a server 
 on the LAN.  At home, I save  99 % of files onto the hard drive of my 
 workstation.

 Immediately after saving one or more files to either place, I start the 
 files' native programs or use Windows Explorer to open the files.  I navigate 
 to the folder into which I just saved the file or files.  The entries for the 
 files do not appear.

 I choose the folder that contains the files, display the window for the 
 folder's properties, and confirm that the Hidden check box has 
 _no_check_mark_.  I've even applied Hidden to the folder and then reversed 
 the setting.  Still no just-saved files displayed.

 As of this morning, the most-recent twist is that Windows Explorer displayed 
 some files that I expected to see but that it did not display last Friday.  
 Because one of my mapped network drives did not appear in Windows Explorer, I 
 was advised to log off and to log back on, which I did.  Windows Explorer 
 displayed the missing drive just fine.  _And_ again displayed the list of 
 files as it had appeared last Friday.

 I suspect that there's a problem with Windows Explorer's caching of its 
 displays or some such.  So, to pursue a fix to the problem, I have to report 
 it to the staff of the Service Desk.  This is where your confirming my 
 experience comes in.

 ¡Thanks! in advance for your time and interest.

 Regards,
 Dave Stamm
 Information Engineer

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RE: OT: Windows 7 operating systems, Windows Explorer failing to display files

2012-08-27 Thread Dave.Stamm
2012-08-27-01T18:45Z

 

Thanks, Lise, for the additional tidbit.

 

Below, Lise points out that pressing the F5 key to refresh the display for 
files on a network resolves the failure to display, and that the failure to 
display does not happen when using C: \.

 

For me, pressing the F5 key has had no positive effect, either on the LAN or on 
C: \.

 

Regards,

Dave Stamm

Information Engineer

General Dynamics C4 Systems, Inc.

Logistics Department, Logistics Section

1700 Magnavox Way, Suite 200 We'll hit your targets from here.(tm)

Fort Wayne, Indiana  46804-1552; US

tel:  260-434-9620 fax:  260.434.9501 / 9509

dave.st...@gdc4s.com http://www.gdc4s.com/

 

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From: Lise Bible [mailto:rentagoodb...@gmail.com] 
Sent: 2012-08-27-Monday 14:38
To: Stamm, David-P45904
Subject: Re: OT: Windows 7 operating systems, Windows Explorer failing to 
display files

 

Dave,

I've experienced something like this, though I think it's strictly due to the 
speed (or lag) of our network/servers. I've often saved files to a network 
location, and then have to press F5 (refresh) to get them to appear in Windows 
Explorer. If I save files to my C: drive, however, I do not experience this. 
Other co-workers report the same behavior. 

This was both when I was on WinXP (32-bit), and now (for only a few weeks so 
far) on Win7 (64-bit)...hence why I think it's the network and not the 
operating system.

I've basically learned to live with it (it's trained me to always press F5 to 
make sure I'm seeing all files), but it could also be that the bar has been set 
pretty low as far as my expectations of our IT service desk.

 

-Lise

 

On Mon, Aug 27, 2012 at 1:03 PM, dave.st...@gdc4s.com wrote:

2012-08-27-01T18:05Z

Thanks to all who have responded so far.  I hope to hear from more of you soon.

Below, Shmuel correctly points out that I failed to specify whether the 
operating systems are 32- or 64 bit.

Both at work and at home, the operating systems are Windows 7, 64-bit.

Further, one respondent reported having experienced this behavior for some 
years when using the Windows XP operating system.  I did not experience this 
behavior when I had Windows XP, so our mileage has varied (OMHV).


Regards,
Dave Stamm
Information Engineer

General Dynamics C4 Systems, Inc.
Logistics Department, Logistics Section
1700 Magnavox Way, Suite 200 We'll hit your targets from here.(tm)
Fort Wayne, Indiana  46804-1552; US
tel:  260-434-9620  fax:  260.434.9501 / 9509
dave.st...@gdc4s.com http://www.gdc4s.com/

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-Original Message-
From: Shmuel Wolfson [mailto:shmue...@gmail.com]
Sent: 2012-08-27-Monday 12:30
To: Stamm, David-P45904
Cc: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Re: OT: Windows 7 operating systems, Windows Explorer failing to 
display files

I had that for a while. You forgot to mention whether you have a 64-bit
computer. I think the problem by me was when I transferred a file using
a 32-bit program. Windows Explorer, which I assume is 64-bit on a 64-bit
OS, didn't always display the file. I haven't noticed in a while, so
maybe a Windows update took care of it.

Regards,
Shmuel Wolfson
052-763-7133

On 27-Aug-12 7:18 PM, dave.st...@gdc4s.com wrote:
 2012-08-27-01T16:20Z

 Framers using Windows 7 operating systems:

 My setups:  At work:  Windows 7 Enterprise SP 1; at home:  Windows 7 Home 
 Premium SP 1

   NOTE:  If you have experienced the problem described below, please 
 reply - off-list, if you wish - so I can document to the Service Desk staff 
 that, It's not just me, which I know it's not.

 Intermittently, irregularly, in both operating systems, Windows Explorer 
 fails to display files I just saved.

 At work, I save  99 % of files into a security group of folders on a server 
 on the LAN.  At home, I save  99 % of files onto

RE: OT: Windows 7 operating systems, Windows Explorer failing to display files

2012-08-27 Thread Dave.Stamm
2012-08-27-01T19:25Z

 

Penelope, thanks for the further refinement.

 

For me, closing and reopening Windows Explorer has had no effect.  Neither have 
restarting or shutting down and starting up the workstation, so OMHV.  I seem 
to have no influence (let alone control) in the matter.

 

Regards,

Dave Stamm

Information Engineer

 

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From: Penelope Perkins [mailto:penelope.perk...@synergex.com] 
Sent: 2012-08-27-Monday 15:02
To: Stamm, David-P45904
Subject: RE: OT: Windows 7 operating systems, Windows Explorer failing to 
display files

 

Dave,

 

I've seen this bug in Windows off and on for years, perhaps since XP. I first 
try F5, which rarely works. Oftentimes, closing down the Explorer window and 
reopening it will force a refresh, and if not that, then a reboot is worth a 
try. I have occasionally gone to a command prompt window to make sure I really 
put the file where I think I did. In my experience, the command prompt always 
displays files correctly, confirming that this is an Explorer bug. It has 
(happily) been a long time since I've encountered it. 

 

Regards,

Penelope

 

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[mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of dave.st...@gdc4s.com
Sent: Monday, August 27, 2012 11:44 AM
To: rentagoodb...@gmail.com; framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: RE: OT: Windows 7 operating systems, Windows Explorer failing to 
display files

 

2012-08-27-01T18:45Z

 

Thanks, Lise, for the additional tidbit.

 

Below, Lise points out that pressing the F5 key to refresh the display for 
files on a network resolves the failure to display, and that the failure to 
display does not happen when using C: \.

 

For me, pressing the F5 key has had no positive effect, either on the LAN or on 
C: \.

 

Regards,

Dave Stamm

Information Engineer

General Dynamics C4 Systems, Inc.

Logistics Department, Logistics Section

1700 Magnavox Way, Suite 200 We'll hit your targets from here.(tm)

Fort Wayne, Indiana  46804-1552; US

tel:  260-434-9620 fax:  260.434.9501 / 9509

dave.st...@gdc4s.com http://www.gdc4s.com/

 

 

From: Lise Bible [mailto:rentagoodb...@gmail.com] 
Sent: 2012-08-27-Monday 14:38
To: Stamm, David-P45904
Subject: Re: OT: Windows 7 operating systems, Windows Explorer failing to 
display files

 

Dave,

I've experienced something like this, though I think it's strictly due to the 
speed (or lag) of our network/servers. I've often saved files to a network 
location, and then have to press F5 (refresh) to get them to appear in Windows 
Explorer. If I save files to my C: drive, however, I do not experience this. 
Other co-workers report the same behavior. 

This was both when I was on WinXP (32-bit), and now (for only a few weeks so 
far) on Win7 (64-bit)...hence why I think it's the network and not the 
operating system.

I've basically learned to live with it (it's trained me to always press F5 to 
make sure I'm seeing all files), but it could also be that the bar has been set 
pretty low as far as my expectations of our IT service desk.

 

-Lise

 

On Mon, Aug 27, 2012 at 1:03 PM, dave.st...@gdc4s.com wrote:

2012-08-27-01T18:05Z

Thanks to all who have responded so far.  I hope to hear from more of you soon.

Below, Shmuel correctly points out that I failed to specify whether the 
operating systems are 32- or 64 bit.

Both at work and at home, the operating systems are Windows 7, 64-bit.

Further, one respondent reported having experienced this behavior for some 
years when using the Windows XP operating system.  I did not experience this 
behavior when I had Windows XP, so our mileage has varied (OMHV).


Regards,
Dave Stamm
Information Engineer

General Dynamics C4 Systems, Inc.
Logistics Department, Logistics Section
1700 Magnavox Way, Suite 200 We'll hit your targets from here.(tm)
Fort Wayne, Indiana  46804-1552; US
tel:  260-434-9620  fax:  260.434.9501 / 9509
dave.st...@gdc4s.com http://www.gdc4s.com/



-Original Message-
From: Shmuel Wolfson [mailto:shmue...@gmail.com]
Sent: 2012-08-27-Monday 12:30
To: Stamm, David-P45904
Cc: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Re: OT: Windows 7 operating systems, Windows Explorer failing to 
display files

I had that for a while. You forgot to mention whether you have a 64-bit
computer. I think the problem by me was when I transferred a file using
a 32-bit program. Windows

OT: Windows 7 operating systems, Windows Explorer failing to display files

2012-08-27 Thread dave.st...@gdc4s.com
2012-08-27-01T16:20Z

Framers using Windows 7 operating systems:

My setups:  At work:  Windows 7 Enterprise SP 1; at home:  Windows 7 Home 
Premium SP 1

NOTE:  If you have experienced the problem described below, please 
reply?- off-list, if you wish?- so I can document to the Service Desk staff 
that, "It's not just me," which I know it's not.

Intermittently, irregularly, in both operating systems, Windows Explorer fails 
to display files I just saved.

At work, I save >?99?% of files into a security group of folders on a server on 
the LAN.  At home, I save >?99?% of files onto the hard drive of my workstation.

Immediately after saving one or more files to either place, I start the files' 
native programs or use Windows Explorer to open the files.  I navigate to the 
folder into which I just saved the file or files.  The entries for the files do 
not appear.

I choose the folder that contains the files, display the window for the 
folder's properties, and confirm that the "Hidden" check box has 
_no_check_mark_.  I've even applied "Hidden" to the folder and then reversed 
the setting.  Still no just-saved files displayed.

As of this morning, the most-recent twist is that Windows Explorer displayed 
some files that I expected to see but that it did not display last Friday.  
Because one of my mapped network drives did not appear in Windows Explorer, I 
was advised to log off and to log back on, which I did.  Windows Explorer 
displayed the "missing" drive just fine.  _And_ again displayed the list of 
files as it had appeared last Friday.

I suspect that there's a problem with Windows Explorer's caching of its 
displays or some such.  So, to pursue a fix to the problem, I have to report it 
to the staff of the Service Desk.  This is where your confirming my experience 
comes in.

"?Thanks!" in advance for your time and interest.

Regards,
Dave Stamm
Information Engineer



OT: Windows 7 operating systems, Windows Explorer failing to display files

2012-08-27 Thread Shmuel Wolfson
I had that for a while. You forgot to mention whether you have a 64-bit 
computer. I think the problem by me was when I transferred a file using 
a 32-bit program. Windows Explorer, which I assume is 64-bit on a 64-bit 
OS, didn't always display the file. I haven't noticed in a while, so 
maybe a Windows update took care of it.

Regards,
Shmuel Wolfson
052-763-7133

On 27-Aug-12 7:18 PM, Dave.Stamm at gdc4s.com wrote:
> 2012-08-27-01T16:20Z
>
> Framers using Windows 7 operating systems:
>
> My setups:  At work:  Windows 7 Enterprise SP 1; at home:  Windows 7 Home 
> Premium SP 1
>
>   NOTE:  If you have experienced the problem described below, please 
> reply - off-list, if you wish - so I can document to the Service Desk staff 
> that, "It's not just me," which I know it's not.
>
> Intermittently, irregularly, in both operating systems, Windows Explorer 
> fails to display files I just saved.
>
> At work, I save > 99 % of files into a security group of folders on a server 
> on the LAN.  At home, I save > 99 % of files onto the hard drive of my 
> workstation.
>
> Immediately after saving one or more files to either place, I start the 
> files' native programs or use Windows Explorer to open the files.  I navigate 
> to the folder into which I just saved the file or files.  The entries for the 
> files do not appear.
>
> I choose the folder that contains the files, display the window for the 
> folder's properties, and confirm that the "Hidden" check box has 
> _no_check_mark_.  I've even applied "Hidden" to the folder and then reversed 
> the setting.  Still no just-saved files displayed.
>
> As of this morning, the most-recent twist is that Windows Explorer displayed 
> some files that I expected to see but that it did not display last Friday.  
> Because one of my mapped network drives did not appear in Windows Explorer, I 
> was advised to log off and to log back on, which I did.  Windows Explorer 
> displayed the "missing" drive just fine.  _And_ again displayed the list of 
> files as it had appeared last Friday.
>
> I suspect that there's a problem with Windows Explorer's caching of its 
> displays or some such.  So, to pursue a fix to the problem, I have to report 
> it to the staff of the Service Desk.  This is where your confirming my 
> experience comes in.
>
> "?Thanks!" in advance for your time and interest.
>
> Regards,
> Dave Stamm
> Information Engineer
>
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OT: Windows 7 operating systems, Windows Explorer failing to display files

2012-08-27 Thread dave.st...@gdc4s.com
2012-08-27-01T18:05Z

Thanks to all who have responded so far.  I hope to hear from more of you soon.

Below, Shmuel correctly points out that I failed to specify whether the 
operating systems are 32- or 64 bit.

Both at work and at home, the operating systems are Windows 7, 64-bit.

Further, one respondent reported having experienced this behavior for some 
years when using the Windows XP operating system.  I did not experience this 
behavior when I had Windows XP, so "our mileage has varied (OMHV)."

Regards,
Dave Stamm
Information Engineer
General Dynamics C4 Systems, Inc.
Logistics Department, Logistics Section
1700 Magnavox Way, Suite 200 We'll hit your targets from here.(tm)
Fort Wayne, Indiana  46804-1552; US
tel:  260-434-9620  fax:  260.434.9501?/ 9509
dave.stamm at gdc4s.com http://www.gdc4s.com/

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-Original Message-
From: Shmuel Wolfson [mailto:shmue...@gmail.com] 
Sent: 2012-08-27-Monday 12:30
To: Stamm, David-P45904
Cc: framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Re: OT: Windows 7 operating systems, Windows Explorer failing to 
display files

I had that for a while. You forgot to mention whether you have a 64-bit 
computer. I think the problem by me was when I transferred a file using 
a 32-bit program. Windows Explorer, which I assume is 64-bit on a 64-bit 
OS, didn't always display the file. I haven't noticed in a while, so 
maybe a Windows update took care of it.

Regards,
Shmuel Wolfson
052-763-7133

On 27-Aug-12 7:18 PM, Dave.Stamm at gdc4s.com wrote:
> 2012-08-27-01T16:20Z
>
> Framers using Windows 7 operating systems:
>
> My setups:  At work:  Windows 7 Enterprise SP 1; at home:  Windows 7 Home 
> Premium SP 1
>
>   NOTE:  If you have experienced the problem described below, please 
> reply - off-list, if you wish - so I can document to the Service Desk staff 
> that, "It's not just me," which I know it's not.
>
> Intermittently, irregularly, in both operating systems, Windows Explorer 
> fails to display files I just saved.
>
> At work, I save > 99 % of files into a security group of folders on a server 
> on the LAN.  At home, I save > 99 % of files onto the hard drive of my 
> workstation.
>
> Immediately after saving one or more files to either place, I start the 
> files' native programs or use Windows Explorer to open the files.  I navigate 
> to the folder into which I just saved the file or files.  The entries for the 
> files do not appear.
>
> I choose the folder that contains the files, display the window for the 
> folder's properties, and confirm that the "Hidden" check box has 
> _no_check_mark_.  I've even applied "Hidden" to the folder and then reversed 
> the setting.  Still no just-saved files displayed.
>
> As of this morning, the most-recent twist is that Windows Explorer displayed 
> some files that I expected to see but that it did not display last Friday.  
> Because one of my mapped network drives did not appear in Windows Explorer, I 
> was advised to log off and to log back on, which I did.  Windows Explorer 
> displayed the "missing" drive just fine.  _And_ again displayed the list of 
> files as it had appeared last Friday.
>
> I suspect that there's a problem with Windows Explorer's caching of its 
> displays or some such.  So, to pursue a fix to the problem, I have to report 
> it to the staff of the Service Desk.  This is where your confirming my 
> experience comes in.
>
> "?Thanks!" in advance for your time and interest.
>
> Regards,
> Dave Stamm
> Information Engineer
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OT: Windows 7 operating systems, Windows Explorer failing to display files

2012-08-27 Thread dave.st...@gdc4s.com
2012-08-27-01T18:45Z



Thanks, Lise, for the additional tidbit.



Below, Lise points out that pressing the F5 key to refresh the display for 
files on a network resolves the failure to display, and that the failure to 
display does not happen when using C: \.



For me, pressing the F5 key has had no positive effect, either on the LAN or on 
C: \.



Regards,

Dave Stamm

Information Engineer

General Dynamics C4 Systems, Inc.

Logistics Department, Logistics Section

1700 Magnavox Way, Suite 200 We'll hit your targets from here.(tm)

Fort Wayne, Indiana  46804-1552; US

tel:  260-434-9620 fax:  260.434.9501 / 9509

dave.stamm at gdc4s.com http://www.gdc4s.com/



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From: Lise Bible [mailto:rentagoodb...@gmail.com] 
Sent: 2012-08-27-Monday 14:38
To: Stamm, David-P45904
Subject: Re: OT: Windows 7 operating systems, Windows Explorer failing to 
display files



Dave,

I've experienced something like this, though I think it's strictly due to the 
speed (or lag) of our network/servers. I've often saved files to a network 
location, and then have to press F5 (refresh) to get them to appear in Windows 
Explorer. If I save files to my C: drive, however, I do not experience this. 
Other co-workers report the same behavior. 

This was both when I was on WinXP (32-bit), and now (for only a few weeks so 
far) on Win7 (64-bit)...hence why I think it's the network and not the 
operating system.

I've basically learned to live with it (it's trained me to always press F5 to 
make sure I'm seeing all files), but it could also be that the bar has been set 
pretty low as far as my expectations of our IT service desk.



-Lise



On Mon, Aug 27, 2012 at 1:03 PM,  wrote:

2012-08-27-01T18:05Z

Thanks to all who have responded so far.  I hope to hear from more of you soon.

Below, Shmuel correctly points out that I failed to specify whether the 
operating systems are 32- or 64 bit.

Both at work and at home, the operating systems are Windows 7, 64-bit.

Further, one respondent reported having experienced this behavior for some 
years when using the Windows XP operating system.  I did not experience this 
behavior when I had Windows XP, so "our mileage has varied (OMHV)."


Regards,
Dave Stamm
Information Engineer

General Dynamics C4 Systems, Inc.
Logistics Department, Logistics Section
1700 Magnavox Way, Suite 200 We'll hit your targets from here.(tm)
Fort Wayne, Indiana  46804-1552; US
tel:  260-434-9620  fax:  260.434.9501 / 9509
dave.stamm at gdc4s.com http://www.gdc4s.com/

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-Original Message-
From: Shmuel Wolfson [mailto:shmue...@gmail.com]
Sent: 2012-08-27-Monday 12:30
To: Stamm, David-P45904
Cc: framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Re: OT: Windows 7 operating systems, Windows Explorer failing to 
display files

I had that for a while. You forgot to mention whether you have a 64-bit
computer. I think the problem by me was when I transferred a file using
a 32-bit program. Windows Explorer, which I assume is 64-bit on a 64-bit
OS, didn't always display the file. I haven't noticed in a while, so
maybe a Windows update took care of it.

Regards,
Shmuel Wolfson
052-763-7133

On 27-Aug-12 7:18 PM, Dave.Stamm at gdc4s.com wrote:
> 2012-08-27-01T16:20Z
>
> Framers using Windows 7 operating systems:
>
> My setups:  At work:  Windows 7 Enterprise SP 1; at home:  Windows 7 Home 
> Premium SP 1
>
>   NOTE:  If you have experienced the problem described below, please 
> reply - off-list, if you wish - so I can document to the Service Desk staff 
> that, "It's not just me," which I know it's not.
>
> Intermittently, irregularly, in both operating systems, Windows Explorer 
> fails to display files I just saved.
>
> At work, I save > 99 % of files into a security group of

OT: Windows 7 operating systems, Windows Explorer failing to display files

2012-08-27 Thread dave.st...@gdc4s.com
2012-08-27-01T19:25Z



Penelope, thanks for the further refinement.



For me, closing and reopening Windows Explorer has had no effect.  Neither have 
restarting or shutting down and starting up the workstation, so OMHV.  I seem 
to have no influence (let alone control) in the matter.



Regards,

Dave Stamm

Information Engineer



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From: Penelope Perkins [mailto:penelope.perk...@synergex.com] 
Sent: 2012-08-27-Monday 15:02
To: Stamm, David-P45904
Subject: RE: OT: Windows 7 operating systems, Windows Explorer failing to 
display files



Dave,



I've seen this bug in Windows off and on for years, perhaps since XP. I first 
try F5, which rarely works. Oftentimes, closing down the Explorer window and 
reopening it will force a refresh, and if not that, then a reboot is worth a 
try. I have occasionally gone to a command prompt window to make sure I really 
put the file where I think I did. In my experience, the command prompt always 
displays files correctly, confirming that this is an Explorer bug. It has 
(happily) been a long time since I've encountered it. 



Regards,

Penelope



From: framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-bounces at 
lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of dave.st...@gdc4s.com
Sent: Monday, August 27, 2012 11:44 AM
To: rentagoodbook at gmail.com; framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: RE: OT: Windows 7 operating systems, Windows Explorer failing to 
display files



2012-08-27-01T18:45Z



Thanks, Lise, for the additional tidbit.



Below, Lise points out that pressing the F5 key to refresh the display for 
files on a network resolves the failure to display, and that the failure to 
display does not happen when using C: \.



For me, pressing the F5 key has had no positive effect, either on the LAN or on 
C: \.



Regards,

Dave Stamm

Information Engineer

General Dynamics C4 Systems, Inc.

Logistics Department, Logistics Section

1700 Magnavox Way, Suite 200 We'll hit your targets from here.(tm)

Fort Wayne, Indiana  46804-1552; US

tel:  260-434-9620 fax:  260.434.9501 / 9509

dave.stamm at gdc4s.com http://www.gdc4s.com/





From: Lise Bible [mailto:rentagoodb...@gmail.com] 
Sent: 2012-08-27-Monday 14:38
To: Stamm, David-P45904
Subject: Re: OT: Windows 7 operating systems, Windows Explorer failing to 
display files



Dave,

I've experienced something like this, though I think it's strictly due to the 
speed (or lag) of our network/servers. I've often saved files to a network 
location, and then have to press F5 (refresh) to get them to appear in Windows 
Explorer. If I save files to my C: drive, however, I do not experience this. 
Other co-workers report the same behavior. 

This was both when I was on WinXP (32-bit), and now (for only a few weeks so 
far) on Win7 (64-bit)...hence why I think it's the network and not the 
operating system.

I've basically learned to live with it (it's trained me to always press F5 to 
make sure I'm seeing all files), but it could also be that the bar has been set 
pretty low as far as my expectations of our IT service desk.



-Lise



On Mon, Aug 27, 2012 at 1:03 PM,  wrote:

2012-08-27-01T18:05Z

Thanks to all who have responded so far.  I hope to hear from more of you soon.

Below, Shmuel correctly points out that I failed to specify whether the 
operating systems are 32- or 64 bit.

Both at work and at home, the operating systems are Windows 7, 64-bit.

Further, one respondent reported having experienced this behavior for some 
years when using the Windows XP operating system.  I did not experience this 
behavior when I had Windows XP, so "our mileage has varied (OMHV)."


Regards,
Dave Stamm
Information Engineer

General Dynamics C4 Systems, Inc.
Logistics Department, Logistics Section
1700 Magnavox Way, Suite 200 We'll hit your targets from here.(tm)
Fort Wayne, Indiana  46804-1552; US
tel:  260-434-9620  fax:  260.434.9501 / 9509
dave.stamm at gdc4s.com http://www.gdc4s.com/



-Original Message-
From: Shmuel Wolfson [mailto:shmue...@gmail.com]
Sent: 2012-08-27-Monday 12:30
To: Stamm, David-P45904
Cc: framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Re: OT: Windows 7 operating systems, Windows Explorer failing to 
display files

I had that for a while. You forgot to mention whether you have a 64-bit
computer. I think the problem by me was when I transferred a file using
a 32-bit program. Windows Explore

OT: Windows 7 operating systems, Windows Explorer failing to display files

2012-08-27 Thread Robert Lauriston
Did you refresh the display for the directory? That has always fixed
those problems for me.

On Mon, Aug 27, 2012 at 9:18 AM,   wrote:
> 2012-08-27-01T16:20Z
>
> Framers using Windows 7 operating systems:
>
> My setups:  At work:  Windows 7 Enterprise SP 1; at home:  Windows 7 Home 
> Premium SP 1
>
> NOTE:  If you have experienced the problem described below, please 
> reply - off-list, if you wish - so I can document to the Service Desk staff 
> that, "It's not just me," which I know it's not.
>
> Intermittently, irregularly, in both operating systems, Windows Explorer 
> fails to display files I just saved.