Re: Tech Comm Suite 5
Cool. Thanks! -Gillian On Nov 21, 2014, at 5:10 AM, Jeff Coatsworth wrote: > Did you happen to see Bernie’s guest post about FM & XMl/DITA? - > http://blogs.adobe.com/techcomm/2014/11/xml-authoring-made-easy-not-for-geeks-anymore.html > > From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com > [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Gillian Flato > Sent: November-20-14 7:37 PM > To: Scott Prentice > Cc: framers@lists.frameusers.com > Subject: Re: Tech Comm Suite 5 > > Thanks, appreciate the help and info. > > -Gillian > > > On Nov 20, 2014, at 2:59 PM, Scott Prentice wrote: > > > Hi Gillian... > > You may want to post this question to the framemaker-dita Yahoo group for > additional info. > > 1) There are no DITA "publishing scripts" in FM. To generate a PDF you save > the map to a book file (with FM chapter files), then save the book to a PDF. > The formatting of the generated FM files is controlled by the structure > application(s). Customizing the structure applications is far more complex > than can be explained in an email, but that's where you'll need to look. Note > that there is no difference between DITA authored in Oxygen or FM .. if it's > valid DITA, it's just DITA. Some people think that DITA in FM isn't "pure > DITA" .. it should be, and if it's not, it's not DITA. > > DITA-FMx provides a much easier path to > publishing and customizing than you'll get with default FM, and can be fully > automated with additional tools. > > 2) It depends on what you're trying to do. Here's the official list, the mode > of "connection" to FM and the effectiveness of these CMSes can be debated .. > > http://www.adobe.com/products/framemaker/cms-integration.html > > DITA-FMx connects to the XDocs CMS, which is I > believe the lowest-cost CMS on the list. We are in the process of working on > a connector with easyDITA as well. > > 3) It depends on how consistently tagged your FM files are. If your FM files > are a "mess" it's going to be really hard .. if your FM files are really > clean, it's going to be just reasonably hard. The sample files and webinar on > this page may be of some use .. > > http://leximation.com/downloads/adobe-fm2xml-2013/ > > Cheers, > > ...scott > > > Scott Prentice > Leximation, Inc. > www.leximation.com > +1.415.485.1892 > > On 11/20/14 11:35 AM, Gillian Flato wrote: > Guys, > > I am considering using Tech Comm Suite 5 for a project. I have some questions > which I know you guys can answer better than Adobe: > > 1. How do you edit the publishing scripts to make custom-designed PDFs? Is it > the same as with Oxygen and “pure” DITA? I have edited custom plugins that I > used with Oxygen. > > 2. What’s a good, relatively low-cost CMS to use with Tech Comm Suite 5? > > 3. How easy is it to convert unstructured Frame docs to DITA docs to be used > in Frame? > > Thanks! > > -Gillian > > > ___ > > > You are currently subscribed to framers as gill6...@comcast.net. > > Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. > > To unsubscribe send a blank email to > framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com > or visit > http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/gill6034%40comcast.net > > Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit > http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. > > ___ > > > You are currently subscribed to framers as gill6...@comcast.net. > > Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. > > To unsubscribe send a blank email to > framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com > or visit > http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/gill6034%40comcast.net > > Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit > http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Tech Comm Suite 5
Did you happen to see Bernie's guest post about FM & XMl/DITA? - http://blogs.adobe.com/techcomm/2014/11/xml-authoring-made-easy-not-for-geeks-anymore.html From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Gillian Flato Sent: November-20-14 7:37 PM To: Scott Prentice Cc: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: Re: Tech Comm Suite 5 Thanks, appreciate the help and info. -Gillian On Nov 20, 2014, at 2:59 PM, Scott Prentice mailto:s...@leximation.com>> wrote: Hi Gillian... You may want to post this question to the framemaker-dita Yahoo group for additional info. 1) There are no DITA "publishing scripts" in FM. To generate a PDF you save the map to a book file (with FM chapter files), then save the book to a PDF. The formatting of the generated FM files is controlled by the structure application(s). Customizing the structure applications is far more complex than can be explained in an email, but that's where you'll need to look. Note that there is no difference between DITA authored in Oxygen or FM .. if it's valid DITA, it's just DITA. Some people think that DITA in FM isn't "pure DITA" .. it should be, and if it's not, it's not DITA. DITA-FMx provides a much easier path to publishing and customizing than you'll get with default FM, and can be fully automated with additional tools. 2) It depends on what you're trying to do. Here's the official list, the mode of "connection" to FM and the effectiveness of these CMSes can be debated .. http://www.adobe.com/products/framemaker/cms-integration.html DITA-FMx connects to the XDocs CMS, which is I believe the lowest-cost CMS on the list. We are in the process of working on a connector with easyDITA as well. 3) It depends on how consistently tagged your FM files are. If your FM files are a "mess" it's going to be really hard .. if your FM files are really clean, it's going to be just reasonably hard. The sample files and webinar on this page may be of some use .. http://leximation.com/downloads/adobe-fm2xml-2013/ Cheers, ...scott Scott Prentice Leximation, Inc. www.leximation.com<http://www.leximation.com/> +1.415.485.1892 On 11/20/14 11:35 AM, Gillian Flato wrote: Guys, I am considering using Tech Comm Suite 5 for a project. I have some questions which I know you guys can answer better than Adobe: 1. How do you edit the publishing scripts to make custom-designed PDFs? Is it the same as with Oxygen and "pure" DITA? I have edited custom plugins that I used with Oxygen. 2. What's a good, relatively low-cost CMS to use with Tech Comm Suite 5? 3. How easy is it to convert unstructured Frame docs to DITA docs to be used in Frame? Thanks! -Gillian ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as gill6...@comcast.net<mailto:gill6...@comcast.net>. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com<mailto:framers@lists.frameusers.com>. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com<mailto:framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com> or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/gill6034%40comcast.net Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com<mailto:listad...@frameusers.com>. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Tech Comm Suite 5
Thanks, appreciate the help and info. -Gillian On Nov 20, 2014, at 2:59 PM, Scott Prentice wrote: > Hi Gillian... > > You may want to post this question to the framemaker-dita Yahoo group for > additional info. > > 1) There are no DITA "publishing scripts" in FM. To generate a PDF you save > the map to a book file (with FM chapter files), then save the book to a PDF. > The formatting of the generated FM files is controlled by the structure > application(s). Customizing the structure applications is far more complex > than can be explained in an email, but that's where you'll need to look. Note > that there is no difference between DITA authored in Oxygen or FM .. if it's > valid DITA, it's just DITA. Some people think that DITA in FM isn't "pure > DITA" .. it should be, and if it's not, it's not DITA. > > DITA-FMx provides a much easier path to > publishing and customizing than you'll get with default FM, and can be fully > automated with additional tools. > > 2) It depends on what you're trying to do. Here's the official list, the mode > of "connection" to FM and the effectiveness of these CMSes can be debated .. > > http://www.adobe.com/products/framemaker/cms-integration.html > > DITA-FMx connects to the XDocs CMS, which is I > believe the lowest-cost CMS on the list. We are in the process of working on > a connector with easyDITA as well. > > 3) It depends on how consistently tagged your FM files are. If your FM files > are a "mess" it's going to be really hard .. if your FM files are really > clean, it's going to be just reasonably hard. The sample files and webinar on > this page may be of some use .. > > http://leximation.com/downloads/adobe-fm2xml-2013/ > > Cheers, > > ...scott > > Scott Prentice > Leximation, Inc. > www.leximation.com > +1.415.485.1892 > > On 11/20/14 11:35 AM, Gillian Flato wrote: >> Guys, >> >> I am considering using Tech Comm Suite 5 for a project. I have some >> questions which I know you guys can answer better than Adobe: >> >> 1. How do you edit the publishing scripts to make custom-designed PDFs? Is >> it the same as with Oxygen and “pure” DITA? I have edited custom plugins >> that I used with Oxygen. >> >> 2. What’s a good, relatively low-cost CMS to use with Tech Comm Suite 5? >> >> 3. How easy is it to convert unstructured Frame docs to DITA docs to be used >> in Frame? >> >> Thanks! >> >> -Gillian >> > > ___ > > > You are currently subscribed to framers as gill6...@comcast.net. > > Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. > > To unsubscribe send a blank email to > framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com > or visit > http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/gill6034%40comcast.net > > Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit > http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Tech Comm Suite 5
Hi Gillian... You may want to post this question to the framemaker-dita Yahoo group for additional info. 1) There are no DITA "publishing scripts" in FM. To generate a PDF you save the map to a book file (with FM chapter files), then save the book to a PDF. The formatting of the generated FM files is controlled by the structure application(s). Customizing the structure applications is far more complex than can be explained in an email, but that's where you'll need to look. Note that there is no difference between DITA authored in Oxygen or FM .. if it's valid DITA, it's just DITA. Some people think that DITA in FM isn't "pure DITA" .. it should be, and if it's not, it's not DITA. DITA-FMx provides a much easier path to publishing and customizing than you'll get with default FM, and can be fully automated with additional tools. 2) It depends on what you're trying to do. Here's the official list, the mode of "connection" to FM and the effectiveness of these CMSes can be debated .. http://www.adobe.com/products/framemaker/cms-integration.html DITA-FMx connects to the XDocs CMS, which is I believe the lowest-cost CMS on the list. We are in the process of working on a connector with easyDITA as well. 3) It depends on how consistently tagged your FM files are. If your FM files are a "mess" it's going to be really hard .. if your FM files are really clean, it's going to be just reasonably hard. The sample files and webinar on this page may be of some use .. http://leximation.com/downloads/adobe-fm2xml-2013/ Cheers, ...scott Scott Prentice Leximation, Inc. www.leximation.com +1.415.485.1892 On 11/20/14 11:35 AM, Gillian Flato wrote: Guys, I am considering using Tech Comm Suite 5 for a project. I have some questions which I know you guys can answer better than Adobe: 1. How do you edit the publishing scripts to make custom-designed PDFs? Is it the same as with Oxygen and “pure” DITA? I have edited custom plugins that I used with Oxygen. 2. What’s a good, relatively low-cost CMS to use with Tech Comm Suite 5? 3. How easy is it to convert unstructured Frame docs to DITA docs to be used in Frame? Thanks! -Gillian ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Tech Comm Suite 5
On Thu, Nov 20, 2014 at 11:35 AM, Gillian Flato wrote: > 2. What’s a good, relatively low-cost CMS to use with Tech Comm Suite 5? What do you want the CMS to do? > 3. How easy is it to convert unstructured Frame docs to DITA docs to be used > in Frame? Depends on how the unstructured FrameMaker docs are tagged, but generally it's a major undertaking. If the source is already in unstructured FrameMaker, you should have a pretty compelling reason to migrate to DITA to justify the cost. ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
