PDF (Color to B/W?)

2006-05-31 Thread Fred Ridder
Three follow-up points:

1) If you are creating PDF, you *should* be using the "Adobe PDF"
printer driver. Some people insist that they must use the printer driver
for the actual output device that thei print vendor will be using, but
this is faulty logic and it undercuts the foundation of PDF portability.

2) The Black & White vs. Color printer property setting only exists for
the Adobe PDF printer driver. Drivers for monochrome printers don't
provide the option because they know nothing about color. Drivers
for color printers *might* offer it, but I've never seen one that does;
they all assume that if you're printing to a color printer you want color
output and if you wanted black & white you'd be printing your job
to a cheaper and faster monochrome printer.

3) The Black & White vs. Color printer property setting *will* have
the desired result for TIFF graphics, but will *not* affect EPS or PDF
graphic objects. The reason is that the printer driver never processes
the PostScript code embedded in those graphics; it just passes it
through into the PostScript output stream. If the EPS or PDF contains
color information, that is passed to the PostScript stream unchanged
regardless of the B&W/Color setting.

My opinions only; I don't speak for Intel.
Fred Ridder
Intel
Parsippany, NJ


>From: "Spreadbury, David" 
>To: "Kevin Rusnak" ,"Framers" 
>
>Subject: RE: PDF (Color to B/W?)
>Date: Wed, 31 May 2006 08:17:14 -0500
>
>If you are using the Adobe PDF print driver, under the Properties tab
>should be a selection for B/W or Color. If you aren't using the Adobe
>PDF driver, check the Properties options of the driver you are using.
>There should be a similar option.
>
>-Original Message-
>From: framers-bounces+david.spreadbury=tellabs.com at lists.frameusers.com
>[mailto:framers-bounces+david.spreadbury=tellabs.com at lists.frameusers.co
>m] On Behalf Of Kevin Rusnak
>Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2006 8:14 AM
>To: Framers
>Subject: PDF (Color to B/W?)
>
>
>Our content development team produces a myriad of training materials.
>Our printed materials are produced via Frame 7.2. The graphics are
>grayscale TIF files (which works best in print production). In many
>cases, I am presented with color graphics (JPG or PNG files), which I
>convert to the grayscale TIF format, then import into Frame. The final
>PDF is created using Distiller and everything is hunky-dory, but we are
>now maintaining two versions of the same graphic - one in PNG or JPG and
>one in TIF.
>What we'd ultimately like to do is single-source the color graphic files
>and convert them to grayscale TIF when the PDF is generated. Is there
>anyway to automate this process?
>Thanks for any and all feedback!
>
>
>
>
>Kevin C. Rusnak, CDIA+
>E-Learning Development Specialist, Technical Services
>
>Hyland Software, Inc.
>440.788.5609
>440.788.5709 (fax)
>kevin.rusnak at onbase.com
>www.onbase.com
>28500 Clemens Road
>Westlake, OH 44145

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PDF (Color to B/W?)

2006-05-31 Thread Kevin Rusnak

Our content development team produces a myriad of training materials.
Our printed materials are produced via Frame 7.2. The graphics are
grayscale TIF files (which works best in print production). In many
cases, I am presented with color graphics (JPG or PNG files), which I
convert to the grayscale TIF format, then import into Frame. The final
PDF is created using Distiller and everything is hunky-dory, but we are
now maintaining two versions of the same graphic - one in PNG or JPG and
one in TIF.
What we'd ultimately like to do is single-source the color graphic files
and convert them to grayscale TIF when the PDF is generated. Is there
anyway to automate this process?
Thanks for any and all feedback!




Kevin C. Rusnak, CDIA+
E-Learning Development Specialist, Technical Services

Hyland Software, Inc.
440.788.5609
440.788.5709 (fax)
kevin.rusnak at onbase.com
www.onbase.com
28500 Clemens Road
Westlake, OH 44145




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PDF (Color to B/W?)

2006-05-31 Thread Spreadbury, David
If you are using the Adobe PDF print driver, under the Properties tab
should be a selection for B/W or Color. If you aren't using the Adobe
PDF driver, check the Properties options of the driver you are using.
There should be a similar option.

-Original Message-
From: framers-bounces+david.spreadbury=tellabs@lists.frameusers.com
[mailto:framers-bounces+david.spreadbury=tellabs.com at lists.frameusers.co
m] On Behalf Of Kevin Rusnak
Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2006 8:14 AM
To: Framers
Subject: PDF (Color to B/W?)


Our content development team produces a myriad of training materials.
Our printed materials are produced via Frame 7.2. The graphics are
grayscale TIF files (which works best in print production). In many
cases, I am presented with color graphics (JPG or PNG files), which I
convert to the grayscale TIF format, then import into Frame. The final
PDF is created using Distiller and everything is hunky-dory, but we are
now maintaining two versions of the same graphic - one in PNG or JPG and
one in TIF.
What we'd ultimately like to do is single-source the color graphic files
and convert them to grayscale TIF when the PDF is generated. Is there
anyway to automate this process?
Thanks for any and all feedback!




Kevin C. Rusnak, CDIA+
E-Learning Development Specialist, Technical Services

Hyland Software, Inc.
440.788.5609
440.788.5709 (fax)
kevin.rusnak at onbase.com
www.onbase.com
28500 Clemens Road
Westlake, OH 44145

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PDF (Color to B/W?)

2006-05-31 Thread Grant Hogarth
Kevin--

One possiblity is to set the printer to "B&W" when you print the
hardcopy version.

Another (and what I do) is let my Printing company do the conversion
from a color PDF. 

Grant
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Direct: (+1) 801.270.3180   Main Fax: 801.265.3999
URL: www.equis.com  TZ: Mountain (GMT -7)


-Original Message-
From:  Kevin Rusnak
Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2006 7:14 AM
To: Framers
Subject: PDF (Color to B/W?)


Our content development team produces a myriad of training materials.
Our printed materials are produced via Frame 7.2. The graphics are
grayscale TIF files (which works best in print production). In many
cases, I am presented with color graphics (JPG or PNG files), which I
convert to the grayscale TIF format, then import into Frame. The final
PDF is created using Distiller and everything is hunky-dory, but we are
now maintaining two versions of the same graphic - one in PNG or JPG and
one in TIF.
What we'd ultimately like to do is single-source the color graphic files
and convert them to grayscale TIF when the PDF is generated. Is there
anyway to automate this process?
Thanks for any and all feedback!


Kevin C. Rusnak, CDIA+
E-Learning Development Specialist, Technical Services
Hyland Software, Inc.



RE: PDF (Color to B/W?)

2006-05-31 Thread Fred Ridder

Three follow-up points:

1) If you are creating PDF, you *should* be using the "Adobe PDF"
printer driver. Some people insist that they must use the printer driver
for the actual output device that thei print vendor will be using, but
this is faulty logic and it undercuts the foundation of PDF portability.

2) The Black & White vs. Color printer property setting only exists for
the Adobe PDF printer driver. Drivers for monochrome printers don't
provide the option because they know nothing about color. Drivers
for color printers *might* offer it, but I've never seen one that does;
they all assume that if you're printing to a color printer you want color
output and if you wanted black & white you'd be printing your job
to a cheaper and faster monochrome printer.

3) The Black & White vs. Color printer property setting *will* have
the desired result for TIFF graphics, but will *not* affect EPS or PDF
graphic objects. The reason is that the printer driver never processes
the PostScript code embedded in those graphics; it just passes it
through into the PostScript output stream. If the EPS or PDF contains
color information, that is passed to the PostScript stream unchanged
regardless of the B&W/Color setting.

My opinions only; I don't speak for Intel.
Fred Ridder
Intel
Parsippany, NJ



From: "Spreadbury, David" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Kevin Rusnak" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,"Framers" 


Subject: RE: PDF (Color to B/W?)
Date: Wed, 31 May 2006 08:17:14 -0500

If you are using the Adobe PDF print driver, under the Properties tab
should be a selection for B/W or Color. If you aren't using the Adobe
PDF driver, check the Properties options of the driver you are using.
There should be a similar option.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
m] On Behalf Of Kevin Rusnak
Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2006 8:14 AM
To: Framers
Subject: PDF (Color to B/W?)


Our content development team produces a myriad of training materials.
Our printed materials are produced via Frame 7.2. The graphics are
grayscale TIF files (which works best in print production). In many
cases, I am presented with color graphics (JPG or PNG files), which I
convert to the grayscale TIF format, then import into Frame. The final
PDF is created using Distiller and everything is hunky-dory, but we are
now maintaining two versions of the same graphic - one in PNG or JPG and
one in TIF.
What we'd ultimately like to do is single-source the color graphic files
and convert them to grayscale TIF when the PDF is generated. Is there
anyway to automate this process?
Thanks for any and all feedback!




Kevin C. Rusnak, CDIA+
E-Learning Development Specialist, Technical Services

Hyland Software, Inc.
440.788.5609
440.788.5709 (fax)
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
www.onbase.com
28500 Clemens Road
Westlake, OH 44145


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RE: PDF (Color to B/W?)

2006-05-31 Thread Grant Hogarth
Kevin--

One possiblity is to set the printer to "B&W" when you print the
hardcopy version.

Another (and what I do) is let my Printing company do the conversion
from a color PDF. 

Grant
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-Original Message-
From:  Kevin Rusnak
Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2006 7:14 AM
To: Framers
Subject: PDF (Color to B/W?)


Our content development team produces a myriad of training materials.
Our printed materials are produced via Frame 7.2. The graphics are
grayscale TIF files (which works best in print production). In many
cases, I am presented with color graphics (JPG or PNG files), which I
convert to the grayscale TIF format, then import into Frame. The final
PDF is created using Distiller and everything is hunky-dory, but we are
now maintaining two versions of the same graphic - one in PNG or JPG and
one in TIF.
What we'd ultimately like to do is single-source the color graphic files
and convert them to grayscale TIF when the PDF is generated. Is there
anyway to automate this process?
Thanks for any and all feedback!


Kevin C. Rusnak, CDIA+
E-Learning Development Specialist, Technical Services
Hyland Software, Inc.
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RE: PDF (Color to B/W?)

2006-05-31 Thread Spreadbury, David
If you are using the Adobe PDF print driver, under the Properties tab
should be a selection for B/W or Color. If you aren't using the Adobe
PDF driver, check the Properties options of the driver you are using.
There should be a similar option.

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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
m] On Behalf Of Kevin Rusnak
Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2006 8:14 AM
To: Framers
Subject: PDF (Color to B/W?)


Our content development team produces a myriad of training materials.
Our printed materials are produced via Frame 7.2. The graphics are
grayscale TIF files (which works best in print production). In many
cases, I am presented with color graphics (JPG or PNG files), which I
convert to the grayscale TIF format, then import into Frame. The final
PDF is created using Distiller and everything is hunky-dory, but we are
now maintaining two versions of the same graphic - one in PNG or JPG and
one in TIF.
What we'd ultimately like to do is single-source the color graphic files
and convert them to grayscale TIF when the PDF is generated. Is there
anyway to automate this process?
Thanks for any and all feedback!




Kevin C. Rusnak, CDIA+
E-Learning Development Specialist, Technical Services

Hyland Software, Inc.
440.788.5609
440.788.5709 (fax)
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
www.onbase.com
28500 Clemens Road
Westlake, OH 44145

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PDF (Color to B/W?)

2006-05-31 Thread Kevin Rusnak

Our content development team produces a myriad of training materials.
Our printed materials are produced via Frame 7.2. The graphics are
grayscale TIF files (which works best in print production). In many
cases, I am presented with color graphics (JPG or PNG files), which I
convert to the grayscale TIF format, then import into Frame. The final
PDF is created using Distiller and everything is hunky-dory, but we are
now maintaining two versions of the same graphic - one in PNG or JPG and
one in TIF.
What we'd ultimately like to do is single-source the color graphic files
and convert them to grayscale TIF when the PDF is generated. Is there
anyway to automate this process?
Thanks for any and all feedback!




Kevin C. Rusnak, CDIA+
E-Learning Development Specialist, Technical Services

Hyland Software, Inc.
440.788.5609
440.788.5709 (fax)
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
www.onbase.com
28500 Clemens Road
Westlake, OH 44145




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