RE: Import by Reference Question/Bug ?
"Heroic open" is an escape-key command that causes FrameMaker to ignore any of the conditions that normally cause warnings or messages during the open process, and therefore allows you to open files that have certain minor forms of corruption. The command is Esc, o, H (meaning Escape, lower-case O, and capital H pressed *in sequence* rather than in combination). BTW, you can find many postings about heroic open in the FrameUsers archive by using the Google query string "heroic open" site:frameusers.com (where the quotes *are* part of the quety string) -Fred Ridder > Subject: RE: Import by Reference Question/Bug ? > Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2009 08:58:37 -0400 > From: jeff.coatswo...@jonassoftware.com > To: framers@lists.frameusers.com > > Ok, I give - what's a "heroic open"? Can you explain it for newbies like > me? > > -Original Message- > From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com > [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Richard > Melanson > Sent: Wednesday, August 19, 2009 8:46 AM > To: Richard Melanson; Combs, Richard > Cc: framers@lists.frameusers.com > Subject: RE: Import by Reference Question/Bug ? > > I am not sure who posted the suggestion on using Heroic Open, but it > worked. When I open via this method, the Ignore and Skip work fine and I > am able to do whatever I need with the file. Thank you Everyone for all > your assistance. > Rick > > > -Original Message- > From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com > [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Richard > Melanson > Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2009 6:31 PM > To: Combs, Richard > Cc: framers@lists.frameusers.com > Subject: RE: Import by Reference Question/Bug ? > > Thank you for your input Richard, unfortunately, I am completely > dependent on them and their system, when they are changing a file, it is > moved to a pending directory. I have no say in this matter. I am just > doing the best I can with what I have. Any idea why I still have the > problem? Thank you. > Rick > > -Original Message- > From: Combs, Richard [mailto:richard.co...@polycom.com] > Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2009 6:01 PM > To: Richard Melanson > Cc: framers@lists.frameusers.com > Subject: RE: Import by Reference Question/Bug ? > > Richard Melanson wrote: > > > I use the import by reference function as a kind of alerting system. > My > > Engineering group has a bunch of directories filled with schematic and > > > mechanical drawings they convert to jpg or png or pdf. I then import > by > > reference from these directories into my Frame file to create a > drawing > > book. If Engineering is changing a drawing, it is taken out of its > > original directory and placed into a pending directory waiting for the > > > DCO and the new drawing to become available. When Engineering moves > the > > file, this breaks the import by reference link thus alerting me that > my > > drawing book needs to be updated. > > > > Its at this point I run into my problem of not being able to get by > the > > Missing File window. I have also run into the scenario you state below > > > where multiple files have been moved for updating. I get an updated > > drawing placed back into its original directory, Frame recognizes the > > new drawing and moves on to the next missing file and sticks, its as > if > > the Ignore and Skip functions just don't work. > > OK, I see now. > > If multiple missing files are all in the same new location, say > ../pending_graphics, then in the FM Missing Files dialog, you only need > to identify the new path once for the first missing file. FM will look > in that same location for the other missing ones, rather than bothering > you again. > > Of course, with your workflow, you'll have to point FM back to the > original location once the changed files are DCOed. A PITA, for sure... > > Personally, I think the workflow leaves a lot to be desired. If a > graphics directory is the repository for files imported into FM by > reference, then those files should never be removed, only replaced by > newer versions with the same name. > > A different alerting system can surely be devised. For instance, if > there is a file xyz_123.png in the ../graphics directory, the appearance > of a file with the same name in the ../pending_graphics directory should > be enough of an alert without the former being removed. If the engineers > can't/won't leave the former where it is pending DCO of the latter, then > perhaps you should use a different directory as the sourc
RE: Import by Reference Question/Bug ?
Ok, I give - what's a "heroic open"? Can you explain it for newbies like me? -Original Message- From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Richard Melanson Sent: Wednesday, August 19, 2009 8:46 AM To: Richard Melanson; Combs, Richard Cc: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: RE: Import by Reference Question/Bug ? I am not sure who posted the suggestion on using Heroic Open, but it worked. When I open via this method, the Ignore and Skip work fine and I am able to do whatever I need with the file. Thank you Everyone for all your assistance. Rick -Original Message- From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Richard Melanson Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2009 6:31 PM To: Combs, Richard Cc: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: RE: Import by Reference Question/Bug ? Thank you for your input Richard, unfortunately, I am completely dependent on them and their system, when they are changing a file, it is moved to a pending directory. I have no say in this matter. I am just doing the best I can with what I have. Any idea why I still have the problem? Thank you. Rick -Original Message- From: Combs, Richard [mailto:richard.co...@polycom.com] Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2009 6:01 PM To: Richard Melanson Cc: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: RE: Import by Reference Question/Bug ? Richard Melanson wrote: > I use the import by reference function as a kind of alerting system. My > Engineering group has a bunch of directories filled with schematic and > mechanical drawings they convert to jpg or png or pdf. I then import by > reference from these directories into my Frame file to create a drawing > book. If Engineering is changing a drawing, it is taken out of its > original directory and placed into a pending directory waiting for the > DCO and the new drawing to become available. When Engineering moves the > file, this breaks the import by reference link thus alerting me that my > drawing book needs to be updated. > > Its at this point I run into my problem of not being able to get by the > Missing File window. I have also run into the scenario you state below > where multiple files have been moved for updating. I get an updated > drawing placed back into its original directory, Frame recognizes the > new drawing and moves on to the next missing file and sticks, its as if > the Ignore and Skip functions just don't work. OK, I see now. If multiple missing files are all in the same new location, say ../pending_graphics, then in the FM Missing Files dialog, you only need to identify the new path once for the first missing file. FM will look in that same location for the other missing ones, rather than bothering you again. Of course, with your workflow, you'll have to point FM back to the original location once the changed files are DCOed. A PITA, for sure... Personally, I think the workflow leaves a lot to be desired. If a graphics directory is the repository for files imported into FM by reference, then those files should never be removed, only replaced by newer versions with the same name. A different alerting system can surely be devised. For instance, if there is a file xyz_123.png in the ../graphics directory, the appearance of a file with the same name in the ../pending_graphics directory should be enough of an alert without the former being removed. If the engineers can't/won't leave the former where it is pending DCO of the latter, then perhaps you should use a different directory as the source for the graphics. Copy all the files in ../graphics to your /docsource_graphics directory. A script could do that. A script could also look at ../pending_graphics periodically to alert you to upcoming changes. Richard Richard G. Combs Senior Technical Writer Polycom, Inc. richardDOTcombs AT polycomDOTcom 303-223-5111 -- rgcombs AT gmailDOTcom 303-777-0436 -- ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as rmelan...@spirecorp.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/rmelanson%40spirecor p.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as jeff.coatswo...@jonassoftware.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/jeff.coatsworth%40jo nassoftware.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for
RE: Import by Reference Question/Bug ?
I am not sure who posted the suggestion on using Heroic Open, but it worked. When I open via this method, the Ignore and Skip work fine and I am able to do whatever I need with the file. Thank you Everyone for all your assistance. Rick -Original Message- From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Richard Melanson Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2009 6:31 PM To: Combs, Richard Cc: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: RE: Import by Reference Question/Bug ? Thank you for your input Richard, unfortunately, I am completely dependent on them and their system, when they are changing a file, it is moved to a pending directory. I have no say in this matter. I am just doing the best I can with what I have. Any idea why I still have the problem? Thank you. Rick -Original Message- From: Combs, Richard [mailto:richard.co...@polycom.com] Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2009 6:01 PM To: Richard Melanson Cc: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: RE: Import by Reference Question/Bug ? Richard Melanson wrote: > I use the import by reference function as a kind of alerting system. My > Engineering group has a bunch of directories filled with schematic and > mechanical drawings they convert to jpg or png or pdf. I then import by > reference from these directories into my Frame file to create a drawing > book. If Engineering is changing a drawing, it is taken out of its > original directory and placed into a pending directory waiting for the > DCO and the new drawing to become available. When Engineering moves the > file, this breaks the import by reference link thus alerting me that my > drawing book needs to be updated. > > Its at this point I run into my problem of not being able to get by the > Missing File window. I have also run into the scenario you state below > where multiple files have been moved for updating. I get an updated > drawing placed back into its original directory, Frame recognizes the > new drawing and moves on to the next missing file and sticks, its as if > the Ignore and Skip functions just don't work. OK, I see now. If multiple missing files are all in the same new location, say ../pending_graphics, then in the FM Missing Files dialog, you only need to identify the new path once for the first missing file. FM will look in that same location for the other missing ones, rather than bothering you again. Of course, with your workflow, you'll have to point FM back to the original location once the changed files are DCOed. A PITA, for sure... Personally, I think the workflow leaves a lot to be desired. If a graphics directory is the repository for files imported into FM by reference, then those files should never be removed, only replaced by newer versions with the same name. A different alerting system can surely be devised. For instance, if there is a file xyz_123.png in the ../graphics directory, the appearance of a file with the same name in the ../pending_graphics directory should be enough of an alert without the former being removed. If the engineers can't/won't leave the former where it is pending DCO of the latter, then perhaps you should use a different directory as the source for the graphics. Copy all the files in ../graphics to your /docsource_graphics directory. A script could do that. A script could also look at ../pending_graphics periodically to alert you to upcoming changes. Richard Richard G. Combs Senior Technical Writer Polycom, Inc. richardDOTcombs AT polycomDOTcom 303-223-5111 -- rgcombs AT gmailDOTcom 303-777-0436 -- ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as rmelan...@spirecorp.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/rmelanson%40spirecor p.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Import by Reference Question/Bug ?
Thank you for your input Richard, unfortunately, I am completely dependent on them and their system, when they are changing a file, it is moved to a pending directory. I have no say in this matter. I am just doing the best I can with what I have. Any idea why I still have the problem? Thank you. Rick -Original Message- From: Combs, Richard [mailto:richard.co...@polycom.com] Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2009 6:01 PM To: Richard Melanson Cc: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: RE: Import by Reference Question/Bug ? Richard Melanson wrote: > I use the import by reference function as a kind of alerting system. My > Engineering group has a bunch of directories filled with schematic and > mechanical drawings they convert to jpg or png or pdf. I then import by > reference from these directories into my Frame file to create a drawing > book. If Engineering is changing a drawing, it is taken out of its > original directory and placed into a pending directory waiting for the > DCO and the new drawing to become available. When Engineering moves the > file, this breaks the import by reference link thus alerting me that my > drawing book needs to be updated. > > Its at this point I run into my problem of not being able to get by the > Missing File window. I have also run into the scenario you state below > where multiple files have been moved for updating. I get an updated > drawing placed back into its original directory, Frame recognizes the > new drawing and moves on to the next missing file and sticks, its as if > the Ignore and Skip functions just don't work. OK, I see now. If multiple missing files are all in the same new location, say ../pending_graphics, then in the FM Missing Files dialog, you only need to identify the new path once for the first missing file. FM will look in that same location for the other missing ones, rather than bothering you again. Of course, with your workflow, you'll have to point FM back to the original location once the changed files are DCOed. A PITA, for sure... Personally, I think the workflow leaves a lot to be desired. If a graphics directory is the repository for files imported into FM by reference, then those files should never be removed, only replaced by newer versions with the same name. A different alerting system can surely be devised. For instance, if there is a file xyz_123.png in the ../graphics directory, the appearance of a file with the same name in the ../pending_graphics directory should be enough of an alert without the former being removed. If the engineers can't/won't leave the former where it is pending DCO of the latter, then perhaps you should use a different directory as the source for the graphics. Copy all the files in ../graphics to your /docsource_graphics directory. A script could do that. A script could also look at ../pending_graphics periodically to alert you to upcoming changes. Richard Richard G. Combs Senior Technical Writer Polycom, Inc. richardDOTcombs AT polycomDOTcom 303-223-5111 -- rgcombs AT gmailDOTcom 303-777-0436 -- ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Import by Reference Question/Bug ?
Richard Melanson wrote: > I use the import by reference function as a kind of alerting system. My > Engineering group has a bunch of directories filled with schematic and > mechanical drawings they convert to jpg or png or pdf. I then import by > reference from these directories into my Frame file to create a drawing > book. If Engineering is changing a drawing, it is taken out of its > original directory and placed into a pending directory waiting for the > DCO and the new drawing to become available. When Engineering moves the > file, this breaks the import by reference link thus alerting me that my > drawing book needs to be updated. > > Its at this point I run into my problem of not being able to get by the > Missing File window. I have also run into the scenario you state below > where multiple files have been moved for updating. I get an updated > drawing placed back into its original directory, Frame recognizes the > new drawing and moves on to the next missing file and sticks, its as if > the Ignore and Skip functions just don't work. OK, I see now. If multiple missing files are all in the same new location, say ../pending_graphics, then in the FM Missing Files dialog, you only need to identify the new path once for the first missing file. FM will look in that same location for the other missing ones, rather than bothering you again. Of course, with your workflow, you'll have to point FM back to the original location once the changed files are DCOed. A PITA, for sure... Personally, I think the workflow leaves a lot to be desired. If a graphics directory is the repository for files imported into FM by reference, then those files should never be removed, only replaced by newer versions with the same name. A different alerting system can surely be devised. For instance, if there is a file xyz_123.png in the ../graphics directory, the appearance of a file with the same name in the ../pending_graphics directory should be enough of an alert without the former being removed. If the engineers can't/won't leave the former where it is pending DCO of the latter, then perhaps you should use a different directory as the source for the graphics. Copy all the files in ../graphics to your /docsource_graphics directory. A script could do that. A script could also look at ../pending_graphics periodically to alert you to upcoming changes. Richard Richard G. Combs Senior Technical Writer Polycom, Inc. richardDOTcombs AT polycomDOTcom 303-223-5111 -- rgcombs AT gmailDOTcom 303-777-0436 -- ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Import by Reference Question/Bug ?
My apologies Richard, you did state this in an earlier response. I use the import by reference function as a kind of alerting system. My Engineering group has a bunch of directories filled with schematic and mechanical drawings they convert to jpg or png or pdf. I then import by reference from these directories into my Frame file to create a drawing book. If Engineering is changing a drawing, it is taken out of its original directory and placed into a pending directory waiting for the DCO and the new drawing to become available. When Engineering moves the file, this breaks the import by reference link thus alerting me that my drawing book needs to be updated. Its at this point I run into my problem of not being able to get by the Missing File window. I have also run into the scenario you state below where multiple files have been moved for updating. I get an updated drawing placed back into its original directory, Frame recognizes the new drawing and moves on to the next missing file and sticks, its as if the Ignore and Skip functions just don't work. Rick -Original Message- From: Combs, Richard [mailto:richard.co...@polycom.com] Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2009 4:13 PM To: Richard Melanson Cc: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: RE: Import by Reference Question/Bug ? Richard Melanson wrote: > Boy do I feel stupid :-) > > I am trying to open a file to save it as a MIF file to "clean out any > impurities" that I am unable to open because of the impurities. I cannot > get by the Missing File box! HELP :-) Um, you can't open it because it can't find one or more graphics imported by reference, right? Well, I hate to repeat myself, but: "I have to wonder why the file path or name of your imported-by-reference drawings keeps changing. What is it about your workflow that causes this problem to keep coming up? Maybe you can fix that part so this just doesn't happen anymore." Or to deal specifically with the immediate problem: 1) In the Missing File dialog, FM tells you the path and name of the file that's missing. Make a note of it, and then cancel. 2) Put a file of the correct name in the correct location -- preferably the actual file that should be used, but any file of that type will do. 3) Try opening the FM file again. If the Missing File dialog reports another missing file, try the Ignore option, and if that doesn't work, repeat step 2. 4) Repeat step 3 until the FM file opens. Once it's open, you can try the MIF wash business, but I strongly suggest you instead focus on finding out why you keep having these missing file problems and fixing that. HTH! Richard Richard G. Combs Senior Technical Writer Polycom, Inc. richardDOTcombs AT polycomDOTcom 303-223-5111 -- rgcombs AT gmailDOTcom 303-777-0436 -- ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Import by Reference Question/Bug ?
Richard Melanson wrote: > Boy do I feel stupid :-) > > I am trying to open a file to save it as a MIF file to "clean out any > impurities" that I am unable to open because of the impurities. I cannot > get by the Missing File box! HELP :-) Um, you can't open it because it can't find one or more graphics imported by reference, right? Well, I hate to repeat myself, but: "I have to wonder why the file path or name of your imported-by-reference drawings keeps changing. What is it about your workflow that causes this problem to keep coming up? Maybe you can fix that part so this just doesn't happen anymore." Or to deal specifically with the immediate problem: 1) In the Missing File dialog, FM tells you the path and name of the file that's missing. Make a note of it, and then cancel. 2) Put a file of the correct name in the correct location -- preferably the actual file that should be used, but any file of that type will do. 3) Try opening the FM file again. If the Missing File dialog reports another missing file, try the Ignore option, and if that doesn't work, repeat step 2. 4) Repeat step 3 until the FM file opens. Once it's open, you can try the MIF wash business, but I strongly suggest you instead focus on finding out why you keep having these missing file problems and fixing that. HTH! Richard Richard G. Combs Senior Technical Writer Polycom, Inc. richardDOTcombs AT polycomDOTcom 303-223-5111 -- rgcombs AT gmailDOTcom 303-777-0436 -- ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Import by Reference Question/Bug ?
Oops, l should be the one feeling stupid for recommending the MIF save when the problem is that you can't successfully open the file. Duh! Will "heroic open" get you past the "Missing File" dialog? Or another approach to try is using File>Import>File to import the content of the reluctant file into a clean, working template file. -Fred Ridder > Subject: RE: Import by Reference Question/Bug ? > Date: Tue, 18 Aug 2009 15:44:42 -0400 > From: rmelan...@spirecorp.com > To: rmelan...@spirecorp.com; art.campb...@gmail.com; kmcdan...@pavtech.com > CC: framers@lists.frameusers.com; feimin.lore...@onsemi.com > > Boy do I feel stupid :-) > > I am trying to open a file to save it as a MIF file to "clean out any > impurities" that I am unable to open because of the impurities. I cannot get > by the Missing File box! HELP :-) > > -Original Message- > From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com > [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Richard Melanson > Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2009 3:34 PM > To: Art Campbell; Kelly McDaniel > Cc: framers@lists.frameusers.com; Fei Min Lorente > Subject: RE: Import by Reference Question/Bug ? > > I still have my copy of MIF2Go, I just don't know if there were any changes > over the years, and the menu option is not there. But I will do the Save as > Mif from Framemaker and see if that addresses the problem. > Rick > > -Original Message- > From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com > [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Art Campbell > Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2009 3:27 PM > To: Kelly McDaniel > Cc: framers@lists.frameusers.com; Fei Min Lorente > Subject: Re: Import by Reference Question/Bug ? > > No, SaveAs MIF and the Omsys Wash As MIF menu entry do the same thing. > Only difference is that SaveAs takes a couple manual steps and the menu is a > single click. > > Art > > Art Campbell > art.campb...@gmail.com > "... In my opinion, there's nothing in this world beats a '52 Vincent and a > redheaded girl." -- Richard Thompson > No disclaimers apply. > DoD 358 > > > > On Tue, Aug 18, 2009 at 3:14 PM, Kelly McDaniel wrote: > > I always thought that Wash as MIF could also mean, Save an FM file as > > a MIF file within FM, then open it in FM. It's a habit from the > > previous century. Am I misinformed?...Kelly. > > > > -----Original Message- > > From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com > > [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Fei Min > > Lorente > > Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2009 1:56 PM > > To: framers@lists.frameusers.com > > Subject: RE: Import by Reference Question/Bug ? > > > > Hi Rick: > > > > As far as I know, you have to install Mif2Go to get the "Wash via MIF" > > option on the File menu. If you don't still have your copy, you could > > download the trial version and see if that feature works for you. > > > > Fei Min > > > > -Original Message- > > From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com > > [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Richard > > Melanson > > Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2009 2:45 PM > > To: Fred Ridder; dspre...@yahoo.com; richard.co...@polycom.com; > > framers@lists.frameusers.com > > Subject: RE: Import by Reference Question/Bug ? > > > > I was unemployed for a while a few years ago and through the > > generosity of Omni Systems, I received a copy of MIF2Go. After the > > response below, "wash as MIF" caught my attention I Googled it. This > > appears to be a function of MIF2Go, I am probably stating what > > everyone already knows > > :-) Anyway, I do NOT have the "wash as MIF" option in the file menu > > of Frame. How do I get it? > > Rick > > > > > > > > From: Fred Ridder [mailto:docu...@hotmail.com] > > Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2009 1:32 PM > > To: dspre...@yahoo.com; Richard Melanson; richard.co...@polycom.com; > > framers@lists.frameusers.com > > Subject: RE: Import by Reference Question/Bug ? > > > > > > Before resorting to what Dov Isaacs calls "reinstallsheimer's > > disease", I'd try a quick "wash as MIF" operation on the offending > > file. It seems much more likely to me that something has become > > corrupt in the one document file that Rick is having problems with > > rather than FrameMaker itself having become corrupted. > > > > -Fred Ridder ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Import by Reference Question/Bug ?
For the record, the Wash as MIF command works perfectly in the free trial version of Mif2Go. The only thing affected by the trial version vs. the fully licensed version is that the word order is randomized in many of the converted output formats (e.g. HTML Help) so that you cannot use the trial version to produce real deliverables. The utility functions work fine. Manual washing is only a few simple steps (saving as MIF, then opening the MIF and saving as .fm), but when you have Wash via MIF in the menu you get really lazy... -Fred Ridder > Subject: RE: Import by Reference Question/Bug ? > Date: Tue, 18 Aug 2009 14:31:03 -0500 > From: jim.pink...@voith.com > To: feimin.lore...@onsemi.com; framers@lists.frameusers.com > > Yes, that's right. Then you'll get the following added to your menu to > simplify the whole MIF-saving and reopening process: > http://tinypic.com/r/98ht00/3. > > Jim > > -Original Message- > From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com > [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Fei Min > Lorente > Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2009 1:56 PM > To: framers@lists.frameusers.com > Subject: RE: Import by Reference Question/Bug ? > > Hi Rick: > > As far as I know, you have to install Mif2Go to get the "Wash via MIF" > option on the File menu. If you don't still have your copy, you could > download the trial version and see if that feature works for you. > > Fei Min > > -Original Message- > From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com > [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Richard > Melanson > Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2009 2:45 PM > To: Fred Ridder; dspre...@yahoo.com; richard.co...@polycom.com; > framers@lists.frameusers.com > Subject: RE: Import by Reference Question/Bug ? > > I was unemployed for a while a few years ago and through the generosity > of Omni Systems, I received a copy of MIF2Go. After the response below, > "wash as MIF" caught my attention I Googled it. This appears to be a > function of MIF2Go, I am probably stating what everyone already knows > :-) Anyway, I do NOT have the "wash as MIF" option in the file menu of > Frame. How do I get it? > Rick > > > > From: Fred Ridder [mailto:docu...@hotmail.com] > Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2009 1:32 PM > To: dspre...@yahoo.com; Richard Melanson; richard.co...@polycom.com; > framers@lists.frameusers.com > Subject: RE: Import by Reference Question/Bug ? > > > Before resorting to what Dov Isaacs calls "reinstallsheimer's disease", > I'd try a quick "wash as MIF" operation on the offending file. It seems > much more likely to me that something has become corrupt in the one > document file that Rick is having problems with rather than FrameMaker > itself having become corrupted. > > -Fred Ridder ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Import by Reference Question/Bug ?
Boy do I feel stupid :-) I am trying to open a file to save it as a MIF file to "clean out any impurities" that I am unable to open because of the impurities. I cannot get by the Missing File box! HELP :-) -Original Message- From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Richard Melanson Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2009 3:34 PM To: Art Campbell; Kelly McDaniel Cc: framers@lists.frameusers.com; Fei Min Lorente Subject: RE: Import by Reference Question/Bug ? I still have my copy of MIF2Go, I just don't know if there were any changes over the years, and the menu option is not there. But I will do the Save as Mif from Framemaker and see if that addresses the problem. Rick -Original Message- From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Art Campbell Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2009 3:27 PM To: Kelly McDaniel Cc: framers@lists.frameusers.com; Fei Min Lorente Subject: Re: Import by Reference Question/Bug ? No, SaveAs MIF and the Omsys Wash As MIF menu entry do the same thing. Only difference is that SaveAs takes a couple manual steps and the menu is a single click. Art Art Campbell art.campb...@gmail.com "... In my opinion, there's nothing in this world beats a '52 Vincent and a redheaded girl." -- Richard Thompson No disclaimers apply. DoD 358 On Tue, Aug 18, 2009 at 3:14 PM, Kelly McDaniel wrote: > I always thought that Wash as MIF could also mean, Save an FM file as > a MIF file within FM, then open it in FM. It's a habit from the > previous century. Am I misinformed?...Kelly. > > -Original Message- > From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com > [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Fei Min > Lorente > Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2009 1:56 PM > To: framers@lists.frameusers.com > Subject: RE: Import by Reference Question/Bug ? > > Hi Rick: > > As far as I know, you have to install Mif2Go to get the "Wash via MIF" > option on the File menu. If you don't still have your copy, you could > download the trial version and see if that feature works for you. > > Fei Min > > -Original Message- > From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com > [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Richard > Melanson > Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2009 2:45 PM > To: Fred Ridder; dspre...@yahoo.com; richard.co...@polycom.com; > framers@lists.frameusers.com > Subject: RE: Import by Reference Question/Bug ? > > I was unemployed for a while a few years ago and through the > generosity of Omni Systems, I received a copy of MIF2Go. After the > response below, "wash as MIF" caught my attention I Googled it. This > appears to be a function of MIF2Go, I am probably stating what > everyone already knows > :-) Anyway, I do NOT have the "wash as MIF" option in the file menu > of Frame. How do I get it? > Rick > > > > From: Fred Ridder [mailto:docu...@hotmail.com] > Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2009 1:32 PM > To: dspre...@yahoo.com; Richard Melanson; richard.co...@polycom.com; > framers@lists.frameusers.com > Subject: RE: Import by Reference Question/Bug ? > > > Before resorting to what Dov Isaacs calls "reinstallsheimer's > disease", I'd try a quick "wash as MIF" operation on the offending > file. It seems much more likely to me that something has become > corrupt in the one document file that Rick is having problems with > rather than FrameMaker itself having become corrupted. > > -Fred Ridder > > > >> From: dspre...@yahoo.com >> To: rmelan...@spirecorp.com; richard.co...@polycom.com; > framers@lists.frameusers.com >> Subject: RE: Import by Reference Question/Bug ? >> Date: Tue, 18 Aug 2009 11:22:38 -0500 >> >> Rick, >> On your first email, I opened a graphic and made some edits. I did >> not change the graphic filename. Then open the corresponding Frame >> file > without >> any problems. >> >> I renamed the graphic file and reopened the Frame book. When it ran > into the >> missing graphic, I selected Ignore and it just ignored that graphic > and >> opened the file. I closed the Frame file and tried it again and > selected >> Skip and got the same response. >> >> This tends to tell me that something in Frame has gotten corrupted. > You >> might try reinstalling, at least the latest patch (p277) and then try >> opening the file. If this doesn't fix it, then I would re
RE: Import by Reference Question/Bug ?
I still have my copy of MIF2Go, I just don't know if there were any changes over the years, and the menu option is not there. But I will do the Save as Mif from Framemaker and see if that addresses the problem. Rick -Original Message- From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Art Campbell Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2009 3:27 PM To: Kelly McDaniel Cc: framers@lists.frameusers.com; Fei Min Lorente Subject: Re: Import by Reference Question/Bug ? No, SaveAs MIF and the Omsys Wash As MIF menu entry do the same thing. Only difference is that SaveAs takes a couple manual steps and the menu is a single click. Art Art Campbell art.campb...@gmail.com "... In my opinion, there's nothing in this world beats a '52 Vincent and a redheaded girl." -- Richard Thompson No disclaimers apply. DoD 358 On Tue, Aug 18, 2009 at 3:14 PM, Kelly McDaniel wrote: > I always thought that Wash as MIF could also mean, Save an FM file as > a MIF file within FM, then open it in FM. It's a habit from the > previous century. Am I misinformed?...Kelly. > > -Original Message- > From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com > [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Fei Min > Lorente > Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2009 1:56 PM > To: framers@lists.frameusers.com > Subject: RE: Import by Reference Question/Bug ? > > Hi Rick: > > As far as I know, you have to install Mif2Go to get the "Wash via MIF" > option on the File menu. If you don't still have your copy, you could > download the trial version and see if that feature works for you. > > Fei Min > > -Original Message- > From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com > [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Richard > Melanson > Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2009 2:45 PM > To: Fred Ridder; dspre...@yahoo.com; richard.co...@polycom.com; > framers@lists.frameusers.com > Subject: RE: Import by Reference Question/Bug ? > > I was unemployed for a while a few years ago and through the > generosity of Omni Systems, I received a copy of MIF2Go. After the > response below, "wash as MIF" caught my attention I Googled it. This > appears to be a function of MIF2Go, I am probably stating what > everyone already knows > :-) Anyway, I do NOT have the "wash as MIF" option in the file menu > of Frame. How do I get it? > Rick > > > > From: Fred Ridder [mailto:docu...@hotmail.com] > Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2009 1:32 PM > To: dspre...@yahoo.com; Richard Melanson; richard.co...@polycom.com; > framers@lists.frameusers.com > Subject: RE: Import by Reference Question/Bug ? > > > Before resorting to what Dov Isaacs calls "reinstallsheimer's > disease", I'd try a quick "wash as MIF" operation on the offending > file. It seems much more likely to me that something has become > corrupt in the one document file that Rick is having problems with > rather than FrameMaker itself having become corrupted. > > -Fred Ridder > > > >> From: dspre...@yahoo.com >> To: rmelan...@spirecorp.com; richard.co...@polycom.com; > framers@lists.frameusers.com >> Subject: RE: Import by Reference Question/Bug ? >> Date: Tue, 18 Aug 2009 11:22:38 -0500 >> >> Rick, >> On your first email, I opened a graphic and made some edits. I did >> not change the graphic filename. Then open the corresponding Frame >> file > without >> any problems. >> >> I renamed the graphic file and reopened the Frame book. When it ran > into the >> missing graphic, I selected Ignore and it just ignored that graphic > and >> opened the file. I closed the Frame file and tried it again and > selected >> Skip and got the same response. >> >> This tends to tell me that something in Frame has gotten corrupted. > You >> might try reinstalling, at least the latest patch (p277) and then try >> opening the file. If this doesn't fix it, then I would re0install > Frame8 and >> then, of course, all updates. >> >> -Original Message- >> From: Richard Melanson [mailto:rmelan...@spirecorp.com] >> Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2009 11:04 AM >> To: David Spreadbury; Combs, Richard; framers@lists.frameusers.com >> Subject: RE: Import by Reference Question/Bug ? >> >> Thank you for your quick response David. I cant get by the Missing > File >> window. I can click on ignore or skip 100 times and Frame just keeps >> redi
RE: Import by Reference Question/Bug ?
Yes, that's right. Then you'll get the following added to your menu to simplify the whole MIF-saving and reopening process: http://tinypic.com/r/98ht00/3. Jim -Original Message- From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Fei Min Lorente Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2009 1:56 PM To: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: RE: Import by Reference Question/Bug ? Hi Rick: As far as I know, you have to install Mif2Go to get the "Wash via MIF" option on the File menu. If you don't still have your copy, you could download the trial version and see if that feature works for you. Fei Min -Original Message- From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Richard Melanson Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2009 2:45 PM To: Fred Ridder; dspre...@yahoo.com; richard.co...@polycom.com; framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: RE: Import by Reference Question/Bug ? I was unemployed for a while a few years ago and through the generosity of Omni Systems, I received a copy of MIF2Go. After the response below, "wash as MIF" caught my attention I Googled it. This appears to be a function of MIF2Go, I am probably stating what everyone already knows :-) Anyway, I do NOT have the "wash as MIF" option in the file menu of Frame. How do I get it? Rick From: Fred Ridder [mailto:docu...@hotmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2009 1:32 PM To: dspre...@yahoo.com; Richard Melanson; richard.co...@polycom.com; framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: RE: Import by Reference Question/Bug ? Before resorting to what Dov Isaacs calls "reinstallsheimer's disease", I'd try a quick "wash as MIF" operation on the offending file. It seems much more likely to me that something has become corrupt in the one document file that Rick is having problems with rather than FrameMaker itself having become corrupted. -Fred Ridder > From: dspre...@yahoo.com > To: rmelan...@spirecorp.com; richard.co...@polycom.com; framers@lists.frameusers.com > Subject: RE: Import by Reference Question/Bug ? > Date: Tue, 18 Aug 2009 11:22:38 -0500 > > Rick, > On your first email, I opened a graphic and made some edits. I did not > change the graphic filename. Then open the corresponding Frame file without > any problems. > > I renamed the graphic file and reopened the Frame book. When it ran into the > missing graphic, I selected Ignore and it just ignored that graphic and > opened the file. I closed the Frame file and tried it again and selected > Skip and got the same response. > > This tends to tell me that something in Frame has gotten corrupted. You > might try reinstalling, at least the latest patch (p277) and then try > opening the file. If this doesn't fix it, then I would re0install Frame8 and > then, of course, all updates. > > -Original Message- > From: Richard Melanson [mailto:rmelan...@spirecorp.com] > Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2009 11:04 AM > To: David Spreadbury; Combs, Richard; framers@lists.frameusers.com > Subject: RE: Import by Reference Question/Bug ? > > Thank you for your quick response David. I cant get by the Missing File > window. I can click on ignore or skip 100 times and Frame just keeps > redisplaying the Missing File window. Frame will not allow me to skip or > ignore, I cannot get access to the Frame file unless I update to the new > drawing. > > Rick > > -Original Message----- > From: David Spreadbury [mailto:dspre...@yahoo.com] > Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2009 11:59 AM > To: Richard Melanson; 'Combs, Richard'; framers@lists.frameusers.com > Subject: RE: Import by Reference Question/Bug ? > > Rick, > The only way that I can see is that something in the path or filename of > the graphics must be different or you aren't saving the Frame file once > you have redirected the file to point to the proper graphic file > location. > > When you open a Frame file, that can't locate a referenced graphic, and > you select to skip this file, the next time you open that particular > Frame file, it will again ask for the correct graphic file location, > even if you have saved the file. > > Check the path and filename of the referenced graphic files. The > complete path and filename MUST remain identical. > > -Original Message- > From: Richard Melanson [mailto:rmelan...@spirecorp.com] > Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2009 10:34 AM > To: David Spreadbury; Combs, Richard; framers@lists.frameusers.com > Subject: Import by Reference Question/Bug ? > > Hi Framers, > > I have Frame 8 with all the updates/patches running on a WinXp system > with 3gig RAM, 500gig HD, and a 2GHz Core 2 C
Re: Import by Reference Question/Bug ?
No, SaveAs MIF and the Omsys Wash As MIF menu entry do the same thing. Only difference is that SaveAs takes a couple manual steps and the menu is a single click. Art Art Campbell art.campb...@gmail.com "... In my opinion, there's nothing in this world beats a '52 Vincent and a redheaded girl." -- Richard Thompson No disclaimers apply. DoD 358 On Tue, Aug 18, 2009 at 3:14 PM, Kelly McDaniel wrote: > I always thought that Wash as MIF could also mean, Save an FM file as a > MIF file within FM, then open it in FM. It's a habit from the previous > century. Am I misinformed?...Kelly. > > -Original Message- > From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com > [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Fei Min > Lorente > Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2009 1:56 PM > To: framers@lists.frameusers.com > Subject: RE: Import by Reference Question/Bug ? > > Hi Rick: > > As far as I know, you have to install Mif2Go to get the "Wash via MIF" > option on the File menu. If you don't still have your copy, you could > download the trial version and see if that feature works for you. > > Fei Min > > -Original Message- > From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com > [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Richard > Melanson > Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2009 2:45 PM > To: Fred Ridder; dspre...@yahoo.com; richard.co...@polycom.com; > framers@lists.frameusers.com > Subject: RE: Import by Reference Question/Bug ? > > I was unemployed for a while a few years ago and through the generosity > of Omni Systems, I received a copy of MIF2Go. After the response below, > "wash as MIF" caught my attention I Googled it. This appears to be a > function of MIF2Go, I am probably stating what everyone already knows > :-) Anyway, I do NOT have the "wash as MIF" option in the file menu of > Frame. How do I get it? > Rick > > > > From: Fred Ridder [mailto:docu...@hotmail.com] > Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2009 1:32 PM > To: dspre...@yahoo.com; Richard Melanson; richard.co...@polycom.com; > framers@lists.frameusers.com > Subject: RE: Import by Reference Question/Bug ? > > > Before resorting to what Dov Isaacs calls "reinstallsheimer's disease", > I'd try a quick "wash as MIF" operation on the offending file. It seems > much more likely to me that something has become corrupt in the one > document file that Rick is having problems with rather than FrameMaker > itself having become corrupted. > > -Fred Ridder > > > >> From: dspre...@yahoo.com >> To: rmelan...@spirecorp.com; richard.co...@polycom.com; > framers@lists.frameusers.com >> Subject: RE: Import by Reference Question/Bug ? >> Date: Tue, 18 Aug 2009 11:22:38 -0500 >> >> Rick, >> On your first email, I opened a graphic and made some edits. I did not >> change the graphic filename. Then open the corresponding Frame file > without >> any problems. >> >> I renamed the graphic file and reopened the Frame book. When it ran > into the >> missing graphic, I selected Ignore and it just ignored that graphic > and >> opened the file. I closed the Frame file and tried it again and > selected >> Skip and got the same response. >> >> This tends to tell me that something in Frame has gotten corrupted. > You >> might try reinstalling, at least the latest patch (p277) and then try >> opening the file. If this doesn't fix it, then I would re0install > Frame8 and >> then, of course, all updates. >> >> -Original Message- >> From: Richard Melanson [mailto:rmelan...@spirecorp.com] >> Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2009 11:04 AM >> To: David Spreadbury; Combs, Richard; framers@lists.frameusers.com >> Subject: RE: Import by Reference Question/Bug ? >> >> Thank you for your quick response David. I cant get by the Missing > File >> window. I can click on ignore or skip 100 times and Frame just keeps >> redisplaying the Missing File window. Frame will not allow me to skip > or >> ignore, I cannot get access to the Frame file unless I update to the > new >> drawing. >> >> Rick >> >> -Original Message- >> From: David Spreadbury [mailto:dspre...@yahoo.com] >> Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2009 11:59 AM >> To: Richard Melanson; 'Combs, Richard'; framers@lists.frameusers.com >> Subject: RE: Import by Reference Question/Bug ? >> >> Rick, >> The only way that I can see i
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I always thought that Wash as MIF could also mean, Save an FM file as a MIF file within FM, then open it in FM. It's a habit from the previous century. Am I misinformed?...Kelly. -Original Message- From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Fei Min Lorente Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2009 1:56 PM To: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: RE: Import by Reference Question/Bug ? Hi Rick: As far as I know, you have to install Mif2Go to get the "Wash via MIF" option on the File menu. If you don't still have your copy, you could download the trial version and see if that feature works for you. Fei Min -Original Message- From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Richard Melanson Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2009 2:45 PM To: Fred Ridder; dspre...@yahoo.com; richard.co...@polycom.com; framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: RE: Import by Reference Question/Bug ? I was unemployed for a while a few years ago and through the generosity of Omni Systems, I received a copy of MIF2Go. After the response below, "wash as MIF" caught my attention I Googled it. This appears to be a function of MIF2Go, I am probably stating what everyone already knows :-) Anyway, I do NOT have the "wash as MIF" option in the file menu of Frame. How do I get it? Rick From: Fred Ridder [mailto:docu...@hotmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2009 1:32 PM To: dspre...@yahoo.com; Richard Melanson; richard.co...@polycom.com; framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: RE: Import by Reference Question/Bug ? Before resorting to what Dov Isaacs calls "reinstallsheimer's disease", I'd try a quick "wash as MIF" operation on the offending file. It seems much more likely to me that something has become corrupt in the one document file that Rick is having problems with rather than FrameMaker itself having become corrupted. -Fred Ridder > From: dspre...@yahoo.com > To: rmelan...@spirecorp.com; richard.co...@polycom.com; framers@lists.frameusers.com > Subject: RE: Import by Reference Question/Bug ? > Date: Tue, 18 Aug 2009 11:22:38 -0500 > > Rick, > On your first email, I opened a graphic and made some edits. I did not > change the graphic filename. Then open the corresponding Frame file without > any problems. > > I renamed the graphic file and reopened the Frame book. When it ran into the > missing graphic, I selected Ignore and it just ignored that graphic and > opened the file. I closed the Frame file and tried it again and selected > Skip and got the same response. > > This tends to tell me that something in Frame has gotten corrupted. You > might try reinstalling, at least the latest patch (p277) and then try > opening the file. If this doesn't fix it, then I would re0install Frame8 and > then, of course, all updates. > > -Original Message- > From: Richard Melanson [mailto:rmelan...@spirecorp.com] > Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2009 11:04 AM > To: David Spreadbury; Combs, Richard; framers@lists.frameusers.com > Subject: RE: Import by Reference Question/Bug ? > > Thank you for your quick response David. I cant get by the Missing File > window. I can click on ignore or skip 100 times and Frame just keeps > redisplaying the Missing File window. Frame will not allow me to skip or > ignore, I cannot get access to the Frame file unless I update to the new > drawing. > > Rick > > -Original Message- > From: David Spreadbury [mailto:dspre...@yahoo.com] > Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2009 11:59 AM > To: Richard Melanson; 'Combs, Richard'; framers@lists.frameusers.com > Subject: RE: Import by Reference Question/Bug ? > > Rick, > The only way that I can see is that something in the path or filename of > the graphics must be different or you aren't saving the Frame file once > you have redirected the file to point to the proper graphic file > location. > > When you open a Frame file, that can't locate a referenced graphic, and > you select to skip this file, the next time you open that particular > Frame file, it will again ask for the correct graphic file location, > even if you have saved the file. > > Check the path and filename of the referenced graphic files. The > complete path and filename MUST remain identical. > > -Original Message- > From: Richard Melanson [mailto:rmelan...@spirecorp.com] > Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2009 10:34 AM > To: David Spreadbury; Combs, Richard; framers@lists.frameusers.com > Subject: Import by Reference Question/Bug ? > > Hi Framers, > > I have Frame 8 with all the updates/patches running on a WinXp system > with 3gig RAM, 500gig HD, and a 2GHz
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Hi Rick: As far as I know, you have to install Mif2Go to get the "Wash via MIF" option on the File menu. If you don't still have your copy, you could download the trial version and see if that feature works for you. Fei Min -Original Message- From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Richard Melanson Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2009 2:45 PM To: Fred Ridder; dspre...@yahoo.com; richard.co...@polycom.com; framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: RE: Import by Reference Question/Bug ? I was unemployed for a while a few years ago and through the generosity of Omni Systems, I received a copy of MIF2Go. After the response below, "wash as MIF" caught my attention I Googled it. This appears to be a function of MIF2Go, I am probably stating what everyone already knows :-) Anyway, I do NOT have the "wash as MIF" option in the file menu of Frame. How do I get it? Rick From: Fred Ridder [mailto:docu...@hotmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2009 1:32 PM To: dspre...@yahoo.com; Richard Melanson; richard.co...@polycom.com; framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: RE: Import by Reference Question/Bug ? Before resorting to what Dov Isaacs calls "reinstallsheimer's disease", I'd try a quick "wash as MIF" operation on the offending file. It seems much more likely to me that something has become corrupt in the one document file that Rick is having problems with rather than FrameMaker itself having become corrupted. -Fred Ridder > From: dspre...@yahoo.com > To: rmelan...@spirecorp.com; richard.co...@polycom.com; framers@lists.frameusers.com > Subject: RE: Import by Reference Question/Bug ? > Date: Tue, 18 Aug 2009 11:22:38 -0500 > > Rick, > On your first email, I opened a graphic and made some edits. I did not > change the graphic filename. Then open the corresponding Frame file without > any problems. > > I renamed the graphic file and reopened the Frame book. When it ran into the > missing graphic, I selected Ignore and it just ignored that graphic and > opened the file. I closed the Frame file and tried it again and selected > Skip and got the same response. > > This tends to tell me that something in Frame has gotten corrupted. You > might try reinstalling, at least the latest patch (p277) and then try > opening the file. If this doesn't fix it, then I would re0install Frame8 and > then, of course, all updates. > > -Original Message- > From: Richard Melanson [mailto:rmelan...@spirecorp.com] > Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2009 11:04 AM > To: David Spreadbury; Combs, Richard; framers@lists.frameusers.com > Subject: RE: Import by Reference Question/Bug ? > > Thank you for your quick response David. I cant get by the Missing File > window. I can click on ignore or skip 100 times and Frame just keeps > redisplaying the Missing File window. Frame will not allow me to skip or > ignore, I cannot get access to the Frame file unless I update to the new > drawing. > > Rick > > -Original Message- > From: David Spreadbury [mailto:dspre...@yahoo.com] > Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2009 11:59 AM > To: Richard Melanson; 'Combs, Richard'; framers@lists.frameusers.com > Subject: RE: Import by Reference Question/Bug ? > > Rick, > The only way that I can see is that something in the path or filename of > the graphics must be different or you aren't saving the Frame file once > you have redirected the file to point to the proper graphic file > location. > > When you open a Frame file, that can't locate a referenced graphic, and > you select to skip this file, the next time you open that particular > Frame file, it will again ask for the correct graphic file location, > even if you have saved the file. > > Check the path and filename of the referenced graphic files. The > complete path and filename MUST remain identical. > > -Original Message- > From: Richard Melanson [mailto:rmelan...@spirecorp.com] > Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2009 10:34 AM > To: David Spreadbury; Combs, Richard; framers@lists.frameusers.com > Subject: Import by Reference Question/Bug ? > > Hi Framers, > > I have Frame 8 with all the updates/patches running on a WinXp system > with 3gig RAM, 500gig HD, and a 2GHz Core 2 CPU. I have about 55 > drawings imported by reference in a single Frame file. When one or more > of the imported by reference drawings changes, Frame gives the option to > update the path to the drawing or to skip the file or ignore all missing > files. When I try to select skip this file or ignore all missing files, > frame just redisplays the Missing File window. I have made sure Frame is > not looking for a diff
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I was unemployed for a while a few years ago and through the generosity of Omni Systems, I received a copy of MIF2Go. After the response below, "wash as MIF" caught my attention I Googled it. This appears to be a function of MIF2Go, I am probably stating what everyone already knows :-) Anyway, I do NOT have the "wash as MIF" option in the file menu of Frame. How do I get it? Rick From: Fred Ridder [mailto:docu...@hotmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2009 1:32 PM To: dspre...@yahoo.com; Richard Melanson; richard.co...@polycom.com; framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: RE: Import by Reference Question/Bug ? Before resorting to what Dov Isaacs calls "reinstallsheimer's disease", I'd try a quick "wash as MIF" operation on the offending file. It seems much more likely to me that something has become corrupt in the one document file that Rick is having problems with rather than FrameMaker itself having become corrupted. -Fred Ridder > From: dspre...@yahoo.com > To: rmelan...@spirecorp.com; richard.co...@polycom.com; framers@lists.frameusers.com > Subject: RE: Import by Reference Question/Bug ? > Date: Tue, 18 Aug 2009 11:22:38 -0500 > > Rick, > On your first email, I opened a graphic and made some edits. I did not > change the graphic filename. Then open the corresponding Frame file without > any problems. > > I renamed the graphic file and reopened the Frame book. When it ran into the > missing graphic, I selected Ignore and it just ignored that graphic and > opened the file. I closed the Frame file and tried it again and selected > Skip and got the same response. > > This tends to tell me that something in Frame has gotten corrupted. You > might try reinstalling, at least the latest patch (p277) and then try > opening the file. If this doesn't fix it, then I would re0install Frame8 and > then, of course, all updates. > > -Original Message- > From: Richard Melanson [mailto:rmelan...@spirecorp.com] > Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2009 11:04 AM > To: David Spreadbury; Combs, Richard; framers@lists.frameusers.com > Subject: RE: Import by Reference Question/Bug ? > > Thank you for your quick response David. I cant get by the Missing File > window. I can click on ignore or skip 100 times and Frame just keeps > redisplaying the Missing File window. Frame will not allow me to skip or > ignore, I cannot get access to the Frame file unless I update to the new > drawing. > > Rick > > -Original Message- > From: David Spreadbury [mailto:dspre...@yahoo.com] > Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2009 11:59 AM > To: Richard Melanson; 'Combs, Richard'; framers@lists.frameusers.com > Subject: RE: Import by Reference Question/Bug ? > > Rick, > The only way that I can see is that something in the path or filename of > the graphics must be different or you aren't saving the Frame file once > you have redirected the file to point to the proper graphic file > location. > > When you open a Frame file, that can't locate a referenced graphic, and > you select to skip this file, the next time you open that particular > Frame file, it will again ask for the correct graphic file location, > even if you have saved the file. > > Check the path and filename of the referenced graphic files. The > complete path and filename MUST remain identical. > > -Original Message- > From: Richard Melanson [mailto:rmelan...@spirecorp.com] > Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2009 10:34 AM > To: David Spreadbury; Combs, Richard; framers@lists.frameusers.com > Subject: Import by Reference Question/Bug ? > > Hi Framers, > > I have Frame 8 with all the updates/patches running on a WinXp system > with 3gig RAM, 500gig HD, and a 2GHz Core 2 CPU. I have about 55 > drawings imported by reference in a single Frame file. When one or more > of the imported by reference drawings changes, Frame gives the option to > update the path to the drawing or to skip the file or ignore all missing > files. When I try to select skip this file or ignore all missing files, > frame just redisplays the Missing File window. I have made sure Frame is > not looking for a different drawing, I cannot get Frame to skip or > ignore. Anyone ever had this problem, thank you all in advance for your > help. > > Rick > > > > ___ > > > You are currently subscribed to Framers as docu...@hotmail.com. > > Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. > > To unsubscribe send a blank email to > framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com > or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/docudoc%40hotmail.co m > > Send admi
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"In the Missing File dialog, you're selecting Ignore All Missing Files and clicking Continue, and FM just keeps displaying the dialog? That's decidedly odd... " YES, exactly ! Or skip. -Original Message- From: Combs, Richard [mailto:richard.co...@polycom.com] Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2009 12:36 PM To: Richard Melanson; David Spreadbury; framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: RE: Import by Reference Question/Bug ? Richard Melanson wrote: > Thank you for your quick response David. I cant get by the Missing File > window. I can click on ignore or skip 100 times and Frame just keeps > redisplaying the Missing File window. Frame will not allow me to skip or > ignore, I cannot get access to the Frame file unless I update to the new > drawing. In the Misssing File dialog, you're selecting Ignore All Missing Files and clicking Continue, and FM just keeps displaying the dialog? That's decidedly odd... OTOH, I have to wonder why the file path or name of your imported-by-reference drawings keeps changing. What is it about your workflow that causes this problem to keep coming up? Maybe you can fix that part so this just doesn't happen anymore. Richard Richard G. Combs Senior Technical Writer Polycom, Inc. richardDOTcombs AT polycomDOTcom 303-223-5111 -- rgcombs AT gmailDOTcom 303-777-0436 -- ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
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Before resorting to what Dov Isaacs calls "reinstallsheimer's disease", I'd try a quick "wash as MIF" operation on the offending file. It seems much more likely to me that something has become corrupt in the one document file that Rick is having problems with rather than FrameMaker itself having become corrupted. -Fred Ridder > From: dspre...@yahoo.com > To: rmelan...@spirecorp.com; richard.co...@polycom.com; > framers@lists.frameusers.com > Subject: RE: Import by Reference Question/Bug ? > Date: Tue, 18 Aug 2009 11:22:38 -0500 > > Rick, > On your first email, I opened a graphic and made some edits. I did not > change the graphic filename. Then open the corresponding Frame file without > any problems. > > I renamed the graphic file and reopened the Frame book. When it ran into the > missing graphic, I selected Ignore and it just ignored that graphic and > opened the file. I closed the Frame file and tried it again and selected > Skip and got the same response. > > This tends to tell me that something in Frame has gotten corrupted. You > might try reinstalling, at least the latest patch (p277) and then try > opening the file. If this doesn't fix it, then I would re0install Frame8 and > then, of course, all updates. > > -Original Message- > From: Richard Melanson [mailto:rmelan...@spirecorp.com] > Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2009 11:04 AM > To: David Spreadbury; Combs, Richard; framers@lists.frameusers.com > Subject: RE: Import by Reference Question/Bug ? > > Thank you for your quick response David. I cant get by the Missing File > window. I can click on ignore or skip 100 times and Frame just keeps > redisplaying the Missing File window. Frame will not allow me to skip or > ignore, I cannot get access to the Frame file unless I update to the new > drawing. > > Rick > > -Original Message- > From: David Spreadbury [mailto:dspre...@yahoo.com] > Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2009 11:59 AM > To: Richard Melanson; 'Combs, Richard'; framers@lists.frameusers.com > Subject: RE: Import by Reference Question/Bug ? > > Rick, > The only way that I can see is that something in the path or filename of > the graphics must be different or you aren't saving the Frame file once > you have redirected the file to point to the proper graphic file > location. > > When you open a Frame file, that can't locate a referenced graphic, and > you select to skip this file, the next time you open that particular > Frame file, it will again ask for the correct graphic file location, > even if you have saved the file. > > Check the path and filename of the referenced graphic files. The > complete path and filename MUST remain identical. > > -Original Message- > From: Richard Melanson [mailto:rmelan...@spirecorp.com] > Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2009 10:34 AM > To: David Spreadbury; Combs, Richard; framers@lists.frameusers.com > Subject: Import by Reference Question/Bug ? > > Hi Framers, > > I have Frame 8 with all the updates/patches running on a WinXp system > with 3gig RAM, 500gig HD, and a 2GHz Core 2 CPU. I have about 55 > drawings imported by reference in a single Frame file. When one or more > of the imported by reference drawings changes, Frame gives the option to > update the path to the drawing or to skip the file or ignore all missing > files. When I try to select skip this file or ignore all missing files, > frame just redisplays the Missing File window. I have made sure Frame is > not looking for a different drawing, I cannot get Frame to skip or > ignore. Anyone ever had this problem, thank you all in advance for your > help. > > Rick > > > > ___ > > > You are currently subscribed to Framers as docu...@hotmail.com. > > Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. > > To unsubscribe send a blank email to > framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com > or visit > http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/docudoc%40hotmail.com > > Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit > http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
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Richard Melanson wrote: > Thank you for your quick response David. I cant get by the Missing File > window. I can click on ignore or skip 100 times and Frame just keeps > redisplaying the Missing File window. Frame will not allow me to skip or > ignore, I cannot get access to the Frame file unless I update to the new > drawing. In the Misssing File dialog, you're selecting Ignore All Missing Files and clicking Continue, and FM just keeps displaying the dialog? That's decidedly odd... OTOH, I have to wonder why the file path or name of your imported-by-reference drawings keeps changing. What is it about your workflow that causes this problem to keep coming up? Maybe you can fix that part so this just doesn't happen anymore. Richard Richard G. Combs Senior Technical Writer Polycom, Inc. richardDOTcombs AT polycomDOTcom 303-223-5111 -- rgcombs AT gmailDOTcom 303-777-0436 -- ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
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Rick, On your first email, I opened a graphic and made some edits. I did not change the graphic filename. Then open the corresponding Frame file without any problems. I renamed the graphic file and reopened the Frame book. When it ran into the missing graphic, I selected Ignore and it just ignored that graphic and opened the file. I closed the Frame file and tried it again and selected Skip and got the same response. This tends to tell me that something in Frame has gotten corrupted. You might try reinstalling, at least the latest patch (p277) and then try opening the file. If this doesn't fix it, then I would re0install Frame8 and then, of course, all updates. -Original Message- From: Richard Melanson [mailto:rmelan...@spirecorp.com] Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2009 11:04 AM To: David Spreadbury; Combs, Richard; framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: RE: Import by Reference Question/Bug ? Thank you for your quick response David. I cant get by the Missing File window. I can click on ignore or skip 100 times and Frame just keeps redisplaying the Missing File window. Frame will not allow me to skip or ignore, I cannot get access to the Frame file unless I update to the new drawing. Rick -Original Message- From: David Spreadbury [mailto:dspre...@yahoo.com] Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2009 11:59 AM To: Richard Melanson; 'Combs, Richard'; framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: RE: Import by Reference Question/Bug ? Rick, The only way that I can see is that something in the path or filename of the graphics must be different or you aren't saving the Frame file once you have redirected the file to point to the proper graphic file location. When you open a Frame file, that can't locate a referenced graphic, and you select to skip this file, the next time you open that particular Frame file, it will again ask for the correct graphic file location, even if you have saved the file. Check the path and filename of the referenced graphic files. The complete path and filename MUST remain identical. -Original Message- From: Richard Melanson [mailto:rmelan...@spirecorp.com] Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2009 10:34 AM To: David Spreadbury; Combs, Richard; framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: Import by Reference Question/Bug ? Hi Framers, I have Frame 8 with all the updates/patches running on a WinXp system with 3gig RAM, 500gig HD, and a 2GHz Core 2 CPU. I have about 55 drawings imported by reference in a single Frame file. When one or more of the imported by reference drawings changes, Frame gives the option to update the path to the drawing or to skip the file or ignore all missing files. When I try to select skip this file or ignore all missing files, frame just redisplays the Missing File window. I have made sure Frame is not looking for a different drawing, I cannot get Frame to skip or ignore. Anyone ever had this problem, thank you all in advance for your help. Rick ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
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Thank you for your quick response David. I cant get by the Missing File window. I can click on ignore or skip 100 times and Frame just keeps redisplaying the Missing File window. Frame will not allow me to skip or ignore, I cannot get access to the Frame file unless I update to the new drawing. Rick -Original Message- From: David Spreadbury [mailto:dspre...@yahoo.com] Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2009 11:59 AM To: Richard Melanson; 'Combs, Richard'; framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: RE: Import by Reference Question/Bug ? Rick, The only way that I can see is that something in the path or filename of the graphics must be different or you aren't saving the Frame file once you have redirected the file to point to the proper graphic file location. When you open a Frame file, that can't locate a referenced graphic, and you select to skip this file, the next time you open that particular Frame file, it will again ask for the correct graphic file location, even if you have saved the file. Check the path and filename of the referenced graphic files. The complete path and filename MUST remain identical. -Original Message- From: Richard Melanson [mailto:rmelan...@spirecorp.com] Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2009 10:34 AM To: David Spreadbury; Combs, Richard; framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: Import by Reference Question/Bug ? Hi Framers, I have Frame 8 with all the updates/patches running on a WinXp system with 3gig RAM, 500gig HD, and a 2GHz Core 2 CPU. I have about 55 drawings imported by reference in a single Frame file. When one or more of the imported by reference drawings changes, Frame gives the option to update the path to the drawing or to skip the file or ignore all missing files. When I try to select skip this file or ignore all missing files, frame just redisplays the Missing File window. I have made sure Frame is not looking for a different drawing, I cannot get Frame to skip or ignore. Anyone ever had this problem, thank you all in advance for your help. Rick ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Import by Reference Question/Bug ?
Rick, The only way that I can see is that something in the path or filename of the graphics must be different or you aren't saving the Frame file once you have redirected the file to point to the proper graphic file location. When you open a Frame file, that can't locate a referenced graphic, and you select to skip this file, the next time you open that particular Frame file, it will again ask for the correct graphic file location, even if you have saved the file. Check the path and filename of the referenced graphic files. The complete path and filename MUST remain identical. -Original Message- From: Richard Melanson [mailto:rmelan...@spirecorp.com] Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2009 10:34 AM To: David Spreadbury; Combs, Richard; framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: Import by Reference Question/Bug ? Hi Framers, I have Frame 8 with all the updates/patches running on a WinXp system with 3gig RAM, 500gig HD, and a 2GHz Core 2 CPU. I have about 55 drawings imported by reference in a single Frame file. When one or more of the imported by reference drawings changes, Frame gives the option to update the path to the drawing or to skip the file or ignore all missing files. When I try to select skip this file or ignore all missing files, frame just redisplays the Missing File window. I have made sure Frame is not looking for a different drawing, I cannot get Frame to skip or ignore. Anyone ever had this problem, thank you all in advance for your help. Rick ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
