Re: [Framers] FrameMaker tab bug workaround

2017-12-06 Thread Shmuel Wolfson

I forgot to mention that I have 2015 (version 13.0.5.547).
It's possible this bug is fixed in the current version.
Below it says that it is fixed in version 14.0.0.361.

Shmuel

On 06-Dec-17 11:07 AM, Klaus Daube wrote:

Hello Shmuel,

I had reported this with FM-11 and it was considered duplicate at that
time.

This bug re-appeared several times:

Bug 2959372 during beta testing FM-11: Sub dialogue not working:

File > Preferences > Interface: Autocollaps Iconic Panels

ON is my preferred setting to dismiss the pods automatically.

There is however a severe drawback of this method: If the pod

opens an additional dialogue for entry of values, then the pod

closes and the entry in the subdialogue is lost.

1 Open the paragraph designer with CTRL+m 2).

2 Either you are already in the Basic pane with the New Tab

  Stop item selected – or you naviguate to this situation.

3 ENTER does nothing – one needs to move the mouse and

  click on the item (although it appears to be selected).

4 Edit Tab Stop dialogue opens.

5 As soon as I start typing in this dialogue, the pod dialogue

  disappears.

6 After entering data in Edit Tab Stop and invoking Continue

  (click or ENTER) the dilaogue closes.

7 Opening the pargraph designer again does not display the

  newly set TAB stop.

In FM-10 the underlying problem ( 2742006 - Sub dialogue is not
accessible with

"Autocollapse Iconic Panels") was 'resolved' as Deferred...

FRMAKER-2031  [not me] Tab stops can not be modified:

=> Fixed in 13.0.3.495

=> re-appears in 13.0.5.547

=> fixed in 14.0.0.361

So hopefully "new features" will not revive this fault perpetually.

Klaus

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Re: [Framers] FrameMaker tab bug workaround

2017-12-06 Thread Klaus Daube
   Hello Shmuel,

   I had reported this with FM-11 and it was considered duplicate at that
   time.

   This bug re-appeared several times:

   Bug 2959372 during beta testing FM-11: Sub dialogue not working:

   File > Preferences > Interface: Autocollaps Iconic Panels

   ON is my preferred setting to dismiss the pods automatically.

   There is however a severe drawback of this method: If the pod

   opens an additional dialogue for entry of values, then the pod

   closes and the entry in the subdialogue is lost.

   1 Open the paragraph designer with CTRL+m 2).

   2 Either you are already in the Basic pane with the New Tab

 Stop item selected – or you naviguate to this situation.

   3 ENTER does nothing – one needs to move the mouse and

 click on the item (although it appears to be selected).

   4 Edit Tab Stop dialogue opens.

   5 As soon as I start typing in this dialogue, the pod dialogue

 disappears.

   6 After entering data in Edit Tab Stop and invoking Continue

 (click or ENTER) the dilaogue closes.

   7 Opening the pargraph designer again does not display the

 newly set TAB stop.

   In FM-10 the underlying problem ( 2742006 - Sub dialogue is not
   accessible with

   "Autocollapse Iconic Panels") was 'resolved' as Deferred...

   FRMAKER-2031  [not me] Tab stops can not be modified:

   => Fixed in 13.0.3.495

   => re-appears in 13.0.5.547

   => fixed in 14.0.0.361

   So hopefully "new features" will not revive this fault perpetually.

   Klaus

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   Klaus Daube Phone:  +41-44-381 37 77

   Schäracher 11   Mail:   kl...@daube.ch

   CH-8053 Zürich  Web:www.daube.ch
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Re: [Framers] FrameMaker tab bug workaround

2017-12-05 Thread Peter Gold
Very cool insight, Shmuel! This sounds like it took persistence and
practice to get it right.

It reminds me about how it's important to be fast enough when it matters.
When I was little, I believed that people in magazine photographs relaxed
their expressions when the pages were closed, and quickly posed again when
the pages were opened. I was never fast enough to catch them at it, though.


On Tue, Dec 5, 2017 at 5:28 AM, Shmuel Wolfson  wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> I found a workaround to the FrameMaker bug that when you change a tab stop
> value, it sometimes reverts to the original value before you can click
> Apply in the Paragraph designer.
>
> It takes a fraction of a second to revert back to it's original value. So
> the workaround is to place the Continue button of the Edit Tab Stop dialog
> box over the Apply button of the Paragraph designer, then double-click the
> Continue button in the Edit Tab Stop dialog box. The first click closes the
> Edit Tab Stop dialog box. The second click clicks the Apply button in the
> Paragraph designer. The double-click is faster than the time it takes for
> the value to revert back to original tab value, so the apply takes effect
> with the new tab value.
>
> I hope this helps.
>
> --
> Shmuel Wolfson
> Technical Writer
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>
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