RE: Maximum number of variables in FM?
At 08:04 PM 10/28/2009, Diane Gaskill wrote: If I read your message correctly, FM9 has a function in the FDK that can import filter-by-attribute settings. Please confirm. This will solve a major problem for us. Diane, Sorry for the delay in responding. It isn't a single function, but I confirm that the FM9 FDK can copy attribute expressions used in filter-by-attribute from one document to another and can apply a selected expression. I haven't needed to use it, but it should also be able to identify the applied filter and hence copy that setting as well to another document. The relevant properties are documented in the FM8 FDK documentation, so the FM8 FDK should be able to do so as well. --Lynne Lynne A. Price Text Structure Consulting, Inc. Specializing in structured FrameMaker consulting, application development, and training lpr...@txstruct.comhttp://www.txstruct.com voice/fax: (510) 583-1505 cell phone: (510) 421-2284 ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Maximum number of variables in FM?
Hi Lynne, I am glad to hear that. We were told by a couple of engineers in one of our divisions in Japan that they could not find an FDK function in FM8 that would do it. If you would not mind, could you please tell me the names of the functions that do this? Thanks lots, Diane -Original Message- From: Lynne A. Price [mailto:lpr...@txstruct.com] Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2009 7:19 PM To: Diane Gaskill; Diane Gaskill; Rick Quatro; framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: RE: Maximum number of variables in FM? At 08:04 PM 10/28/2009, Diane Gaskill wrote: If I read your message correctly, FM9 has a function in the FDK that can import filter-by-attribute settings. Please confirm. This will solve a major problem for us. Diane, Sorry for the delay in responding. It isn't a single function, but I confirm that the FM9 FDK can copy attribute expressions used in filter-by-attribute from one document to another and can apply a selected expression. I haven't needed to use it, but it should also be able to identify the applied filter and hence copy that setting as well to another document. The relevant properties are documented in the FM8 FDK documentation, so the FM8 FDK should be able to do so as well. --Lynne Lynne A. Price Text Structure Consulting, Inc. Specializing in structured FrameMaker consulting, application development, and training lpr...@txstruct.comhttp://www.txstruct.com voice/fax: (510) 583-1505 cell phone: (510) 421-2284 ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Maximum number of variables in FM?
On 27 Oct 2009 at 0:00, Diane Gaskill wrote: What the maximum number of user variables that can be created in FM 8? The FM help says that the maximum number of characters in a variable definition is 255, but does not specify the maximum number of variables. Diana, I have found out this for the length of variable contents: From FM 8.0: up to 2023 Windows Codepage characters or up to 2022 UTF-8 characters. Concerning the maximum number of variable definitions you got an answer already (seems to be limited by RAM only). There may, however be a limit depending on other objects: The internal context table is a memory construct that holds many types of FrameMaker document objects. The following table illustrates the different entries and their requirements. element: 2 entries; variable: 2 entries; cross-reference: 2 entries; marker (any type): 1 entry; table: 1 entry; anchored frame: 1 entry; hidden conditional text: 1 entry per block. In FrameMaker 5.5, maximum number of entries is 2^24 (16 777 216). [Adobe support data base] Klaus Daube ~~ Docu + Design Daube; Schäracher 11; CH-8053 Zürich Technical documentation consultancy; On-line and paper F: +41-44-422 86 25 E: d...@daube.ch W: www.daube.ch ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Maximum number of variables in FM?
Hi Diane,
I am not sure what the limit is, but I just used this little code snippet to
create 10,000 of them in a blank document, and it seemed to work fine.
Loop While(i = 1) LoopVar(i) Init(1) Incr(1)
New VariableFormat DocObject(ActiveDoc) Name('Variable'+i);
EndLoop
How many do you need?
Rick Quatro
Carmen Publishing Inc.
585-659-8267
r...@frameexpert.com
www.frameexpert.com
-Original Message-
From: Diane Gaskill [mailto:dgcal...@earthlink.net]
Sent: Wednesday, October 28, 2009 12:15 AM
To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Cc: Matt Sullivan; Rick Quatro
Subject: Maximum number of variables in FM?
Hi Matt, Rick, and Everyone,
What the maximum number of user variables that can be created in FM 8? The FM
help says that the maximum number of characters in a variable definition is
255, but does not specify the maximum number of variables.
Thanks,
Diane
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RE: Maximum number of variables in FM?
Hi Rick,
10,000? That's considerably more than I expected. Thanks lots for doing that.
I've just gotta make the time to learn FS. :-)
I'm not sure how many we need, maybe 100 or so. We're trying to come up with a
common set of variables that we can use across the department for all the
versions of the products we document. This is part of our content modeling and
reusability plan. We also single source some of the docs to RH and also
rebrand some of our our docs for an OEM customer. Challenging, for sure.
Now all we have to do is make sure that the variables save in XML. According
to the FM help, they do. As you know, one of our OEMs uses Arbortext and we use
a DocBook template that creates XML that they can import. Even more
challenging, to put it nicely, because profile attribute settings (the DocBook
XML equivalent of conditional text) cannot be imported across the book from one
chapter like conditional text can. I'm told that there is no function in the
FDK that can do this, so apparently FS cannot solve this problem.
Thanks again.
Diane
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-Original Message-
From: Rick Quatro [mailto:r...@rickquatro.com]
Sent: Wednesday, October 28, 2009 4:57 AM
To: 'Diane Gaskill'; framers@lists.frameusers.com
Cc: 'Matt Sullivan'
Subject: RE: Maximum number of variables in FM?
Hi Diane,
I am not sure what the limit is, but I just used this little code snippet to
create 10,000 of them in a blank document, and it seemed to work fine.
Loop While(i = 1) LoopVar(i) Init(1) Incr(1)
New VariableFormat DocObject(ActiveDoc) Name('Variable'+i);
EndLoop
How many do you need?
Rick Quatro
Carmen Publishing Inc.
585-659-8267
r...@frameexpert.com
www.frameexpert.com
-Original Message-
From: Diane Gaskill [mailto:dgcal...@earthlink.net]
Sent: Wednesday, October 28, 2009 12:15 AM
To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Cc: Matt Sullivan; Rick Quatro
Subject: Maximum number of variables in FM?
Hi Matt, Rick, and Everyone,
What the maximum number of user variables that can be created in FM 8? The FM
help says that the maximum number of characters in a variable definition is
255, but does not specify the maximum number of variables.
Thanks,
Diane
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RE: Maximum number of variables in FM?
Your variables will export out. One way is to address them in the Structured
Application (the Read/Write Rules) to configure them the way your DTD wants
them. (as either internal entities or as external entities defined in a/the
DTD.
That'll make them transfer in and out of FM properly.
-Matt
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-Original Message-
From: Diane Gaskill [mailto:dgcal...@earthlink.net]
Sent: Wednesday, October 28, 2009 11:14 AM
To: Rick Quatro; framers@lists.frameusers.com
Cc: 'Matt Sullivan'
Subject: RE: Maximum number of variables in FM?
Hi Rick,
10,000? That's considerably more than I expected. Thanks lots for doing
that. I've just gotta make the time to learn FS. :-)
I'm not sure how many we need, maybe 100 or so. We're trying to come up
with a common set of variables that we can use across the department for all
the versions of the products we document. This is part of our content
modeling and reusability plan. We also single source some of the docs to RH
and also rebrand some of our our docs for an OEM customer. Challenging, for
sure.
Now all we have to do is make sure that the variables save in XML.
According to the FM help, they do. As you know, one of our OEMs uses
Arbortext and we use a DocBook template that creates XML that they can
import. Even more challenging, to put it nicely, because profile attribute
settings (the DocBook XML equivalent of conditional text) cannot be imported
across the book from one chapter like conditional text can. I'm told that
there is no function in the FDK that can do this, so apparently FS cannot
solve this problem.
Thanks again.
Diane
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-Original Message-
From: Rick Quatro [mailto:r...@rickquatro.com]
Sent: Wednesday, October 28, 2009 4:57 AM
To: 'Diane Gaskill'; framers@lists.frameusers.com
Cc: 'Matt Sullivan'
Subject: RE: Maximum number of variables in FM?
Hi Diane,
I am not sure what the limit is, but I just used this little code snippet to
create 10,000 of them in a blank document, and it seemed to work fine.
Loop While(i = 1) LoopVar(i) Init(1) Incr(1)
New VariableFormat DocObject(ActiveDoc) Name('Variable'+i); EndLoop
How many do you need?
Rick Quatro
Carmen Publishing Inc.
585-659-8267
r...@frameexpert.com
www.frameexpert.com
-Original Message-
From: Diane Gaskill [mailto:dgcal...@earthlink.net]
Sent: Wednesday, October 28, 2009 12:15 AM
To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Cc: Matt Sullivan; Rick Quatro
Subject: Maximum number of variables in FM?
Hi Matt, Rick, and Everyone,
What the maximum number of user variables that can be created in FM 8? The
FM help says that the maximum number of characters in a variable definition
is 255, but does not specify the maximum number of variables.
Thanks,
Diane
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RE: Maximum number of variables in FM?
Hi, Diane. I have over 700 variables in one of my documents ... no problem at all! In case anyone wonders why I have so many: has to do with a set of numeric values in one of my specs that are refered to in multiple places - fwiw, it is better to be consistent everywhere, than wrong in even one place! So, variables is the answer. :) Anyway, the allowed number is therefore higher than that, I suspect. Z -Original Message- From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Diane Gaskill Sent: Tuesday, October 27, 2009 9:15 PM To: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: Maximum number of variables in FM? Hi Matt, Rick, and Everyone, What the maximum number of user variables that can be created in FM 8? The FM help says that the maximum number of characters in a variable definition is 255, but does not specify the maximum number of variables. Thanks, Diane ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as syed.hos...@aeris.net. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/syed.hosain%40aeris. net Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Maximum number of variables in FM?
At 11:14 AM 10/28/2009, Diane Gaskill wrote: Even more challenging, to put it nicely, because profile attribute settings (the DocBook XML equivalent of conditional text) cannot be imported across the book from one chapter like conditional text can. I'm told that there is no function in the FDK that can do this, so apparently FS cannot solve this problem. Diane, I'm not sure what you mean here. It is true that importing formats from one document to others (including those in a book) does not import the definition of attribute expressions used by filter-by-attribute; nor does it apply the filter used in the source to the destination documents. However, at least in FM9, the FDK can do so. --Lynne Lynne A. Price Text Structure Consulting, Inc. Specializing in structured FrameMaker consulting, application development, and training lpr...@txstruct.comhttp://www.txstruct.com voice/fax: (510) 583-1505 cell phone: (510) 421-2284 ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Maximum number of variables in FM?
Hi Lynne, If I read your message correctly, FM9 has a function in the FDK that can import filter-by-attribute settings. Please confirm. This will solve a major problem for us. Thanks lots, Diane -Original Message- From: Lynne A. Price [mailto:lpr...@txstruct.com] Sent: Wednesday, October 28, 2009 2:30 PM To: Diane Gaskill; Rick Quatro; framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: RE: Maximum number of variables in FM? At 11:14 AM 10/28/2009, Diane Gaskill wrote: Even more challenging, to put it nicely, because profile attribute settings (the DocBook XML equivalent of conditional text) cannot be imported across the book from one chapter like conditional text can. I'm told that there is no function in the FDK that can do this, so apparently FS cannot solve this problem. Diane, I'm not sure what you mean here. It is true that importing formats from one document to others (including those in a book) does not import the definition of attribute expressions used by filter-by-attribute; nor does it apply the filter used in the source to the destination documents. However, at least in FM9, the FDK can do so. --Lynne Lynne A. Price Text Structure Consulting, Inc. Specializing in structured FrameMaker consulting, application development, and training lpr...@txstruct.comhttp://www.txstruct.com voice/fax: (510) 583-1505 cell phone: (510) 421-2284 ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
