Re: [Framers] Font Size in Index Marker Pod (FRMAKER-2451)

[Craig, Alison]

But there does seem to be a difference in the font tracking/kerning - and it's 
much more readable in the 2015 version.

Alison Craig
Technical Documentation Specialist
BK Ultrasound | acr...@bkultrasound.com

From: Framers 
[mailto:framers-bounces+acraig=bkultrasound@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf 
Of Rick Quatro
Sent: Monday, March 20, 2017 9:05 AM
To: 'An email list for people using Adobe FrameMaker software.'
Subject: Re: [Framers] Font Size in Index Marker Pod (FRMAKER-2451)

OK, this makes more sense. If you have a 4K screen, then you will definitely
see a difference between 2015 and 2017. But the way I read Dave's original
post, this isn't the issue he is referring to. He considers the text in the
2015 Marker pod to be too small and it's not because he is using a 4K
monitor. On other non-high resolution monitors, he will see no size
difference between 2015 and 2017.

Rick

-Original Message-
From: Framers
[mailto:framers-bounces+rick=rickquatro@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf
Of Alan Houser
Sent: Monday, March 20, 2017 11:54 AM
To: framers@lists.frameusers.com<mailto:framers@lists.frameusers.com>
Subject: Re: [Framers] Font Size in Index Marker Pod (FRMAKER-2451)

Here's a comparison of Marker dialogs in FM2015 and FM2017 at default size
on a 4k monitor. My results are similar to Stefan's. Pixel real-estate of
this and similar dialogs is increased by 4x in FM2017.

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/17580102/IndexMarker_FM2015-FM2017.png

-Alan


On 3/20/17 11:29 AM, Scott Prentice wrote:
> I think that the big changes are only apparent for those with high-res
> screens. Would be interesting to see a side-by-side from someone with
> a 4k. Perhaps that's what Stefan's screenshots came from.
>
>
> On 3/20/17 8:02 AM, Rick Quatro wrote:
>> That is interesting. The font used on the 2015 side actually looks a
>> little more "editing-friendly."
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Framers
>> [mailto:framers-bounces+rick=rickquatro@lists.frameusers.com] On
>> Behalf Of Scott Prentice
>> Sent: Monday, March 20, 2017 10:46 AM
>> To: framers@lists.frameusers.com<mailto:framers@lists.frameusers.com>
>> Subject: Re: [Framers] Font Size in Index Marker Pod (FRMAKER-2451)
>>
>> Interesting. On my 15" screen, here's what I see ..
>>
>> http://leximation.com/outbox/fm13-14-marker-dialog.png
>>
>> Since both pods/panels/dialogs are resizable, I've made them both as
>> small as possible. The FM2017 text is slightly taller but narrower.
>>
>> Perhaps the text size or font changes with screen size or resolution?
>>
>> ...scott
>>
>>
>> On 3/20/17 6:57 AM, Rick Quatro wrote:
>>> Here is how it looks on my 22" monitor. The 2015 pod is on the left
>>> and the
>>> 2017 pod is on the right. The 2017 pod is bigger but the text is not.
>>>
>>> http://www.rickquatro.com/resources/2015_2017.png
>>>
>>> Rick Quatro
>>> Carmen Publishing Inc.
>>> r...@frameexpert.com<mailto:r...@frameexpert.com>
>>> 585-366-4017
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: Framers
>>> [mailto:framers-bounces+rick=rickquatro@lists.frameusers.com] On
>>> Behalf Of Stefan Gentz
>>> Sent: Monday, March 20, 2017 9:42 AM
>>> To: An email list for people using Adobe FrameMaker software.
>>> Subject: Re: [Framers] Font Size in Index Marker Pod (FRMAKER-2451)
>>>
>>> Seems, the formatting and screenshot got lost.
>>>
>>> You can see the side by side comparison of the (index) marker dialog
>>> in FM
>>> 2015 and 2017 here:
>>>
>>> http://blogs.adobe.com/techcomm/marker-dialog-fm2015-vs-2017
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Stefan Gentz
>>> Adobe Worldwide TechComm Evangelist
>>> Connect with us:
>>> Facebook | Twitter | LinkedIn | YouTube | Our Blog | Adobe
>>> TCS User Forum

--
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Consultant and Trainer, Technical Publishing arh on Twitter
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Re: [Framers] Font Size in Index Marker Pod (FRMAKER-2451)

[Rick Quatro]

OK, this makes more sense. If you have a 4K screen, then you will definitely
see a difference between 2015 and 2017. But the way I read Dave's original
post, this isn't the issue he is referring to. He considers the text in the
2015 Marker pod to be too small and it's not because he is using a 4K
monitor. On other non-high resolution monitors, he will see no size
difference between 2015 and 2017.

Rick

-Original Message-
From: Framers
[mailto:framers-bounces+rick=rickquatro@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf
Of Alan Houser
Sent: Monday, March 20, 2017 11:54 AM
To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Re: [Framers] Font Size in Index Marker Pod (FRMAKER-2451)

Here's a comparison of Marker dialogs in FM2015 and FM2017 at default size
on a 4k monitor. My results are similar to Stefan's. Pixel real-estate of
this and similar dialogs is increased by 4x in FM2017.

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/17580102/IndexMarker_FM2015-FM2017.png

-Alan


On 3/20/17 11:29 AM, Scott Prentice wrote:
> I think that the big changes are only apparent for those with high-res 
> screens. Would be interesting to see a side-by-side from someone with 
> a 4k. Perhaps that's what Stefan's screenshots came from.
>
>
> On 3/20/17 8:02 AM, Rick Quatro wrote:
>> That is interesting. The font used on the 2015 side actually looks a 
>> little more "editing-friendly."
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Framers
>> [mailto:framers-bounces+rick=rickquatro@lists.frameusers.com] On 
>> Behalf Of Scott Prentice
>> Sent: Monday, March 20, 2017 10:46 AM
>> To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
>> Subject: Re: [Framers] Font Size in Index Marker Pod (FRMAKER-2451)
>>
>> Interesting. On my 15" screen, here's what I see ..
>>
>>   http://leximation.com/outbox/fm13-14-marker-dialog.png
>>
>> Since both pods/panels/dialogs are resizable, I've made them both as 
>> small as possible. The FM2017 text is slightly taller but narrower.
>>
>> Perhaps the text size or font changes with screen size or resolution?
>>
>> ...scott
>>
>>
>> On 3/20/17 6:57 AM, Rick Quatro wrote:
>>> Here is how it looks on my 22" monitor. The 2015 pod is on the left 
>>> and the
>>> 2017 pod is on the right. The 2017 pod is bigger but the text is not.
>>>
>>> http://www.rickquatro.com/resources/2015_2017.png
>>>
>>> Rick Quatro
>>> Carmen Publishing Inc.
>>> r...@frameexpert.com
>>> 585-366-4017
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-
>>> From: Framers
>>> [mailto:framers-bounces+rick=rickquatro@lists.frameusers.com] On 
>>> Behalf Of Stefan Gentz
>>> Sent: Monday, March 20, 2017 9:42 AM
>>> To: An email list for people using Adobe FrameMaker software.
>>> Subject: Re: [Framers] Font Size in Index Marker Pod (FRMAKER-2451)
>>>
>>> Seems, the formatting and screenshot got lost.
>>>
>>> You can see the side by side comparison of the (index) marker dialog 
>>> in FM
>>> 2015 and 2017 here:
>>>
>>> http://blogs.adobe.com/techcomm/marker-dialog-fm2015-vs-2017
>>>
>>>Regards,
>>> Stefan Gentz
>>> Adobe Worldwide TechComm Evangelist
>>> Connect with us:
>>>Facebook |  Twitter |  LinkedIn |  YouTube |  Our Blog | Adobe 
>>> TCS User Forum

--
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Re: [Framers] Font Size in Index Marker Pod (FRMAKER-2451)

[Alan Houser]

Here's a comparison of Marker dialogs in FM2015 and FM2017 at default 
size on a 4k monitor. My results are similar to Stefan's. Pixel 
real-estate of this and similar dialogs is increased by 4x in FM2017.


https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/17580102/IndexMarker_FM2015-FM2017.png

-Alan


On 3/20/17 11:29 AM, Scott Prentice wrote:
I think that the big changes are only apparent for those with high-res 
screens. Would be interesting to see a side-by-side from someone with 
a 4k. Perhaps that's what Stefan's screenshots came from.



On 3/20/17 8:02 AM, Rick Quatro wrote:
That is interesting. The font used on the 2015 side actually looks a 
little

more "editing-friendly."

-Original Message-
From: Framers
[mailto:framers-bounces+rick=rickquatro@lists.frameusers.com] On 
Behalf

Of Scott Prentice
Sent: Monday, March 20, 2017 10:46 AM
To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Re: [Framers] Font Size in Index Marker Pod (FRMAKER-2451)

Interesting. On my 15" screen, here's what I see ..

  http://leximation.com/outbox/fm13-14-marker-dialog.png

Since both pods/panels/dialogs are resizable, I've made them both as 
small

as possible. The FM2017 text is slightly taller but narrower.

Perhaps the text size or font changes with screen size or resolution?

...scott


On 3/20/17 6:57 AM, Rick Quatro wrote:

Here is how it looks on my 22" monitor. The 2015 pod is on the left
and the
2017 pod is on the right. The 2017 pod is bigger but the text is not.

http://www.rickquatro.com/resources/2015_2017.png

Rick Quatro
Carmen Publishing Inc.
r...@frameexpert.com
585-366-4017




-Original Message-
From: Framers
[mailto:framers-bounces+rick=rickquatro@lists.frameusers.com] On
Behalf Of Stefan Gentz
Sent: Monday, March 20, 2017 9:42 AM
To: An email list for people using Adobe FrameMaker software.
Subject: Re: [Framers] Font Size in Index Marker Pod (FRMAKER-2451)

Seems, the formatting and screenshot got lost.

You can see the side by side comparison of the (index) marker dialog
in FM
2015 and 2017 here:

http://blogs.adobe.com/techcomm/marker-dialog-fm2015-vs-2017

   Regards,
Stefan Gentz
Adobe Worldwide TechComm Evangelist
Connect with us:
   Facebook |  Twitter |  LinkedIn |  YouTube |  Our Blog | Adobe TCS
User Forum


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arh on Twitter
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Re: [Framers] Font Size in Index Marker Pod (FRMAKER-2451)

[Scott Prentice]

I think that the big changes are only apparent for those with high-res 
screens. Would be interesting to see a side-by-side from someone with a 
4k. Perhaps that's what Stefan's screenshots came from.



On 3/20/17 8:02 AM, Rick Quatro wrote:

That is interesting. The font used on the 2015 side actually looks a little
more "editing-friendly."

-Original Message-
From: Framers
[mailto:framers-bounces+rick=rickquatro@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf
Of Scott Prentice
Sent: Monday, March 20, 2017 10:46 AM
To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Re: [Framers] Font Size in Index Marker Pod (FRMAKER-2451)

Interesting. On my 15" screen, here's what I see ..

  http://leximation.com/outbox/fm13-14-marker-dialog.png

Since both pods/panels/dialogs are resizable, I've made them both as small
as possible. The FM2017 text is slightly taller but narrower.

Perhaps the text size or font changes with screen size or resolution?

...scott


On 3/20/17 6:57 AM, Rick Quatro wrote:

Here is how it looks on my 22" monitor. The 2015 pod is on the left
and the
2017 pod is on the right. The 2017 pod is bigger but the text is not.

http://www.rickquatro.com/resources/2015_2017.png

Rick Quatro
Carmen Publishing Inc.
r...@frameexpert.com
585-366-4017




-Original Message-
From: Framers
[mailto:framers-bounces+rick=rickquatro@lists.frameusers.com] On
Behalf Of Stefan Gentz
Sent: Monday, March 20, 2017 9:42 AM
To: An email list for people using Adobe FrameMaker software.
Subject: Re: [Framers] Font Size in Index Marker Pod (FRMAKER-2451)

Seems, the formatting and screenshot got lost.

You can see the side by side comparison of the (index) marker dialog
in FM
2015 and 2017 here:

http://blogs.adobe.com/techcomm/marker-dialog-fm2015-vs-2017

   
Regards,

Stefan Gentz
Adobe Worldwide TechComm Evangelist

Connect with us:

   Facebook |  Twitter |  LinkedIn |  YouTube |  Our Blog |  Adobe TCS
User Forum
   


-Original Message-
From: Framers
[mailto:framers-bounces+gentz=adobe@lists.frameusers.com]
On Behalf Of Stefan Gentz
Sent: Monday, March 20, 2017 14:37
To: An email list for people using Adobe FrameMaker software.
<framers@lists.frameusers.com>
Subject: Re: [Framers] Font Size in Index Marker Pod (FRMAKER-2451)

Just to give a side by side example:



[cid:image001.png@01D2A187.7C2EE270]





Regards,

Stefan Gentz

Adobe Worldwide TechComm Evangelist



Connect with us:

   Facebook |  Twitter |  LinkedIn |  YouTube |  Our Blog |  Adobe TCS
User Forum





-Original Message-
From: Stefan Gentz
Sent: Monday, March 20, 2017 14:33
To: 'An email list for people using Adobe FrameMaker software.'
<framers@lists.frameusers.com>
Subject: RE: [Framers] Font Size in Index Marker Pod (FRMAKER-2451)



No, what I said is, that we have changed the index marker pod in FM
2017. It is NOT the same as the one in FM 2015.

The font size is the same now as in all other dialogs where you have
editable text. It's not the same small size as in FM 2015 anymore.





Regards,

Stefan Gentz

Adobe Worldwide TechComm Evangelist





-Original Message-

From: Framers
[mailto:framers-bounces+gentz=adobe@lists.frameusers.com]
On Behalf Of Rick Quatro

Sent: Monday, March 20, 2017 14:02

To: 'An email list for people using Adobe FrameMaker software.'
<framers@lists.frameusers.com>

Subject: Re: [Framers] Font Size in Index Marker Pod (FRMAKER-2451)



Wait, don't misunderstand what Stefan is saying. The font size of the
marker window is the same in 2017 as it is in earlier versions. So you
will be very disappointed (and upset) if you upgrade to 2017 and
expect a larger font in the marker window.



-Original Message-

From: Framers

[mailto:framers-bounces+rick=rickquatro@lists.frameusers.com] On
Behalf Of Stamm, David

Sent: Monday, March 20, 2017 8:36 AM

To: An email list for people using Adobe FrameMaker software.

Subject: Re: [Framers] Font Size in Index Marker Pod (FRMAKER-2451)



2017-03-20-01T12:35Z



Stefan -



Thanks for this update.  Unfortunately, I have no idea whether (and if
so,

when) I will get FrameMaker 2017 Release.  I guess that the change you
reported is something I'll just have to look forward to.



Regards,

Dave Stamm

Information Engineer



-Original Message-

From: Framers

[mailto:framers-bounces+david.stamm=gd-ms@lists.frameusers.com] On
Behalf Of Stefan Gentz

Sent: 2017-03-19-Sunday 09:39

To: framers@lists.frameusers.com

Subject: [Framers] Font Size in Index Marker Pod (FRMAKER-2451)



Hi



In the last days there was some discussion about them index marker
text window.



David Stamm had file this in as an enhancement request:

https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Ftrack
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Re: [Framers] Font Size in Index Marker Pod (FRMAKER-2451)

[Rick Quatro]

That is interesting. The font used on the 2015 side actually looks a little
more "editing-friendly."

-Original Message-
From: Framers
[mailto:framers-bounces+rick=rickquatro@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf
Of Scott Prentice
Sent: Monday, March 20, 2017 10:46 AM
To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Re: [Framers] Font Size in Index Marker Pod (FRMAKER-2451)

Interesting. On my 15" screen, here's what I see ..

 http://leximation.com/outbox/fm13-14-marker-dialog.png

Since both pods/panels/dialogs are resizable, I've made them both as small
as possible. The FM2017 text is slightly taller but narrower.

Perhaps the text size or font changes with screen size or resolution?

...scott


On 3/20/17 6:57 AM, Rick Quatro wrote:
> Here is how it looks on my 22" monitor. The 2015 pod is on the left 
> and the
> 2017 pod is on the right. The 2017 pod is bigger but the text is not.
>
> http://www.rickquatro.com/resources/2015_2017.png
>
> Rick Quatro
> Carmen Publishing Inc.
> r...@frameexpert.com
> 585-366-4017
>
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Framers
> [mailto:framers-bounces+rick=rickquatro@lists.frameusers.com] On 
> Behalf Of Stefan Gentz
> Sent: Monday, March 20, 2017 9:42 AM
> To: An email list for people using Adobe FrameMaker software.
> Subject: Re: [Framers] Font Size in Index Marker Pod (FRMAKER-2451)
>
> Seems, the formatting and screenshot got lost.
>
> You can see the side by side comparison of the (index) marker dialog 
> in FM
> 2015 and 2017 here:
>
> http://blogs.adobe.com/techcomm/marker-dialog-fm2015-vs-2017
>
>   
> Regards,
> Stefan Gentz
> Adobe Worldwide TechComm Evangelist
>
> Connect with us:
>   Facebook |  Twitter |  LinkedIn |  YouTube |  Our Blog |  Adobe TCS 
> User Forum
>   
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Framers 
> [mailto:framers-bounces+gentz=adobe@lists.frameusers.com]
> On Behalf Of Stefan Gentz
> Sent: Monday, March 20, 2017 14:37
> To: An email list for people using Adobe FrameMaker software.
> <framers@lists.frameusers.com>
> Subject: Re: [Framers] Font Size in Index Marker Pod (FRMAKER-2451)
>
> Just to give a side by side example:
>
>
>
> [cid:image001.png@01D2A187.7C2EE270]
>
>
>
>
>
> Regards,
>
> Stefan Gentz
>
> Adobe Worldwide TechComm Evangelist
>
>
>
> Connect with us:
>
>   Facebook |  Twitter |  LinkedIn |  YouTube |  Our Blog |  Adobe TCS 
> User Forum
>
>
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Stefan Gentz
> Sent: Monday, March 20, 2017 14:33
> To: 'An email list for people using Adobe FrameMaker software.'
> <framers@lists.frameusers.com>
> Subject: RE: [Framers] Font Size in Index Marker Pod (FRMAKER-2451)
>
>
>
> No, what I said is, that we have changed the index marker pod in FM 
> 2017. It is NOT the same as the one in FM 2015.
>
> The font size is the same now as in all other dialogs where you have 
> editable text. It's not the same small size as in FM 2015 anymore.
>
>
>
>
>
> Regards,
>
> Stefan Gentz
>
> Adobe Worldwide TechComm Evangelist
>
>
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
>
> From: Framers 
> [mailto:framers-bounces+gentz=adobe@lists.frameusers.com]
> On Behalf Of Rick Quatro
>
> Sent: Monday, March 20, 2017 14:02
>
> To: 'An email list for people using Adobe FrameMaker software.'
> <framers@lists.frameusers.com>
>
> Subject: Re: [Framers] Font Size in Index Marker Pod (FRMAKER-2451)
>
>
>
> Wait, don't misunderstand what Stefan is saying. The font size of the 
> marker window is the same in 2017 as it is in earlier versions. So you 
> will be very disappointed (and upset) if you upgrade to 2017 and 
> expect a larger font in the marker window.
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
>
> From: Framers
>
> [mailto:framers-bounces+rick=rickquatro@lists.frameusers.com] On 
> Behalf Of Stamm, David
>
> Sent: Monday, March 20, 2017 8:36 AM
>
> To: An email list for people using Adobe FrameMaker software.
>
> Subject: Re: [Framers] Font Size in Index Marker Pod (FRMAKER-2451)
>
>
>
> 2017-03-20-01T12:35Z
>
>
>
> Stefan -
>
>
>
> Thanks for this update.  Unfortunately, I have no idea whether (and if 
> so,
>
> when) I will get FrameMaker 2017 Release.  I guess that the change you 
> reported is something I'll just have to look forward to.
>
>
>
> Regards,
>
> Dave Stamm
>
> Information Engineer
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
>
> From: Framers
>
> [mailto:framers-bounces+david.stamm=gd-ms@lists.frameusers.com] On 
> Behalf Of Stefan Gent

Re: [Framers] Font Size in Index Marker Pod (FRMAKER-2451)

[Scott Prentice]

Interesting. On my 15" screen, here's what I see ..

http://leximation.com/outbox/fm13-14-marker-dialog.png

Since both pods/panels/dialogs are resizable, I've made them both as 
small as possible. The FM2017 text is slightly taller but narrower.


Perhaps the text size or font changes with screen size or resolution?

...scott


On 3/20/17 6:57 AM, Rick Quatro wrote:

Here is how it looks on my 22" monitor. The 2015 pod is on the left and the
2017 pod is on the right. The 2017 pod is bigger but the text is not.

http://www.rickquatro.com/resources/2015_2017.png

Rick Quatro
Carmen Publishing Inc.
r...@frameexpert.com
585-366-4017




-Original Message-
From: Framers
[mailto:framers-bounces+rick=rickquatro@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf
Of Stefan Gentz
Sent: Monday, March 20, 2017 9:42 AM
To: An email list for people using Adobe FrameMaker software.
Subject: Re: [Framers] Font Size in Index Marker Pod (FRMAKER-2451)

Seems, the formatting and screenshot got lost.

You can see the side by side comparison of the (index) marker dialog in FM
2015 and 2017 here:

http://blogs.adobe.com/techcomm/marker-dialog-fm2015-vs-2017

  
Regards,

Stefan Gentz
Adobe Worldwide TechComm Evangelist
   
Connect with us:

  Facebook |  Twitter |  LinkedIn |  YouTube |  Our Blog |  Adobe TCS User
Forum
  


-Original Message-
From: Framers [mailto:framers-bounces+gentz=adobe@lists.frameusers.com]
On Behalf Of Stefan Gentz
Sent: Monday, March 20, 2017 14:37
To: An email list for people using Adobe FrameMaker software.
<framers@lists.frameusers.com>
Subject: Re: [Framers] Font Size in Index Marker Pod (FRMAKER-2451)

Just to give a side by side example:



[cid:image001.png@01D2A187.7C2EE270]





Regards,

Stefan Gentz

Adobe Worldwide TechComm Evangelist



Connect with us:

  Facebook |  Twitter |  LinkedIn |  YouTube |  Our Blog |  Adobe TCS User
Forum





-Original Message-
From: Stefan Gentz
Sent: Monday, March 20, 2017 14:33
To: 'An email list for people using Adobe FrameMaker software.'
<framers@lists.frameusers.com>
Subject: RE: [Framers] Font Size in Index Marker Pod (FRMAKER-2451)



No, what I said is, that we have changed the index marker pod in FM 2017. It
is NOT the same as the one in FM 2015.

The font size is the same now as in all other dialogs where you have
editable text. It's not the same small size as in FM 2015 anymore.





Regards,

Stefan Gentz

Adobe Worldwide TechComm Evangelist





-Original Message-

From: Framers [mailto:framers-bounces+gentz=adobe@lists.frameusers.com]
On Behalf Of Rick Quatro

Sent: Monday, March 20, 2017 14:02

To: 'An email list for people using Adobe FrameMaker software.'
<framers@lists.frameusers.com>

Subject: Re: [Framers] Font Size in Index Marker Pod (FRMAKER-2451)



Wait, don't misunderstand what Stefan is saying. The font size of the marker
window is the same in 2017 as it is in earlier versions. So you will be very
disappointed (and upset) if you upgrade to 2017 and expect a larger font in
the marker window.



-Original Message-

From: Framers

[mailto:framers-bounces+rick=rickquatro@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf
Of Stamm, David

Sent: Monday, March 20, 2017 8:36 AM

To: An email list for people using Adobe FrameMaker software.

Subject: Re: [Framers] Font Size in Index Marker Pod (FRMAKER-2451)



2017-03-20-01T12:35Z



Stefan -



Thanks for this update.  Unfortunately, I have no idea whether (and if so,

when) I will get FrameMaker 2017 Release.  I guess that the change you
reported is something I'll just have to look forward to.



Regards,

Dave Stamm

Information Engineer



-Original Message-

From: Framers

[mailto:framers-bounces+david.stamm=gd-ms@lists.frameusers.com] On
Behalf Of Stefan Gentz

Sent: 2017-03-19-Sunday 09:39

To: framers@lists.frameusers.com

Subject: [Framers] Font Size in Index Marker Pod (FRMAKER-2451)



Hi



In the last days there was some discussion about them index marker text
window.



David Stamm had file this in as an enhancement request:

https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Ftracker.ado
be.com%2F%23%2Fview%2FFRMAKER-2451=02%7C01%7C%7C0acefd5e491145419edf08d
46f916218%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178decee1%7C0%7C0%7C636256117585634345
ata=TOtaFEaHwlADwUVwiS4NBDH2n%2BTQhzTnQLb5z9kLP9s%3D=0



The marker window has changed in FM 2017 and is no in the same look and feel
like other pods. Also the font size is the same as in the text field of all
other dialogs:



[cid:image025.jpg@01D2A0BE.831E09E0]





In FrameMaker 2015 there was a different marker pod based on a different
technology.



@all: Please give me feedback, on what is different in the index marker
window for you that does make it more difficult to work with text in index
markers compared with other markers or text in other dialogs / pods.





Regards,

Stefan Gentz

Adobe Worldwide TechComm Evangelist

[Adobe]<http://www.adobe

Re: [Framers] Font Size in Index Marker Pod (FRMAKER-2451)

[Bernard Aschwanden (Publishing Smarter)]

Factor in screen resolutions as well. Then consider what "percent" your
Windows world is set to use. That may impact the comparison as well.

Bernard


-Original Message-
From: Framers
[mailto:framers-bounces+bernard=publishingsmarter@lists.frameusers.com]
On Behalf Of Scott Prentice
Sent: Monday, March 20, 2017 10:46 AM
To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Re: [Framers] Font Size in Index Marker Pod (FRMAKER-2451)

Interesting. On my 15" screen, here's what I see ..

 http://leximation.com/outbox/fm13-14-marker-dialog.png

Since both pods/panels/dialogs are resizable, I've made them both as small
as possible. The FM2017 text is slightly taller but narrower.

Perhaps the text size or font changes with screen size or resolution?

...scott


On 3/20/17 6:57 AM, Rick Quatro wrote:
> Here is how it looks on my 22" monitor. The 2015 pod is on the left 
> and the
> 2017 pod is on the right. The 2017 pod is bigger but the text is not.
>
> http://www.rickquatro.com/resources/2015_2017.png
>
> Rick Quatro
> Carmen Publishing Inc.
> r...@frameexpert.com
> 585-366-4017
>
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Framers
> [mailto:framers-bounces+rick=rickquatro@lists.frameusers.com] On 
> Behalf Of Stefan Gentz
> Sent: Monday, March 20, 2017 9:42 AM
> To: An email list for people using Adobe FrameMaker software.
> Subject: Re: [Framers] Font Size in Index Marker Pod (FRMAKER-2451)
>
> Seems, the formatting and screenshot got lost.
>
> You can see the side by side comparison of the (index) marker dialog 
> in FM
> 2015 and 2017 here:
>
> http://blogs.adobe.com/techcomm/marker-dialog-fm2015-vs-2017
>
>   
> Regards,
> Stefan Gentz
> Adobe Worldwide TechComm Evangelist
>
> Connect with us:
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> User Forum
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>
> -Original Message-
> From: Framers 
> [mailto:framers-bounces+gentz=adobe@lists.frameusers.com]
> On Behalf Of Stefan Gentz
> Sent: Monday, March 20, 2017 14:37
> To: An email list for people using Adobe FrameMaker software.
> <framers@lists.frameusers.com>
> Subject: Re: [Framers] Font Size in Index Marker Pod (FRMAKER-2451)
>
> Just to give a side by side example:
>
>
>
> [cid:image001.png@01D2A187.7C2EE270]
>
>
>
>
>
> Regards,
>
> Stefan Gentz
>
> Adobe Worldwide TechComm Evangelist
>
>
>
> Connect with us:
>
>   Facebook |  Twitter |  LinkedIn |  YouTube |  Our Blog |  Adobe TCS 
> User Forum
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>
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Stefan Gentz
> Sent: Monday, March 20, 2017 14:33
> To: 'An email list for people using Adobe FrameMaker software.'
> <framers@lists.frameusers.com>
> Subject: RE: [Framers] Font Size in Index Marker Pod (FRMAKER-2451)
>
>
>
> No, what I said is, that we have changed the index marker pod in FM 
> 2017. It is NOT the same as the one in FM 2015.
>
> The font size is the same now as in all other dialogs where you have 
> editable text. It's not the same small size as in FM 2015 anymore.
>
>
>
>
>
> Regards,
>
> Stefan Gentz
>
> Adobe Worldwide TechComm Evangelist
>
>
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
>
> From: Framers 
> [mailto:framers-bounces+gentz=adobe@lists.frameusers.com]
> On Behalf Of Rick Quatro
>
> Sent: Monday, March 20, 2017 14:02
>
> To: 'An email list for people using Adobe FrameMaker software.'
> <framers@lists.frameusers.com>
>
> Subject: Re: [Framers] Font Size in Index Marker Pod (FRMAKER-2451)
>
>
>
> Wait, don't misunderstand what Stefan is saying. The font size of the 
> marker window is the same in 2017 as it is in earlier versions. So you 
> will be very disappointed (and upset) if you upgrade to 2017 and 
> expect a larger font in the marker window.
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
>
> From: Framers
>
> [mailto:framers-bounces+rick=rickquatro@lists.frameusers.com] On 
> Behalf Of Stamm, David
>
> Sent: Monday, March 20, 2017 8:36 AM
>
> To: An email list for people using Adobe FrameMaker software.
>
> Subject: Re: [Framers] Font Size in Index Marker Pod (FRMAKER-2451)
>
>
>
> 2017-03-20-01T12:35Z
>
>
>
> Stefan -
>
>
>
> Thanks for this update.  Unfortunately, I have no idea whether (and if 
> so,
>
> when) I will get FrameMaker 2017 Release.  I guess that the change you 
> reported is something I'll just have to look forward to.
>
>
>
> Regards,
>
> Dave Stamm
>
> Information Engineer
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
>
> From: Framers
>
> [mailto:framers-bounces+d

Re: [Framers] Font Size in Index Marker Pod (FRMAKER-2451)

[Rick Quatro]

Here is how it looks on my 22" monitor. The 2015 pod is on the left and the
2017 pod is on the right. The 2017 pod is bigger but the text is not.

http://www.rickquatro.com/resources/2015_2017.png

Rick Quatro
Carmen Publishing Inc.
r...@frameexpert.com
585-366-4017




-Original Message-
From: Framers
[mailto:framers-bounces+rick=rickquatro@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf
Of Stefan Gentz
Sent: Monday, March 20, 2017 9:42 AM
To: An email list for people using Adobe FrameMaker software.
Subject: Re: [Framers] Font Size in Index Marker Pod (FRMAKER-2451)

Seems, the formatting and screenshot got lost.

You can see the side by side comparison of the (index) marker dialog in FM
2015 and 2017 here:

http://blogs.adobe.com/techcomm/marker-dialog-fm2015-vs-2017

 
Regards,
Stefan Gentz
Adobe Worldwide TechComm Evangelist
  
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-Original Message-
From: Framers [mailto:framers-bounces+gentz=adobe@lists.frameusers.com]
On Behalf Of Stefan Gentz
Sent: Monday, March 20, 2017 14:37
To: An email list for people using Adobe FrameMaker software.
<framers@lists.frameusers.com>
Subject: Re: [Framers] Font Size in Index Marker Pod (FRMAKER-2451)

Just to give a side by side example:



[cid:image001.png@01D2A187.7C2EE270]





Regards,

Stefan Gentz

Adobe Worldwide TechComm Evangelist



Connect with us:

 Facebook |  Twitter |  LinkedIn |  YouTube |  Our Blog |  Adobe TCS User
Forum





-Original Message-
From: Stefan Gentz
Sent: Monday, March 20, 2017 14:33
To: 'An email list for people using Adobe FrameMaker software.'
<framers@lists.frameusers.com>
Subject: RE: [Framers] Font Size in Index Marker Pod (FRMAKER-2451)



No, what I said is, that we have changed the index marker pod in FM 2017. It
is NOT the same as the one in FM 2015.

The font size is the same now as in all other dialogs where you have
editable text. It's not the same small size as in FM 2015 anymore.





Regards,

Stefan Gentz

Adobe Worldwide TechComm Evangelist





-Original Message-

From: Framers [mailto:framers-bounces+gentz=adobe@lists.frameusers.com]
On Behalf Of Rick Quatro

Sent: Monday, March 20, 2017 14:02

To: 'An email list for people using Adobe FrameMaker software.'
<framers@lists.frameusers.com>

Subject: Re: [Framers] Font Size in Index Marker Pod (FRMAKER-2451)



Wait, don't misunderstand what Stefan is saying. The font size of the marker
window is the same in 2017 as it is in earlier versions. So you will be very
disappointed (and upset) if you upgrade to 2017 and expect a larger font in
the marker window.



-Original Message-

From: Framers

[mailto:framers-bounces+rick=rickquatro@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf
Of Stamm, David

Sent: Monday, March 20, 2017 8:36 AM

To: An email list for people using Adobe FrameMaker software.

Subject: Re: [Framers] Font Size in Index Marker Pod (FRMAKER-2451)



2017-03-20-01T12:35Z



Stefan -



Thanks for this update.  Unfortunately, I have no idea whether (and if so,

when) I will get FrameMaker 2017 Release.  I guess that the change you
reported is something I'll just have to look forward to.



Regards,

Dave Stamm

Information Engineer



-Original Message-

From: Framers

[mailto:framers-bounces+david.stamm=gd-ms@lists.frameusers.com] On
Behalf Of Stefan Gentz

Sent: 2017-03-19-Sunday 09:39

To: framers@lists.frameusers.com

Subject: [Framers] Font Size in Index Marker Pod (FRMAKER-2451)



Hi



In the last days there was some discussion about them index marker text
window.



David Stamm had file this in as an enhancement request:

https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Ftracker.ado
be.com%2F%23%2Fview%2FFRMAKER-2451=02%7C01%7C%7C0acefd5e491145419edf08d
46f916218%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178decee1%7C0%7C0%7C636256117585634345
ata=TOtaFEaHwlADwUVwiS4NBDH2n%2BTQhzTnQLb5z9kLP9s%3D=0



The marker window has changed in FM 2017 and is no in the same look and feel
like other pods. Also the font size is the same as in the text field of all
other dialogs:



[cid:image025.jpg@01D2A0BE.831E09E0]





In FrameMaker 2015 there was a different marker pod based on a different
technology.



@all: Please give me feedback, on what is different in the index marker
window for you that does make it more difficult to work with text in index
markers compared with other markers or text in other dialogs / pods.





Regards,

Stefan Gentz

Adobe Worldwide TechComm Evangelist

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Re: [Framers] Font Size in Index Marker Pod (FRMAKER-2451)

[Stefan Gentz]

Seems, the formatting and screenshot got lost.

You can see the side by side comparison of the (index) marker dialog in FM 2015 
and 2017 here:

http://blogs.adobe.com/techcomm/marker-dialog-fm2015-vs-2017

 
Regards,
Stefan Gentz
Adobe Worldwide TechComm Evangelist
  
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-Original Message-
From: Framers [mailto:framers-bounces+gentz=adobe@lists.frameusers.com] On 
Behalf Of Stefan Gentz
Sent: Monday, March 20, 2017 14:37
To: An email list for people using Adobe FrameMaker software. 
<framers@lists.frameusers.com>
Subject: Re: [Framers] Font Size in Index Marker Pod (FRMAKER-2451)

Just to give a side by side example:



[cid:image001.png@01D2A187.7C2EE270]





Regards,

Stefan Gentz

Adobe Worldwide TechComm Evangelist



Connect with us:

 Facebook |  Twitter |  LinkedIn |  YouTube |  Our Blog |  Adobe TCS User Forum





-Original Message-
From: Stefan Gentz
Sent: Monday, March 20, 2017 14:33
To: 'An email list for people using Adobe FrameMaker software.' 
<framers@lists.frameusers.com>
Subject: RE: [Framers] Font Size in Index Marker Pod (FRMAKER-2451)



No, what I said is, that we have changed the index marker pod in FM 2017. It is 
NOT the same as the one in FM 2015.

The font size is the same now as in all other dialogs where you have editable 
text. It's not the same small size as in FM 2015 anymore.





Regards,

Stefan Gentz

Adobe Worldwide TechComm Evangelist





-Original Message-

From: Framers [mailto:framers-bounces+gentz=adobe@lists.frameusers.com] On 
Behalf Of Rick Quatro

Sent: Monday, March 20, 2017 14:02

To: 'An email list for people using Adobe FrameMaker software.' 
<framers@lists.frameusers.com>

Subject: Re: [Framers] Font Size in Index Marker Pod (FRMAKER-2451)



Wait, don't misunderstand what Stefan is saying. The font size of the marker 
window is the same in 2017 as it is in earlier versions. So you will be very 
disappointed (and upset) if you upgrade to 2017 and expect a larger font in the 
marker window.



-Original Message-

From: Framers

[mailto:framers-bounces+rick=rickquatro@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of 
Stamm, David

Sent: Monday, March 20, 2017 8:36 AM

To: An email list for people using Adobe FrameMaker software.

Subject: Re: [Framers] Font Size in Index Marker Pod (FRMAKER-2451)



2017-03-20-01T12:35Z



Stefan -



Thanks for this update.  Unfortunately, I have no idea whether (and if so,

when) I will get FrameMaker 2017 Release.  I guess that the change you reported 
is something I'll just have to look forward to.



Regards,

Dave Stamm

Information Engineer



-Original Message-

From: Framers

[mailto:framers-bounces+david.stamm=gd-ms@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf 
Of Stefan Gentz

Sent: 2017-03-19-Sunday 09:39

To: framers@lists.frameusers.com

Subject: [Framers] Font Size in Index Marker Pod (FRMAKER-2451)



Hi



In the last days there was some discussion about them index marker text window.



David Stamm had file this in as an enhancement request:

https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Ftracker.adobe.com%2F%23%2Fview%2FFRMAKER-2451=02%7C01%7C%7C0acefd5e491145419edf08d46f916218%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178decee1%7C0%7C0%7C636256117585634345=TOtaFEaHwlADwUVwiS4NBDH2n%2BTQhzTnQLb5z9kLP9s%3D=0



The marker window has changed in FM 2017 and is no in the same look and feel 
like other pods. Also the font size is the same as in the text field of all 
other dialogs:



[cid:image025.jpg@01D2A0BE.831E09E0]





In FrameMaker 2015 there was a different marker pod based on a different 
technology.



@all: Please give me feedback, on what is different in the index marker window 
for you that does make it more difficult to work with text in index markers 
compared with other markers or text in other dialogs / pods.





Regards,

Stefan Gentz

Adobe Worldwide TechComm Evangelist

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Re: [Framers] Font Size in Index Marker Pod (FRMAKER-2451)

[Stefan Gentz]

Just to give a side by side example:



[cid:image001.png@01D2A187.7C2EE270]





Regards,

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Adobe Worldwide TechComm Evangelist



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-Original Message-
From: Stefan Gentz
Sent: Monday, March 20, 2017 14:33
To: 'An email list for people using Adobe FrameMaker software.' 
<framers@lists.frameusers.com>
Subject: RE: [Framers] Font Size in Index Marker Pod (FRMAKER-2451)



No, what I said is, that we have changed the index marker pod in FM 2017. It is 
NOT the same as the one in FM 2015.

The font size is the same now as in all other dialogs where you have editable 
text. It's not the same small size as in FM 2015 anymore.





Regards,

Stefan Gentz

Adobe Worldwide TechComm Evangelist





-Original Message-

From: Framers [mailto:framers-bounces+gentz=adobe@lists.frameusers.com] On 
Behalf Of Rick Quatro

Sent: Monday, March 20, 2017 14:02

To: 'An email list for people using Adobe FrameMaker software.' 
<framers@lists.frameusers.com>

Subject: Re: [Framers] Font Size in Index Marker Pod (FRMAKER-2451)



Wait, don't misunderstand what Stefan is saying. The font size of the marker 
window is the same in 2017 as it is in earlier versions. So you will be very 
disappointed (and upset) if you upgrade to 2017 and expect a larger font in the 
marker window.



-Original Message-

From: Framers

[mailto:framers-bounces+rick=rickquatro@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of 
Stamm, David

Sent: Monday, March 20, 2017 8:36 AM

To: An email list for people using Adobe FrameMaker software.

Subject: Re: [Framers] Font Size in Index Marker Pod (FRMAKER-2451)



2017-03-20-01T12:35Z



Stefan -



Thanks for this update.  Unfortunately, I have no idea whether (and if so,

when) I will get FrameMaker 2017 Release.  I guess that the change you reported 
is something I'll just have to look forward to.



Regards,

Dave Stamm

Information Engineer



-Original Message-

From: Framers

[mailto:framers-bounces+david.stamm=gd-ms@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf 
Of Stefan Gentz

Sent: 2017-03-19-Sunday 09:39

To: framers@lists.frameusers.com

Subject: [Framers] Font Size in Index Marker Pod (FRMAKER-2451)



Hi



In the last days there was some discussion about them index marker text window.



David Stamm had file this in as an enhancement request:

https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Ftracker.adobe.com%2F%23%2Fview%2FFRMAKER-2451=02%7C01%7C%7C0acefd5e491145419edf08d46f916218%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178decee1%7C0%7C0%7C636256117585634345=TOtaFEaHwlADwUVwiS4NBDH2n%2BTQhzTnQLb5z9kLP9s%3D=0



The marker window has changed in FM 2017 and is no in the same look and feel 
like other pods. Also the font size is the same as in the text field of all 
other dialogs:



[cid:image025.jpg@01D2A0BE.831E09E0]





In FrameMaker 2015 there was a different marker pod based on a different 
technology.



@all: Please give me feedback, on what is different in the index marker window 
for you that does make it more difficult to work with text in index markers 
compared with other markers or text in other dialogs / pods.





Regards,

Stefan Gentz

Adobe Worldwide TechComm Evangelist

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Re: [Framers] Font Size in Index Marker Pod (FRMAKER-2451)

[Stefan Gentz]

No, what I said is, that we have changed the index marker pod in FM 2017. It is 
NOT the same as the one in FM 2015.
The font size is the same now as in all other dialogs where you have editable 
text. It's not the same small size as in FM 2015 anymore.

 
Regards,
Stefan Gentz
Adobe Worldwide TechComm Evangelist
 

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From: Framers [mailto:framers-bounces+gentz=adobe@lists.frameusers.com] On 
Behalf Of Rick Quatro
Sent: Monday, March 20, 2017 14:02
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Subject: Re: [Framers] Font Size in Index Marker Pod (FRMAKER-2451)

Wait, don't misunderstand what Stefan is saying. The font size of the marker 
window is the same in 2017 as it is in earlier versions. So you will be very 
disappointed (and upset) if you upgrade to 2017 and expect a larger font in the 
marker window.

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From: Framers
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Stamm, David
Sent: Monday, March 20, 2017 8:36 AM
To: An email list for people using Adobe FrameMaker software.
Subject: Re: [Framers] Font Size in Index Marker Pod (FRMAKER-2451)

2017-03-20-01T12:35Z

Stefan -

Thanks for this update.  Unfortunately, I have no idea whether (and if so,
when) I will get FrameMaker 2017 Release.  I guess that the change you reported 
is something I'll just have to look forward to.

Regards,
Dave Stamm
Information Engineer

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From: Framers
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Of Stefan Gentz
Sent: 2017-03-19-Sunday 09:39
To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: [Framers] Font Size in Index Marker Pod (FRMAKER-2451)

Hi

In the last days there was some discussion about them index marker text window.

David Stamm had file this in as an enhancement request:
https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Ftracker.adobe.com%2F%23%2Fview%2FFRMAKER-2451=02%7C01%7C%7C0acefd5e491145419edf08d46f916218%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178decee1%7C0%7C0%7C636256117585634345=TOtaFEaHwlADwUVwiS4NBDH2n%2BTQhzTnQLb5z9kLP9s%3D=0

The marker window has changed in FM 2017 and is no in the same look and feel 
like other pods. Also the font size is the same as in the text field of all 
other dialogs:

[cid:image025.jpg@01D2A0BE.831E09E0]


In FrameMaker 2015 there was a different marker pod based on a different 
technology.

@all: Please give me feedback, on what is different in the index marker window 
for you that does make it more difficult to work with text in index markers 
compared with other markers or text in other dialogs / pods.


Regards,
Stefan Gentz
Adobe Worldwide TechComm Evangelist
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Re: [Framers] Font Size in Index Marker Pod (FRMAKER-2451)

[Frank Stearns]

On Mon, 20 Mar 2017, Rick Quatro wrote:


IXgen is a very useful plugin for marker-intensive documents. I used it
years ago and recommended it to several of my clients. My only complaint is
that it takes the liberty of balancing square brackets when it puts the text
back into the markers. This was a fatal problem for one of my clients that
was trying to use IXgen with TimeSavers markers which sometimes use
unbalanced open square brackets in its marker syntax (essentially,
Postscript code). In my view, IXgen shouldn't make any changes to the marker
text that you don't explicitly specify. But this is certainly an edge case,
so if you are not using TimeSavers markers, this won't be a concern for you.


**IXGEN HAS BEEN UPDATED**

We've now included a "passthrough" marker-type option for such cases. 
(In many other situations, you do want -- and need -- brackets 
balanced.)


Hope that helps,

Frank Stearns Associates | makers of IXgen(tm) for FrameMaker(r)
*** IXGEN 7-10 for FrameMaker 10-15 HERE! ***
fra...@fsatools.com  1-435-275-8981  fsatools.com



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From: Framers
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Of Frank Stearns
Sent: Monday, March 20, 2017 12:14 AM
To: An email list for people using Adobe FrameMaker software.
Subject: Re: [Framers] Font Size in Index Marker Pod (FRMAKER-2451)

On Sun, 19 Mar 2017, Rick Quatro wrote:


The problem here is simply that the text size in the marker window is
too small. It would be nice to be able to configure the size and
possibly the font in windows like these where the user has to
type/edit text. On marker-intensive documents, I would probably choose
a larger, mono-spaced font for the marker window.


snips


Hi

In the last days there was some discussion about them index marker
text window.


Another idea would be to use IXgen and bypass the limits (and sometimes
miseries) of the marker window entirely.

Most marker display and edit entities generated by IXgen rely on FrameMaker
documents that we provide as templates. And, because the IXgen templates are
plain old FM documents, you can modify those templates to use whatever font
size and styles you'd like.

For more information about IXgen please visit our site (in the sig block
below).

Frank Stearns Associates | makers of IXgen(tm) for FrameMaker(r)
*** IXGEN 7-10 for FrameMaker 10-15 HERE! *** fra...@fsatools.com
1-435-275-8981  www.fsatools.com
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Re: [Framers] Font Size in Index Marker Pod (FRMAKER-2451)

[Rick Quatro]

Wait, don't misunderstand what Stefan is saying. The font size of the marker
window is the same in 2017 as it is in earlier versions. So you will be very
disappointed (and upset) if you upgrade to 2017 and expect a larger font in
the marker window.

-Original Message-
From: Framers
[mailto:framers-bounces+rick=rickquatro@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf
Of Stamm, David
Sent: Monday, March 20, 2017 8:36 AM
To: An email list for people using Adobe FrameMaker software.
Subject: Re: [Framers] Font Size in Index Marker Pod (FRMAKER-2451)

2017-03-20-01T12:35Z

Stefan -

Thanks for this update.  Unfortunately, I have no idea whether (and if so,
when) I will get FrameMaker 2017 Release.  I guess that the change you
reported is something I'll just have to look forward to.

Regards,
Dave Stamm
Information Engineer

-Original Message-
From: Framers
[mailto:framers-bounces+david.stamm=gd-ms@lists.frameusers.com] On
Behalf Of Stefan Gentz
Sent: 2017-03-19-Sunday 09:39
To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: [Framers] Font Size in Index Marker Pod (FRMAKER-2451)

Hi

In the last days there was some discussion about them index marker text
window.

David Stamm had file this in as an enhancement request:
https://tracker.adobe.com/#/view/FRMAKER-2451

The marker window has changed in FM 2017 and is no in the same look and feel
like other pods. Also the font size is the same as in the text field of all
other dialogs:

[cid:image025.jpg@01D2A0BE.831E09E0]


In FrameMaker 2015 there was a different marker pod based on a different
technology.

@all: Please give me feedback, on what is different in the index marker
window for you that does make it more difficult to work with text in index
markers compared with other markers or text in other dialogs / pods.


Regards,
Stefan Gentz
Adobe Worldwide TechComm Evangelist
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Re: [Framers] Font Size in Index Marker Pod (FRMAKER-2451)

[Stamm, David]

2017-03-20-01T12:35Z

Stefan -

Thanks for this update.  Unfortunately, I have no idea whether (and if so, 
when) I will get FrameMaker 2017 Release.  I guess that the change you reported 
is something I'll just have to look forward to.

Regards,
Dave Stamm
Information Engineer

-Original Message-
From: Framers 
[mailto:framers-bounces+david.stamm=gd-ms@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf 
Of Stefan Gentz
Sent: 2017-03-19-Sunday 09:39
To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: [Framers] Font Size in Index Marker Pod (FRMAKER-2451)

Hi

In the last days there was some discussion about them index marker text window.

David Stamm had file this in as an enhancement request: 
https://tracker.adobe.com/#/view/FRMAKER-2451

The marker window has changed in FM 2017 and is no in the same look and feel 
like other pods. Also the font size is the same as in the text field of all 
other dialogs:

[cid:image025.jpg@01D2A0BE.831E09E0]


In FrameMaker 2015 there was a different marker pod based on a different 
technology.

@all: Please give me feedback, on what is different in the index marker window 
for you that does make it more difficult to work with text in index markers 
compared with other markers or text in other dialogs / pods.


Regards,
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Re: [Framers] Font Size in Index Marker Pod (FRMAKER-2451)

[Rick Quatro]

IXgen is a very useful plugin for marker-intensive documents. I used it
years ago and recommended it to several of my clients. My only complaint is
that it takes the liberty of balancing square brackets when it puts the text
back into the markers. This was a fatal problem for one of my clients that
was trying to use IXgen with TimeSavers markers which sometimes use
unbalanced open square brackets in its marker syntax (essentially,
Postscript code). In my view, IXgen shouldn't make any changes to the marker
text that you don't explicitly specify. But this is certainly an edge case,
so if you are not using TimeSavers markers, this won't be a concern for you.

Rick Quatro
Carmen Publishing Inc.
r...@frameexpert.com
585-366-4017



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From: Framers
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Of Frank Stearns
Sent: Monday, March 20, 2017 12:14 AM
To: An email list for people using Adobe FrameMaker software.
Subject: Re: [Framers] Font Size in Index Marker Pod (FRMAKER-2451)

On Sun, 19 Mar 2017, Rick Quatro wrote:

> The problem here is simply that the text size in the marker window is 
> too small. It would be nice to be able to configure the size and 
> possibly the font in windows like these where the user has to 
> type/edit text. On marker-intensive documents, I would probably choose 
> a larger, mono-spaced font for the marker window.

snips

> Hi
>
> In the last days there was some discussion about them index marker 
> text window.

Another idea would be to use IXgen and bypass the limits (and sometimes
miseries) of the marker window entirely.

Most marker display and edit entities generated by IXgen rely on FrameMaker
documents that we provide as templates. And, because the IXgen templates are
plain old FM documents, you can modify those templates to use whatever font
size and styles you'd like.

For more information about IXgen please visit our site (in the sig block
below).

Frank Stearns Associates | makers of IXgen(tm) for FrameMaker(r)
*** IXGEN 7-10 for FrameMaker 10-15 HERE! *** fra...@fsatools.com
1-435-275-8981  www.fsatools.com
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Re: [Framers] Font Size in Index Marker Pod (FRMAKER-2451)

[Frank Stearns]

On Sun, 19 Mar 2017, Rick Quatro wrote:


The problem here is simply that the text size in the marker window is too
small. It would be nice to be able to configure the size and possibly the
font in windows like these where the user has to type/edit text. On
marker-intensive documents, I would probably choose a larger, mono-spaced
font for the marker window.


snips


Hi

In the last days there was some discussion about them index marker text
window.


Another idea would be to use IXgen and bypass the limits (and 
sometimes miseries) of the marker window entirely.


Most marker display and edit entities generated by IXgen rely on 
FrameMaker documents that we provide as templates. And, because the 
IXgen templates are plain old FM documents, you can modify those 
templates to use whatever font size and styles you'd like.


For more information about IXgen please visit our site (in the sig 
block below).


Frank Stearns Associates | makers of IXgen(tm) for FrameMaker(r)
*** IXGEN 7-10 for FrameMaker 10-15 HERE! ***
fra...@fsatools.com  1-435-275-8981  www.fsatools.com
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Re: [Framers] Font Size in Index Marker Pod (FRMAKER-2451)

[Peter Gold]

Search Google for Cudspan Markerworker. It might work with current releases.

On Sun, Mar 19, 2017 at 12:50 PM, Rick Quatro  wrote:

> The problem here is simply that the text size in the marker window is too
> small. It would be nice to be able to configure the size and possibly the
> font in windows like these where the user has to type/edit text. On
> marker-intensive documents, I would probably choose a larger, mono-spaced
> font for the marker window.
>
>
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Re: [Framers] Font Size in Index Marker Pod (FRMAKER-2451)

[Rick Quatro]

The problem here is simply that the text size in the marker window is too
small. It would be nice to be able to configure the size and possibly the
font in windows like these where the user has to type/edit text. On
marker-intensive documents, I would probably choose a larger, mono-spaced
font for the marker window.

Rick Quatro
Carmen Publishing Inc.
r...@frameexpert.com
585-366-4017



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From: Framers
[mailto:framers-bounces+rick=rickquatro@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf
Of Stefan Gentz
Sent: Sunday, March 19, 2017 9:39 AM
To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: [Framers] Font Size in Index Marker Pod (FRMAKER-2451)

Hi

In the last days there was some discussion about them index marker text
window.

David Stamm had file this in as an enhancement request:
https://tracker.adobe.com/#/view/FRMAKER-2451

The marker window has changed in FM 2017 and is no in the same look and feel
like other pods. Also the font size is the same as in the text field of all
other dialogs:

[cid:image025.jpg@01D2A0BE.831E09E0]


In FrameMaker 2015 there was a different marker pod based on a different
technology.

@all: Please give me feedback, on what is different in the index marker
window for you that does make it more difficult to work with text in index
markers compared with other markers or text in other dialogs / pods.


Regards,
Stefan Gentz
Adobe Worldwide TechComm Evangelist
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