RE: recurring decimals (1 FM8 file attached)
Hi, Mike. I tried the Rubi capability out and it seems like it would work for me, if I solve one minor problem. So, I'd appreciate your comments on this issue. I used the Special-Rubi function (for example, on the final char 9 in the word 10.999Z) and used the period for the dot. Pretty cool! _But_, the size of this dot is pretty small, barely visible, and I have not been able to adjust its size to make it larger. Is there a special way to do this size increase? Thanks! Z -Original Message- From: mkopen [mailto:mko...@transversant.ca] Sent: Friday, April 16, 2010 11:21 AM To: framers@lists.frameusers.com Cc: Syed Zaeem Hosain (syed.hos...@aeris.net) Subject: Re: recurring decimals (1 FM8 file attached) Syed, you wrote That method actually worked very well in certain places in my document, but I have a problem with it in a few others. In some cases, the dot needs to be above the number, but the very next character is either another number or a letter. For example (contrived but real samples here): 19.1345... Where a dot needs to be above _both_ the 1 and the 5, or: 10.999Z Where the dot is above the final 9 that is just before the Z. I actually have three places in this document where I need this constructed example, believe it or not! Anyway, I don't seem to be able to eliminate the space _after_ that digit with the dot using the method you describe unless I am overlooking something simple? The first example above shows as 19.1 345 i.e., a space after the 1 and the 5 - the digits that have the dots, and the second example shows as 10.999 Z. BTW, with a little bit of experimentation, I was able to change the font of the number in the equation to match the other test, so that worked our pretty well (not perfect spacing - particularly after the number with the dot - but usable). I have similar problems positioning diacritics in Canadian Aboriginal languages. I use the Rubi ((Special-Rubi)functionality to enter the diacritics required, and then I move them into place using the alt-arrow method described. The advantage is that Frame treats the combination as a single letter. - Might not work for some of the placements you need, though. Cheers, Mike ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: recurring decimals (1 FM8 file attached)
Ah! Dummy me ... please ignore my previous e-mail. It is late at night, and I forgot to do the Apply after changing the font _size_ just on that dot. The Special-Rubi technique works best of all! I like the fact that it can be used to modify a single character, and I was able to position that dot just where I needed it. It also allows me to use the multi-digit recurring decimal fraction beautifully ... much better than using an equation actually, since I can apply the Rubi to both the leading and final digits of the recurrence separately and very easily! Thanks much! Z -Original Message- From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Syed Zaeem Hosain (syed.hos...@aeris.net) Sent: Saturday, April 17, 2010 11:04 PM To: mkopen; framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: RE: recurring decimals (1 FM8 file attached) Hi, Mike. I tried the Rubi capability out and it seems like it would work for me, if I solve one minor problem. So, I'd appreciate your comments on this issue. I used the Special-Rubi function (for example, on the final char 9 in the word 10.999Z) and used the period for the dot. Pretty cool! _But_, the size of this dot is pretty small, barely visible, and I have not been able to adjust its size to make it larger. Is there a special way to do this size increase? Thanks! Z -Original Message- From: mkopen [mailto:mko...@transversant.ca] Sent: Friday, April 16, 2010 11:21 AM To: framers@lists.frameusers.com Cc: Syed Zaeem Hosain (syed.hos...@aeris.net) Subject: Re: recurring decimals (1 FM8 file attached) Syed, you wrote That method actually worked very well in certain places in my document, but I have a problem with it in a few others. In some cases, the dot needs to be above the number, but the very next character is either another number or a letter. For example (contrived but real samples here): 19.1345... Where a dot needs to be above _both_ the 1 and the 5, or: 10.999Z Where the dot is above the final 9 that is just before the Z. I actually have three places in this document where I need this constructed example, believe it or not! Anyway, I don't seem to be able to eliminate the space _after_ that digit with the dot using the method you describe unless I am overlooking something simple? The first example above shows as 19.1 345 i.e., a space after the 1 and the 5 - the digits that have the dots, and the second example shows as 10.999 Z. BTW, with a little bit of experimentation, I was able to change the font of the number in the equation to match the other test, so that worked our pretty well (not perfect spacing - particularly after the number with the dot - but usable). I have similar problems positioning diacritics in Canadian Aboriginal languages. I use the Rubi ((Special-Rubi)functionality to enter the diacritics required, and then I move them into place using the alt-arrow method described. The advantage is that Frame treats the combination as a single letter. - Might not work for some of the placements you need, though. Cheers, Mike ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: recurring decimals (1 FM8 file attached)
Syed, you wrote That method actually worked very well in certain places in my document, but I have a problem with it in a few others. In some cases, the dot needs to be above the number, but the very next character is either another number or a letter. For example (contrived but real samples here): 19.1345... Where a dot needs to be above _both_ the 1 and the 5, or: 10.999Z Where the dot is above the final 9 that is just before the Z. I actually have three places in this document where I need this constructed example, believe it or not! Anyway, I don't seem to be able to eliminate the space _after_ that digit with the dot using the method you describe unless I am overlooking something simple? The first example above shows as 19.1 345 i.e., a space after the 1 and the 5 - the digits that have the dots, and the second example shows as 10.999 Z. BTW, with a little bit of experimentation, I was able to change the font of the number in the equation to match the other test, so that worked our pretty well (not perfect spacing - particularly after the number with the dot - but usable). I have similar problems positioning diacritics in Canadian Aboriginal languages. I use the Rubi ((Special-Rubi)functionality to enter the diacritics required, and then I move them into place using the alt-arrow method described. The advantage is that Frame treats the combination as a single letter. - Might not work for some of the placements you need, though. Cheers, Mike London Canada ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: recurring decimals (1 FM8 file attached)
Hmmm ... I am not familiar with the Rubi functionality at all. I will do some reading on it - it appears to be something new in FrameMaker 9, I guess since I don't remember it in earlier versions at all. Thanks much for the response! Z -Original Message- From: mkopen [mailto:mko...@transversant.ca] Sent: Friday, April 16, 2010 11:21 AM To: framers@lists.frameusers.com Cc: Syed Zaeem Hosain (syed.hos...@aeris.net) Subject: Re: recurring decimals (1 FM8 file attached) Syed, you wrote That method actually worked very well in certain places in my document, but I have a problem with it in a few others. In some cases, the dot needs to be above the number, but the very next character is either another number or a letter. For example (contrived but real samples here): 19.1345... Where a dot needs to be above _both_ the 1 and the 5, or: 10.999Z Where the dot is above the final 9 that is just before the Z. I actually have three places in this document where I need this constructed example, believe it or not! Anyway, I don't seem to be able to eliminate the space _after_ that digit with the dot using the method you describe unless I am overlooking something simple? The first example above shows as 19.1 345 i.e., a space after the 1 and the 5 - the digits that have the dots, and the second example shows as 10.999 Z. BTW, with a little bit of experimentation, I was able to change the font of the number in the equation to match the other test, so that worked our pretty well (not perfect spacing - particularly after the number with the dot - but usable). I have similar problems positioning diacritics in Canadian Aboriginal languages. I use the Rubi ((Special-Rubi)functionality to enter the diacritics required, and then I move them into place using the alt-arrow method described. The advantage is that Frame treats the combination as a single letter. - Might not work for some of the placements you need, though. Cheers, Mike London Canada ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: recurring decimals (1 FM8 file attached)
Hi, Klaus. Thanks! That method actually worked very well in certain places in my document, but I have a problem with it in a few others. In some cases, the dot needs to be above the number, but the very next character is either another number or a letter. For example (contrived but real samples here): 19.1345... Where a dot needs to be above _both_ the 1 and the 5, or: 10.999Z Where the dot is above the final 9 that is just before the Z. I actually have three places in this document where I need this constructed example, believe it or not! :) Anyway, I don't seem to be able to eliminate the space _after_ that digit with the dot using the method you describe unless I am overlooking something simple? The first example above shows as 19.1 345 i.e., a space after the 1 and the 5 - the digits that have the dots, and the second example shows as 10.999 Z. BTW, with a little bit of experimentation, I was able to change the font of the number in the equation to match the other test, so that worked our pretty well (not perfect spacing - particularly after the number with the dot - but usable). Finally, I was unable to get to that link in your e-mail below ... is that a correct link to your example? Thanks for the assistance! Z -Original Message- From: Klaus Daube [mailto:kl...@daube.ch] Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2010 2:57 AM To: Syed Zaeem Hosain (syed.hos...@aeris.net); framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: Re: recurring decimals (1 FM8 file attached) On 13 Apr 2010 at 17:53, Syed Zaeem Hosain (syed.hos...@aeris.net) wrote: This document is written in English (specifically, Palatino Linotype for general text and Consolas fonts in certain places) and have a need to add the recurring decimal dot above a number. (There isn't any current need to change this document into another language, by the way.) Since the equation fonts may be different to your text fonts, you may try another method: - type the number 1.333 and after the last figure a period and a blank. - select the period - move the period over the last figure with ALT+arrow or for larger amounts of dislocation ALT+SHIFT+arrow. Unfortunately this dislocation can not be captured into a character format but with the help of MIF such a format can be defined. See my attached FM 8 file. Until sunday I will place this on my website at http://www.daube.ch/docu/fmaker58.html Godd luck Klaus Daube ~~ Docu + Design Daube; Schäracher 11; CH-8053 Zürich Technical documentation consultancy; On-line and paper F: +41-44-422 86 25 E: d...@daube.ch W: www.daube.ch ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
