RE: FM 12 and Acrobat on same machine

[Jeff Coatsworth]

AFAIK it’s the same for both – the “headless” version is just a crippled 
version of the full Acrobat.

From: Denis Daly [mailto:d.d...@icpnewtech.com]
Sent: February-23-15 4:43 AM
To: Ken Poshedly; Jeff Coatsworth
Cc: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: RE: FM 12 and Acrobat on same machine

Just for completeness, is the RGB vs CMYK problem only an issue using the PDF 
creator that comes bundled with FM, or is it also an issue with the separate 
Acrobat installation?

Thanks…

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 [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Ken Poshedly
Sent: 20 February 2015 14:40
To: Jeff Coatsworth
Cc: framers@lists.frameusers.com<mailto:framers@lists.frameusers.com>
Subject: Re: FM 12 and Acrobat on same machine

Jeff is right-on, as far as I'm concerned. Definitely install Acrobat before 
installing FM (making sure to not install the FM PDF creation thingy on top of 
your existing Acrobat installation).

My own question is if my company should bump up to FM 12 from FM 11 if our 
deliverables are only pdf files. That's it -- my company is just not concerned 
with html, etc.

Plus, at $1,000 a pop, Adobe isn't too concerned with pricing itself out of 
reach of more potential customers. What are the differences between the two 
versions that we should make the move?

-- Ken in Atlanta

Sent from my iPhone

On Feb 20, 2015, at 9:08 AM, Jeff Coatsworth 
mailto:jeff.coatswo...@jonasclub.com>> wrote:
When FM is installed standalone, a “headless” PDF Creator version is installed 
to be able to generate PDFs out of FM. This can sometimes clobber existing 
installs of Acrobat. Adding it after the fact should replace the “headless” 
version, but if it fails, then uninstalling everything, installing Acrobat 
first and then installing FM next (mindful of the setting to stop the PDF 
Creator from installing) should get you up and running.

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 [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Denis Daly
Sent: February-20-15 6:00 AM
To: framers@lists.frameusers.com<mailto:framers@lists.frameusers.com>
Subject: FM 12 and Acrobat on same machine

Good morning all,

I am hoping to add Adobe Acrobat to my FM 12 installation soon.

I was just wondering about best practice regarding this.

I assume it is recommended to use Acrobat rather than say a cheaper PDF editor 
, like Foxit?

Also, could someone explain what happens when Acrobat is co-installed, in terms 
of any effect on  the normal PDF creation within FM? Do I need to be aware of 
any issues?

Thanks in advance,

Denis



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RE: FM 12 and Acrobat on same machine

[Denis Daly]

Just for completeness, is the RGB vs CMYK problem only an issue using the PDF 
creator that comes bundled with FM, or is it also an issue with the separate 
Acrobat installation?

Thanks…

From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com 
[mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Ken Poshedly
Sent: 20 February 2015 14:40
To: Jeff Coatsworth
Cc: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Re: FM 12 and Acrobat on same machine

Jeff is right-on, as far as I'm concerned. Definitely install Acrobat before 
installing FM (making sure to not install the FM PDF creation thingy on top of 
your existing Acrobat installation).

My own question is if my company should bump up to FM 12 from FM 11 if our 
deliverables are only pdf files. That's it -- my company is just not concerned 
with html, etc.

Plus, at $1,000 a pop, Adobe isn't too concerned with pricing itself out of 
reach of more potential customers. What are the differences between the two 
versions that we should make the move?

-- Ken in Atlanta

Sent from my iPhone

On Feb 20, 2015, at 9:08 AM, Jeff Coatsworth 
mailto:jeff.coatswo...@jonasclub.com>> wrote:
When FM is installed standalone, a “headless” PDF Creator version is installed 
to be able to generate PDFs out of FM. This can sometimes clobber existing 
installs of Acrobat. Adding it after the fact should replace the “headless” 
version, but if it fails, then uninstalling everything, installing Acrobat 
first and then installing FM next (mindful of the setting to stop the PDF 
Creator from installing) should get you up and running.

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 [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Denis Daly
Sent: February-20-15 6:00 AM
To: framers@lists.frameusers.com<mailto:framers@lists.frameusers.com>
Subject: FM 12 and Acrobat on same machine

Good morning all,

I am hoping to add Adobe Acrobat to my FM 12 installation soon.

I was just wondering about best practice regarding this.

I assume it is recommended to use Acrobat rather than say a cheaper PDF editor 
, like Foxit?

Also, could someone explain what happens when Acrobat is co-installed, in terms 
of any effect on  the normal PDF creation within FM? Do I need to be aware of 
any issues?

Thanks in advance,

Denis



Kind regards,
Denis Daly
Technical Writer


Kilbrittain, Bandon, Co. Cork, 
IRELAND<http://www.myloc8ion.com/index.php/maps/find_code8/?code=WLF-17-68G>

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RE: FM 12 and Acrobat on same machine

[Denis Daly]

Thanks Jeff/Ken,

That helps,

Denis

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[mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Jeff Coatsworth
Sent: 20 February 2015 14:48
To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: WAS: FM 12 and Acrobat on same machine

Well, one of the main things I’m looking for in going from FM11 to FM12 is the 
fix for the fatal crashes that I get from using the scroll wheel on my mouse in 
conjunction with the xrefs panel. That’s #1 for me – I usually blow up once a 
day with that one. The second feature that I’m looking forward to is the 
“remember where everything was left” feature that allows you to exit out of FM 
and then pick up right where you left off when you start it back up again – I 
usually have 4 or 5 docs open at one time & remembering where I left off from 
the prior week gets really challenging.

From: Ken Poshedly [mailto:poshe...@bellsouth.net]
Sent: February-20-15 9:40 AM
To: Jeff Coatsworth
Cc: framers@lists.frameusers.com<mailto:framers@lists.frameusers.com>
Subject: Re: FM 12 and Acrobat on same machine

Jeff is right-on, as far as I'm concerned. Definitely install Acrobat before 
installing FM (making sure to not install the FM PDF creation thingy on top of 
your existing Acrobat installation).

My own question is if my company should bump up to FM 12 from FM 11 if our 
deliverables are only pdf files. That's it -- my company is just not concerned 
with html, etc.

Plus, at $1,000 a pop, Adobe isn't too concerned with pricing itself out of 
reach of more potential customers. What are the differences between the two 
versions that we should make the move?

-- Ken in Atlanta

Sent from my iPhone

On Feb 20, 2015, at 9:08 AM, Jeff Coatsworth 
mailto:jeff.coatswo...@jonasclub.com>> wrote:
When FM is installed standalone, a “headless” PDF Creator version is installed 
to be able to generate PDFs out of FM. This can sometimes clobber existing 
installs of Acrobat. Adding it after the fact should replace the “headless” 
version, but if it fails, then uninstalling everything, installing Acrobat 
first and then installing FM next (mindful of the setting to stop the PDF 
Creator from installing) should get you up and running.

From: 
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 [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Denis Daly
Sent: February-20-15 6:00 AM
To: framers@lists.frameusers.com<mailto:framers@lists.frameusers.com>
Subject: FM 12 and Acrobat on same machine

Good morning all,

I am hoping to add Adobe Acrobat to my FM 12 installation soon.

I was just wondering about best practice regarding this.

I assume it is recommended to use Acrobat rather than say a cheaper PDF editor 
, like Foxit?

Also, could someone explain what happens when Acrobat is co-installed, in terms 
of any effect on  the normal PDF creation within FM? Do I need to be aware of 
any issues?

Thanks in advance,

Denis



Kind regards,
Denis Daly
Technical Writer


Kilbrittain, Bandon, Co. Cork, 
IRELAND<http://www.myloc8ion.com/index.php/maps/find_code8/?code=WLF-17-68G>

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RE: FM 12 and Acrobat on same machine

[Craig Ede]

It's only $400 a pop to upgrade from FM11 to FM12, isn't it? And if your $1000 
estimate includes an upgrade for Acrobat, then you might as well just go on and 
pop the $1200 to upgrade to TCS 5, getting Acrobat and a lot more. (Actually, 
you can get TCS5 for $1200 upgrading from as far back as FM7).

 

Craig

 

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[mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Ken Poshedly
Sent: Friday, February 20, 2015 8:40 AM
To: Jeff Coatsworth
Cc: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Re: FM 12 and Acrobat on same machine

 

Jeff is right-on, as far as I'm concerned. Definitely install Acrobat before 
installing FM (making sure to not install the FM PDF creation thingy on top of 
your existing Acrobat installation).

 

My own question is if my company should bump up to FM 12 from FM 11 if our 
deliverables are only pdf files. That's it -- my company is just not concerned 
with html, etc.

 

Plus, at $1,000 a pop, Adobe isn't too concerned with pricing itself out of 
reach of more potential customers. What are the differences between the two 
versions that we should make the move?

 

-- Ken in Atlanta

Sent from my iPhone


On Feb 20, 2015, at 9:08 AM, Jeff Coatsworth  
wrote:

When FM is installed standalone, a “headless” PDF Creator version is installed 
to be able to generate PDFs out of FM. This can sometimes clobber existing 
installs of Acrobat. Adding it after the fact should replace the “headless” 
version, but if it fails, then uninstalling everything, installing Acrobat 
first and then installing FM next (mindful of the setting to stop the PDF 
Creator from installing) should get you up and running.

 

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[mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Denis Daly
Sent: February-20-15 6:00 AM
To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: FM 12 and Acrobat on same machine

 

Good morning all,

 

I am hoping to add Adobe Acrobat to my FM 12 installation soon.

 

I was just wondering about best practice regarding this.

 

I assume it is recommended to use Acrobat rather than say a cheaper PDF editor 
, like Foxit?

 

Also, could someone explain what happens when Acrobat is co-installed, in terms 
of any effect on  the normal PDF creation within FM? Do I need to be aware of 
any issues? 

 

Thanks in advance,

 

Denis

 

 

 

Kind regards,

Denis Daly

Technical Writer

 



Kilbrittain, Bandon, Co. Cork, IRELAND 
<http://www.myloc8ion.com/index.php/maps/find_code8/?code=WLF-17-68G> 

 

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Re: FM 12 and Acrobat on same machine

[Ken Poshedly]

Jeff is right-on, as far as I'm concerned. Definitely install Acrobat before 
installing FM (making sure to not install the FM PDF creation thingy on top of 
your existing Acrobat installation).

My own question is if my company should bump up to FM 12 from FM 11 if our 
deliverables are only pdf files. That's it -- my company is just not concerned 
with html, etc.

Plus, at $1,000 a pop, Adobe isn't too concerned with pricing itself out of 
reach of more potential customers. What are the differences between the two 
versions that we should make the move?

-- Ken in Atlanta

Sent from my iPhone

> On Feb 20, 2015, at 9:08 AM, Jeff Coatsworth  
> wrote:
> 
> When FM is installed standalone, a “headless” PDF Creator version is 
> installed to be able to generate PDFs out of FM. This can sometimes clobber 
> existing installs of Acrobat. Adding it after the fact should replace the 
> “headless” version, but if it fails, then uninstalling everything, installing 
> Acrobat first and then installing FM next (mindful of the setting to stop the 
> PDF Creator from installing) should get you up and running.
>  
> From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com 
> [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Denis Daly
> Sent: February-20-15 6:00 AM
> To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
> Subject: FM 12 and Acrobat on same machine
>  
> Good morning all,
>  
> I am hoping to add Adobe Acrobat to my FM 12 installation soon.
>  
> I was just wondering about best practice regarding this.
>  
> I assume it is recommended to use Acrobat rather than say a cheaper PDF 
> editor , like Foxit?
>  
> Also, could someone explain what happens when Acrobat is co-installed, in 
> terms of any effect on  the normal PDF creation within FM? Do I need to be 
> aware of any issues?
>  
> Thanks in advance,
>  
> Denis
>  
>  
>  
> Kind regards,
> Denis Daly
> Technical Writer
>  
> 
> Kilbrittain, Bandon, Co. Cork, IRELAND
>  
> Mobile: +353 86 3539962
> Phone:  +353 21 2439119/140
> Fax:   +353 21 2380559
> Info:  www.icpnewtech.com
>  
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RE: FM 12 and Acrobat on same machine

[Jeff Coatsworth]

When FM is installed standalone, a "headless" PDF Creator version is installed 
to be able to generate PDFs out of FM. This can sometimes clobber existing 
installs of Acrobat. Adding it after the fact should replace the "headless" 
version, but if it fails, then uninstalling everything, installing Acrobat 
first and then installing FM next (mindful of the setting to stop the PDF 
Creator from installing) should get you up and running.

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[mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Denis Daly
Sent: February-20-15 6:00 AM
To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: FM 12 and Acrobat on same machine

Good morning all,

I am hoping to add Adobe Acrobat to my FM 12 installation soon.

I was just wondering about best practice regarding this.

I assume it is recommended to use Acrobat rather than say a cheaper PDF editor 
, like Foxit?

Also, could someone explain what happens when Acrobat is co-installed, in terms 
of any effect on  the normal PDF creation within FM? Do I need to be aware of 
any issues?

Thanks in advance,

Denis



Kind regards,
Denis Daly
Technical Writer

[ICPNT Simple Logo White - Small]
Kilbrittain, Bandon, Co. Cork, 
IRELAND

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