RE: [FrameMaker ] Text skipping from right to left column

2013-09-30 Thread Reng, Dr. Winfried 
Hi Bödvar,

I do not encounter this bug every week. Only now and then.
My feeling is that this bug turns up only in some documents
on certain pages and there again and again. I work in the
structured interface although my files are not structured.
The files can be rather small (only a few pages) up to 100 pages.
Therefore I doubt whether memory is involved. (My PC has 4 GB.)
And my files reside on our network (which did not cause any problems
yet).

I will check all this when I notice this issue again.

Best regards

Winfried

From: Böðvar Björgvinsson [mailto:bod...@gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, September 30, 2013 5:08 PM
To: Reng, Dr. Winfried
Cc: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Re: [FrameMaker ] Text skipping from right to left column

Sorry, I didn't realize. (Slapping my mouth! No, fingers!) Never saw this in my 
FM 7, 7.2 or 10.

Can this have anything to do with sloppy memory (not mine! the computer's)? Any 
havy graphics? Structured mode (returns less memory back, I understand)? I have 
seen the strangest things happen when the computer is losing control of its 
memory.

Bodvar

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On Mon, Sep 30, 2013 at 1:40 PM, Reng, Dr. Winfried 
mailto:wr...@tycoint.com>> wrote:
Hi Bödvar,

This is not only a fault, this is a nasty bug.
Or how do you name it, if some lines from the end
of the _second_ column are moved to the end of the
_first_ column.
Column 1 is filled with text, then column 2, and at the
end of column 1 you have some lines out of any context.
These lines are moved from the end of column 2.

Yes. Balance Columns is activated. But that's what I want to keep.
The orphan/widow setting should not cause such a strange effect.

I had responded to a post on the Adobe forum, but accidentally
not on the Adobe forum but to this mailing list.

Best regards

Winfried


From: Böðvar Björgvinsson [mailto:bod...@gmail.com<mailto:bod...@gmail.com>]
Sent: Monday, September 30, 2013 2:42 PM
To: Reng, Dr. Winfried
Cc: framers@lists.frameusers.com<mailto:framers@lists.frameusers.com>
Subject: Re: [FrameMaker ] Text skipping from right to left column

This is not some fault, this only shows that you have set the columns to 
balance (probably the default). Uncheck and the left column will fill before 
anything is added to the right (or next) column, and then it will stay filled.

Also notice that the balancing is also governed by the settings of the settings 
of orphan/widow settings of the paragraphs.

HTH,
Bodvar Bjorgvinsson




On Mon, Sep 30, 2013 at 7:37 AM, Reng, Dr. Winfried 
mailto:wr...@tycoint.com>> wrote:
Hi Carstens,

Yes. I also have this problem from time to time.
I noticed this with FrameMaker 10 and now also with
FrameMaker 11. Extremely annoying. How can you
rely on that the text is where it is supposed to be
with such a bug.

MIF washing fixes this issue. However, not for long ...

Or deactivate the setting "Balance Columns" in your
main text frame.

Best regards

Winfried

From: Carsten86 
[mailto:forums_nore...@adobe.com<mailto:forums_nore...@adobe.com>]
Sent: Monday, September 30, 2013 9:31 AM
To: Reng, Dr. Winfried
Subject: [FrameMaker ] Text skipping from right to left column

Text skipping from right to left column
created by Carsten86<http://forums.adobe.com/people/Carsten86> in FrameMaker - 
View the full discussion<http://forums.adobe.com/message/5724157#5724157>


I have a problem where sometimes if I'm working on a document with two columns 
on the same page, if the left column is not filled to the bottom, text from the 
bottom of the right column skips to the left. Has anyone else had this problem?



The page may look correct in Framemaker, but on export to Postscript, it 
happens, and sometimes it can be incredibly hard to notice before sending the 
file to the client.



Hope someone can shed some light on this :)

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Re: [FrameMaker ] Text skipping from right to left column

2013-09-30 Thread Böðvar Björgvinsson 
Sorry, I didn't realize. (Slapping my mouth! No, fingers!) Never saw this
in my FM 7, 7.2 or 10.

Can this have anything to do with sloppy memory (not mine! the computer's)?
Any havy graphics? Structured mode (returns less memory back, I
understand)? I have seen the strangest things happen when the computer is
losing control of its memory.

Bodvar






On Mon, Sep 30, 2013 at 1:40 PM, Reng, Dr. Winfried wrote:

>  Hi Bödvar,
>
>
>
> This is not only a fault, this is a nasty bug.
>
> Or how do you name it, if some lines from the end
>
> of the _*second*_ column are moved to the end of the
>
> _*first*_ column.
>
> Column 1 is filled with text, then column 2, and at the
>
> end of column 1 you have some lines out of any context.
>
> These lines are moved from the end of column 2.
>
>
>
> Yes. Balance Columns is activated. But that’s what I want to keep.
>
> The orphan/widow setting should not cause such a strange effect.
>
>
>
> I had responded to a post on the Adobe forum, but accidentally
>
> not on the Adobe forum but to this mailing list.
>
>
>
> Best regards
>
>
>
> Winfried
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* Böðvar Björgvinsson [mailto:bod...@gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Monday, September 30, 2013 2:42 PM
> *To:* Reng, Dr. Winfried
> *Cc:* framers@lists.frameusers.com
> *Subject:* Re: [FrameMaker ] Text skipping from right to left column
>
>
>
> This is not some fault, this only shows that you have set the columns to
> balance (probably the default). Uncheck and the left column will fill
> before anything is added to the right (or next) column, and then it will
> stay filled.
>
>
>
> Also notice that the balancing is also governed by the settings of the
> settings of orphan/widow settings of the paragraphs.
>
>
>
> HTH,
>
> Bodvar Bjorgvinsson
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Mon, Sep 30, 2013 at 7:37 AM, Reng, Dr. Winfried 
> wrote:
>
> Hi Carstens,
>
>
>
> Yes. I also have this problem from time to time.
>
> I noticed this with FrameMaker 10 and now also with
>
> FrameMaker 11. Extremely annoying. How can you
>
> rely on that the text is where it is supposed to be
>
> with such a bug.
>
>
>
> MIF washing fixes this issue. However, not for long ...
>
>
>
> Or deactivate the setting „Balance Columns“ in your
>
> main text frame.
>
>
>
> Best regards
>
>
>
> Winfried
>
>
>
> *From:* Carsten86 [mailto:forums_nore...@adobe.com]
> *Sent:* Monday, September 30, 2013 9:31 AM
> *To:* Reng, Dr. Winfried
> *Subject:* [FrameMaker ] Text skipping from right to left column
>
>
>Text skipping from right to left column
>
> created by Carsten86 <http://forums.adobe.com/people/Carsten86> in *FrameMaker
> *- View the full discussion<http://forums.adobe.com/message/5724157#5724157>
>  --
>
> I have a problem where sometimes if I'm working on a document with two
> columns on the same page, if the left column is not filled to the bottom,
> text from the bottom of the right column skips to the left. Has anyone else
> had this problem?
>
>
>
> The page may look correct in Framemaker, but on export to Postscript, it
> happens, and sometimes it can be incredibly hard to notice before sending
> the file to the client.
>
>
>
> Hope someone can shed some light on this :)
>
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RE: [FrameMaker ] Text skipping from right to left column

2013-09-30 Thread Reng, Dr. Winfried 
Hi Bödvar,

This is not only a fault, this is a nasty bug.
Or how do you name it, if some lines from the end
of the _second_ column are moved to the end of the
_first_ column.
Column 1 is filled with text, then column 2, and at the
end of column 1 you have some lines out of any context.
These lines are moved from the end of column 2.

Yes. Balance Columns is activated. But that's what I want to keep.
The orphan/widow setting should not cause such a strange effect.

I had responded to a post on the Adobe forum, but accidentally
not on the Adobe forum but to this mailing list.

Best regards

Winfried


From: Böðvar Björgvinsson [mailto:bod...@gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, September 30, 2013 2:42 PM
To: Reng, Dr. Winfried
Cc: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Re: [FrameMaker ] Text skipping from right to left column

This is not some fault, this only shows that you have set the columns to 
balance (probably the default). Uncheck and the left column will fill before 
anything is added to the right (or next) column, and then it will stay filled.

Also notice that the balancing is also governed by the settings of the settings 
of orphan/widow settings of the paragraphs.

HTH,
Bodvar Bjorgvinsson

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On Mon, Sep 30, 2013 at 7:37 AM, Reng, Dr. Winfried 
mailto:wr...@tycoint.com>> wrote:
Hi Carstens,

Yes. I also have this problem from time to time.
I noticed this with FrameMaker 10 and now also with
FrameMaker 11. Extremely annoying. How can you
rely on that the text is where it is supposed to be
with such a bug.

MIF washing fixes this issue. However, not for long ...

Or deactivate the setting "Balance Columns" in your
main text frame.

Best regards

Winfried

From: Carsten86 
[mailto:forums_nore...@adobe.com<mailto:forums_nore...@adobe.com>]
Sent: Monday, September 30, 2013 9:31 AM
To: Reng, Dr. Winfried
Subject: [FrameMaker ] Text skipping from right to left column

Text skipping from right to left column
created by Carsten86<http://forums.adobe.com/people/Carsten86> in FrameMaker - 
View the full discussion<http://forums.adobe.com/message/5724157#5724157>


I have a problem where sometimes if I'm working on a document with two columns 
on the same page, if the left column is not filled to the bottom, text from the 
bottom of the right column skips to the left. Has anyone else had this problem?



The page may look correct in Framemaker, but on export to Postscript, it 
happens, and sometimes it can be incredibly hard to notice before sending the 
file to the client.



Hope someone can shed some light on this :)

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Re: [FrameMaker ] Text skipping from right to left column

2013-09-30 Thread Böðvar Björgvinsson 
This is not some fault, this only shows that you have set the columns to
balance (probably the default). Uncheck and the left column will fill
before anything is added to the right (or next) column, and then it will
stay filled.

Also notice that the balancing is also governed by the settings of the
settings of orphan/widow settings of the paragraphs.

HTH,
Bodvar Bjorgvinsson






On Mon, Sep 30, 2013 at 7:37 AM, Reng, Dr. Winfried wrote:

>  Hi Carstens,
>
>
>
> Yes. I also have this problem from time to time.
>
> I noticed this with FrameMaker 10 and now also with
>
> FrameMaker 11. Extremely annoying. How can you
>
> rely on that the text is where it is supposed to be
>
> with such a bug.
>
>
>
> MIF washing fixes this issue. However, not for long ...
>
>
>
> Or deactivate the setting „Balance Columns“ in your
>
> main text frame.
>
>
>
> Best regards
>
>
>
> Winfried
>
>
>
> *From:* Carsten86 [mailto:forums_nore...@adobe.com]
> *Sent:* Monday, September 30, 2013 9:31 AM
> *To:* Reng, Dr. Winfried
> *Subject:* [FrameMaker ] Text skipping from right to left column
>
>
>Text skipping from right to left column
>
> created by Carsten86  in *FrameMaker
> *- View the full discussion
>  --
>
> I have a problem where sometimes if I'm working on a document with two
> columns on the same page, if the left column is not filled to the bottom,
> text from the bottom of the right column skips to the left. Has anyone else
> had this problem?
>
>
>
> The page may look correct in Framemaker, but on export to Postscript, it
> happens, and sometimes it can be incredibly hard to notice before sending
> the file to the client.
>
>
>
> Hope someone can shed some light on this :)
>
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RE: [FrameMaker ] Text skipping from right to left column

2013-09-30 Thread Reng, Dr. Winfried 
Hi Carstens,

Yes. I also have this problem from time to time.
I noticed this with FrameMaker 10 and now also with
FrameMaker 11. Extremely annoying. How can you
rely on that the text is where it is supposed to be
with such a bug.

MIF washing fixes this issue. However, not for long ...

Or deactivate the setting „Balance Columns“ in your
main text frame.

Best regards

Winfried

From: Carsten86 [mailto:forums_nore...@adobe.com]
Sent: Monday, September 30, 2013 9:31 AM
To: Reng, Dr. Winfried
Subject: [FrameMaker ] Text skipping from right to left column

Text skipping from right to left column
created by Carsten86 in FrameMaker - 
View the full discussion


I have a problem where sometimes if I'm working on a document with two columns 
on the same page, if the left column is not filled to the bottom, text from the 
bottom of the right column skips to the left. Has anyone else had this problem?



The page may look correct in Framemaker, but on export to Postscript, it 
happens, and sometimes it can be incredibly hard to notice before sending the 
file to the client.



Hope someone can shed some light on this :)

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