RE: Differences in screen fonts not appearing in printed or pdf
Rod, there are two or three main places where things can go wrong: 1. When you create the PDF, you need to make sure that you are embedding the fonts inside it. This is controlled by the Adobe Distiller settings - there's a check box on one of the dialogs that says something like Embed all fonts and cancel the PDF creation if this fails. (If you don't do this, the PDF just contains the *name* of the font, and when its viewed or printed on any given device, it just asks the device politely if that font is available). 2. Your PDF viewer (eg. Adobe Acrobat) - there is usually a setting buried in there somewhere which forces it to use the fonts embedded in the PDF itself (rather than a font which may be installed on the PC you're viewing it on). Make sure that's set right. 3. When you print your PDF onto paper, you need to make sure your printer driver for that printer is set to download the fonts from your computer, rather than just use its own fonts. (Some printers have fonts stored in their own local memory). There'll be a setting in the printer diver settings called Download as Softfont or something like that. Make sure that's selected. Hopefully that should sort it. David Message: 1 Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2013 09:09:31 +1300 From: Rod Fee rod...@xtra.co.nz To: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: Differences in screen fonts not appearing in printed or pdf docs Message-ID: 003401cec850$21467e90$63d37bb0$@xtra.co.nz Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Hi guys, I have written a book, an experimental academic novel, in Framemaker 10.0.2.419 which has three frames per page and in each I use a slightly different font and want to preserve that. The three fonts I am using are: Garamond Opentype Adobe Garamond Pro Opentype Bembo Truetype On the screen these three fonts are clearly identifiable as different to one another. When I: a. save to pdf and view on the screen; or b. print to my printer from the pdf; or c. print to my printer from the native FM files the difference in fonts becomes minimal to the extent that I cannot tell them apart. I am thinking that it is not a printer driver issue because of the pdf experience. My OS is Windows 8 My Printer is a Brother HL-2270DW series bw laser printer Any hints/clues/advice/help would be appreciated. If there is another alternative series of three fonts that are very close but visibly subtly different anyone can suggest I would also appreciate such advice. The reason I am wanting to use different fonts is that in the final chapter of the work, the fonts are nixed depending on which of the three layers of narrative they originate from and I want to make that clear to a discerning reader without making it look too varied and ruin the reading flow. Kind regards, Rod Fee Auckland, New Zealand rod...@xtra.co.nz -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.frameusers.com/pipermail/framers/attachments/20131014/9ef80fba/attachment-0001.html -- Message: 2 Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2013 11:31:48 -0500 From: Scott Turner qui...@airmail.net To: Rod Fee rod...@xtra.co.nz Cc: framers@lists.frameusers.com framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: Re: Differences in screen fonts not appearing in printed or pdf docs Message-ID: f750d965-bec9-4710-a626-dd5e2bb58...@airmail.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Interesting problem. The use of two Garamond fonts from different found arises will no necessarily produce discernibly different characters. A totally different don't family should be used instead of two Garamond fonts. I have noticed that on Windows, font representation accuracy diminishes when viewing at less than 100%. I've noted that characters lose definition unless viewed at 120% magnification. That seems to be part and parcel of the Windows font management code under high resolution screen viewing. Scott T. On Oct 13, 2013, at 15:09, Rod Fee rod...@xtra.co.nz wrote: Hi guys, I have written a book, an experimental academic novel, in Framemaker 10.0.2.419 which has three frames per page and in each I use a slightly different font and want to preserve that. The three fonts I am using are: Garamond Opentype Adobe Garamond Pro Opentype Bembo Truetype On the screen these three fonts are clearly identifiable as different to one another. When I: a. save to pdf and view on the screen; or b. print to my printer from the pdf; or c. print to my printer from the native FM files the difference in fonts becomes minimal to the extent that I cannot tell them apart. I am thinking that it is not a printer driver issue because of the pdf experience. My OS is Windows 8 My Printer is a Brother HL-2270DW series bw laser printer Any hints/clues/advice/help would be appreciated. If there is
Re: Differences in screen fonts not appearing in printed or pdf docs
Interesting problem. The use of two Garamond fonts from different found arises will no necessarily produce discernibly different characters. A totally different don't family should be used instead of two Garamond fonts. I have noticed that on Windows, font representation accuracy diminishes when viewing at less than 100%. I've noted that characters lose definition unless viewed at 120% magnification. That seems to be part and parcel of the Windows font management code under high resolution screen viewing. Scott T. On Oct 13, 2013, at 15:09, Rod Fee rod...@xtra.co.nz wrote: Hi guys, I have written a book, an experimental academic novel, in Framemaker 10.0.2.419 which has three frames per page and in each I use a slightly different font and want to preserve that. The three fonts I am using are: Garamond Opentype Adobe Garamond Pro Opentype Bembo Truetype On the screen these three fonts are clearly identifiable as different to one another. When I: a. save to pdf and view on the screen; or b. print to my printer from the pdf; or c. print to my printer from the native FM files the difference in fonts becomes minimal to the extent that I cannot tell them apart. I am thinking that it is not a printer driver issue because of the pdf experience. My OS is Windows 8 My Printer is a Brother HL-2270DW series bw laser printer Any hints/clues/advice/help would be appreciated. If there is another alternative series of three fonts that are very close but visibly subtly different anyone can suggest I would also appreciate such advice. The reason I am wanting to use different fonts is that in the final chapter of the work, the fonts are nixed depending on which of the three layers of narrative they originate from and I want to make that clear to a discerning reader without making it look too varied and ruin the reading flow. Kind regards, Rod Fee Auckland, New Zealand rod...@xtra.co.nz ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as qui...@airmail.net. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/quills%40airmail.net Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Differences in screen fonts not appearing in printed or pdf docs
You need to set the PDF job options to subset all fonts. Then the PDF should look right on screen. If it doesn't, your fonts probably aren't installed right. On Sun, Oct 13, 2013 at 1:09 PM, Rod Fee rod...@xtra.co.nz wrote: Hi guys, I have written a book, an experimental academic novel, in Framemaker 10.0.2.419 which has three frames per page and in each I use a slightly different font and want to preserve that. The three fonts I am using are: Garamond Opentype Adobe Garamond Pro Opentype Bembo Truetype On the screen these three fonts are clearly identifiable as different to one another. When I: a. save to pdf and view on the screen; or b. print to my printer from the pdf; or c. print to my printer from the native FM files the difference in fonts becomes minimal to the extent that I cannot tell them apart. I am thinking that it is not a printer driver issue because of the pdf experience. My OS is Windows 8 My Printer is a Brother HL-2270DW series bw laser printer Any hints/clues/advice/help would be appreciated. If there is another alternative series of three fonts that are very close but visibly subtly different anyone can suggest I would also appreciate such advice. The reason I am wanting to use different fonts is that in the final chapter of the work, the fonts are nixed depending on which of the three layers of narrative they originate from and I want to make that clear to a discerning reader without making it look too varied and ruin the reading flow. Kind regards, Rod Fee Auckland, New Zealand rod...@xtra.co.nz ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as rob...@lauriston.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/robert%40lauriston.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
