Re: Is there a way in FM10 to exclude Newline from TOC?

2011-08-16 Thread Yves Barbion
Hi Bodvar

I think CudSpan's TocBreaker is what you're looking for?

http://www.cudspan.net/plugins/

I haven't tested it with Fm 10 though.

I use non-breaking spaces instead of line breaks in titles.

Cheers


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2011/8/15 Böðvar Björgvinsson bod...@gmail.com

 Hi all. In earlier versions (up to 7.2) there was a FrameScript plugin that
 could learn where you wanted a line to break in a TOC, and if the text
 included a newline (SHIFT-ENTER), it could be disregarded. Is this possible
 directly in FM10 or is there a script or a plugin that can handle this?

 Bodvar Bjorgvinsson
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Re: Is there a way in FM10 to exclude Newline from TOC?

2011-08-16 Thread Böðvar Björgvinsson
Hi Yves,

Thanks. TocBreaker is what I was using (with limited success) on FM7.2. I
haven't tried it on FM10.
Won't non-breaking spaces add up as multiple spaces in the TOC?

Brgds,

Bodvar


Þann 16. ágúst 2011 14:21, skrifaði Yves Barbion yves.barb...@gmail.com:

 Hi Bodvar

 I think CudSpan's TocBreaker is what you're looking for?

 http://www.cudspan.net/plugins/

 I haven't tested it with Fm 10 though.

 I use non-breaking spaces instead of line breaks in titles.

 Cheers


 --
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 www.scripto.nu

 2011/8/15 Böðvar Björgvinsson bod...@gmail.com

 Hi all. In earlier versions (up to 7.2) there was a FrameScript plugin
 that could learn where you wanted a line to break in a TOC, and if the
 text included a newline (SHIFT-ENTER), it could be disregarded. Is this
 possible directly in FM10 or is there a script or a plugin that can handle
 this?

 Bodvar Bjorgvinsson
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RE: Is there a way in FM10 to exclude Newline from TOC?

2011-08-16 Thread Fred Ridder

If you were to use multiple spaces in a row, the answer would be yes, of 
course. But the point is to use non-breaking spaces in place of normal spaces 
in every location where you don't want the title/heading/caption to break. If 
the line needs to break, it will do so at the only place where it can: the 
plain space you leave in the desired location.
 
-Fred Ridder
 



Date: Tue, 16 Aug 2011 15:02:17 +
Subject: Re: Is there a way in FM10 to exclude Newline from TOC?
From: bod...@gmail.com
To: yves.barb...@gmail.com
CC: framers@lists.frameusers.com

Hi Yves,


Thanks. TocBreaker is what I was using (with limited success) on FM7.2. I 
haven't tried it on FM10.
Won't non-breaking spaces add up as multiple spaces in the TOC?


Brgds,


Bodvar



Þann 16. ágúst 2011 14:21, skrifaði Yves Barbion yves.barb...@gmail.com:

Hi Bodvar

I think CudSpan's TocBreaker is what you're looking for?

http://www.cudspan.net/plugins/

I haven't tested it with Fm 10 though.

I use non-breaking spaces instead of line breaks in titles.

Cheers


-- 
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www.scripto.nu





2011/8/15 Böðvar Björgvinsson bod...@gmail.com




Hi all. In earlier versions (up to 7.2) there was a FrameScript plugin that 
could learn where you wanted a line to break in a TOC, and if the text 
included a newline (SHIFT-ENTER), it could be disregarded. Is this possible 
directly in FM10 or is there a script or a plugin that can handle this?


Bodvar Bjorgvinsson
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Re: Is there a way in FM10 to exclude Newline from TOC?

2011-08-16 Thread Böðvar Björgvinsson
Thanks Fred, I'll try that one out the next time. :-)

Bodvar

2011/8/16 Fred Ridder docu...@hotmail.com

  If you were to use multiple spaces in a row, the answer would be yes, of
 course. But the point is to use non-breaking spaces in place of normal
 spaces in every location where you don't want the title/heading/caption to
 break. If the line needs to break, it will do so at the only place where it
 can: the plain space you leave in the desired location.

 -Fred Ridder

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 Date: Tue, 16 Aug 2011 15:02:17 +
 Subject: Re: Is there a way in FM10 to exclude Newline from TOC?
 From: bod...@gmail.com
 To: yves.barb...@gmail.com
 CC: framers@lists.frameusers.com


 Hi Yves,

 Thanks. TocBreaker is what I was using (with limited success) on FM7.2. I
 haven't tried it on FM10.
 Won't non-breaking spaces add up as multiple spaces in the TOC?

 Brgds,

 Bodvar


 Þann 16. ágúst 2011 14:21, skrifaði Yves Barbion yves.barb...@gmail.com:

 Hi Bodvar

 I think CudSpan's TocBreaker is what you're looking for?

 http://www.cudspan.net/plugins/

 I haven't tested it with Fm 10 though.

 I use non-breaking spaces instead of line breaks in titles.

 Cheers


 --
 Yves Barbion
 www.scripto.nu

   2011/8/15 Böðvar Björgvinsson bod...@gmail.com

  Hi all. In earlier versions (up to 7.2) there was a FrameScript plugin
 that could learn where you wanted a line to break in a TOC, and if the
 text included a newline (SHIFT-ENTER), it could be disregarded. Is this
 possible directly in FM10 or is there a script or a plugin that can handle
 this?

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RE: Is there a way in FM10 to exclude Newline from TOC?

2011-08-16 Thread Combs, Richard
Fred Ridder wrote: 
 
 If you were to use multiple spaces in a row, the answer would be yes,
 of course. But the point is to use non-breaking spaces in place of
 normal spaces in every location where you don't want the
 title/heading/caption to break. If the line needs to break, it will do
 so at the only place where it can: the plain space you leave in the
 desired location.

Non-breaking spaces work very well for controlling where headings break in the 
TOC. But if you use any cross-reference formats that include the $paratext 
variable, remember that the non-breaking spaces will appear in those 
cross-references, too, and that can lead to some ugly line breaks in body text. 

I suggest using non-breaking spaces in headings sparingly. Don't put them 
everyplace you don't want the line to break. Generate the TOC without them. 
Then, if a line breaks at a bad spot, use a non-breaking space only where it's 
needed to force the line to break at a better place. 


Richard G. Combs
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Polycom, Inc.
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RE: Is there a way in FM10 to exclude Newline from TOC?

2011-08-16 Thread Fred Ridder

Good point, Richard. 
In my defense I'll simply point out that at all of the last three companies 
I've worked for, the standard style was to include only the label and 
autonumber and not the text of the heading/caption/title in cross-references. 
Of course, if my current employer ever decided to join the trend to eliminate 
numbered headings, we'd have to change that practice, but the chances of that 
happening are very slim.
 
-Fred Ridder
 

 From: richard.co...@polycom.com
 To: docu...@hotmail.com; bod...@gmail.com; yves.barb...@gmail.com
 CC: framers@lists.frameusers.com
 Date: Tue, 16 Aug 2011 08:56:20 -0700
 Subject: RE: Is there a way in FM10 to exclude Newline from TOC?
 
 Fred Ridder wrote: 
 
  If you were to use multiple spaces in a row, the answer would be yes,
  of course. But the point is to use non-breaking spaces in place of
  normal spaces in every location where you don't want the
  title/heading/caption to break. If the line needs to break, it will do
  so at the only place where it can: the plain space you leave in the
  desired location.
 
 Non-breaking spaces work very well for controlling where headings break in 
 the TOC. But if you use any cross-reference formats that include the 
 $paratext variable, remember that the non-breaking spaces will appear in 
 those cross-references, too, and that can lead to some ugly line breaks in 
 body text. 
 
 I suggest using non-breaking spaces in headings sparingly. Don't put them 
 everyplace you don't want the line to break. Generate the TOC without them. 
 Then, if a line breaks at a bad spot, use a non-breaking space only where 
 it's needed to force the line to break at a better place. 
 
 
 Richard G. Combs
 Senior Technical Writer
 Polycom, Inc.
 richardDOTcombs AT polycomDOTcom
 303-223-5111
 --
 rgcombs AT gmailDOTcom
 303-903-6372
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