Re: [Framers] Linking to a specific page in a PDF file

[Victoria Muir]

I would be interested in this webinar — thanks for offering, Jang!

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On 5/12/16, 12:26 PM,
"framers-bounces+tmuir=spot-on-creative@lists.frameusers.com on behalf
of j...@jang.nl" 
 wrote:

>I have used a reliable method for cross-deliverable linking in PDF using
>Hypertext markers. One set of markers defines the named destinations,
>using "newlink XXX". With this method, I set the markers to have names I
>can figure out without resorting to investigating tons of destinations in
>Acrobat Pro. Also, I can avoid creating named destinations for
>everything, which blows up the size of the PDF files.
>
>On the referencing side, I use Hypertext markers with the text "gotolink
>XXX" if it is in the same PDF or "openlink DDD:XXX" in case it is a
>separate PDF document. There are a couple of snags when PDFs are created
>from books with multiple chapters, each with their own named
>destinations, but this can be made to work.
>
>Of course I am much too lazy to enter all these markers manually, so I
>have scripted everything. Works wonderfully.
>
>If there is enough interest in this, I can convince Adobe to organize a
>webinar where I explain and demo this technique. The same markers are
>also used for HTML5 marking, where multiple deliverables are created from
>separate books and still jump to the right locations in these separate
>HTML5 products.
>
>Let me know if you want to see this.
>
>
>Jang F.M. (Yes, those are my middle names) Graat
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Re: [Framers] Linking to a specific page in a PDF file

[john . x . posada]

Actually, I am generating bot documents. However, I'm now linking to PDFs
that I created 1-3 years ago, before I was considering the need to link to
them.

However, I think I'm OK...the PDFs to which I'm linking by page numbers are
not moving, changing pagination, being edited, or renamed, so they are (by
law here) pretty stable.

John X Posada
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From:   Robert Lauriston 
To: "framers@lists.frameusers.com" 
Date:   05/12/2016 03:33 PM
Subject:Re: [Framers] Linking to a specific page in a PDF file
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That works great when you're generating both documents. John is
linking to a PDF he has no control over.

On Thu, May 12, 2016 at 12:26 PM,   wrote:
> I have used a reliable method for cross-deliverable linking in PDF using
Hypertext markers. One set of markers defines the named destinations, using
"newlink XXX". With this method, I set the markers to have names I can
figure out without resorting to investigating tons of destinations in
Acrobat Pro. Also, I can avoid creating named destinations for everything,
which blows up the size of the PDF files.
>
> On the referencing side, I use Hypertext markers with the text "gotolink
XXX" if it is in the same PDF or "openlink DDD:XXX" in case it is a
separate PDF document. There are a couple of snags when PDFs are created
from books with multiple chapters, each with their own named destinations,
but this can be made to work.
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Re: [Framers] Linking to a specific page in a PDF file

[Robert Lauriston]

That works great when you're generating both documents. John is
linking to a PDF he has no control over.

On Thu, May 12, 2016 at 12:26 PM,   wrote:
> I have used a reliable method for cross-deliverable linking in PDF using 
> Hypertext markers. One set of markers defines the named destinations, using 
> "newlink XXX". With this method, I set the markers to have names I can figure 
> out without resorting to investigating tons of destinations in Acrobat Pro. 
> Also, I can avoid creating named destinations for everything, which blows up 
> the size of the PDF files.
>
> On the referencing side, I use Hypertext markers with the text "gotolink XXX" 
> if it is in the same PDF or "openlink DDD:XXX" in case it is a separate PDF 
> document. There are a couple of snags when PDFs are created from books with 
> multiple chapters, each with their own named destinations, but this can be 
> made to work.
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Re: [Framers] Linking to a specific page in a PDF file

[jang]

I have used a reliable method for cross-deliverable linking in PDF using 
Hypertext markers. One set of markers defines the named destinations, using 
"newlink XXX". With this method, I set the markers to have names I can figure 
out without resorting to investigating tons of destinations in Acrobat Pro. 
Also, I can avoid creating named destinations for everything, which blows up 
the size of the PDF files.

On the referencing side, I use Hypertext markers with the text "gotolink XXX" 
if it is in the same PDF or "openlink DDD:XXX" in case it is a separate PDF 
document. There are a couple of snags when PDFs are created from books with 
multiple chapters, each with their own named destinations, but this can be made 
to work.

Of course I am much too lazy to enter all these markers manually, so I have 
scripted everything. Works wonderfully.

If there is enough interest in this, I can convince Adobe to organize a webinar 
where I explain and demo this technique. The same markers are also used for 
HTML5 marking, where multiple deliverables are created from separate books and 
still jump to the right locations in these separate HTML5 products.

Let me know if you want to see this.


Jang F.M. (Yes, those are my middle names) Graat
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Re: [Framers] Linking to a specific page in a PDF file

[john . x . posada]

Got it. Thanks.

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From:   Robert Lauriston 
To: John X Posada/HBUS/HSBC@HSBC02, "framers@lists.frameusers.com"

Date:   05/12/2016 02:19 PM
Subject:Re: [Framers] Linking to a specific page in a PDF file
Sent by:robert.lauris...@gmail.com



Make the window small, zoom in, and set the page display to Single
Page Continuous. If when you double-click a named destination a
heading appears at the top of the window, that's where the named
destination is.

On Thu, May 12, 2016 at 11:09 AM,   wrote:
> When I click on it, it goes to "somewhere" on the page, but there is no
> indication (shading, box, cursor, etc.,) that tells me what is is
> associated with.
>
> From:   Robert Lauriston 
>
> Just click on a few until you find one that goes to the right spot.
> Typically there's one for each hading. Make the Acrobat window smaller
> and set zoom to Actual Size so you can tell exactly where on the page
> each destination is.
>
> On Thu, May 12, 2016 at 10:42 AM,   wrote:
>> My destinations are named such as G1018776, with maybe 40 of them on the
>> page.
>>
>> How do I know which is the specific destination I want to jump to?
>>
>> From:   "Robert Lauriston" 
>>
>> Open the PDF in Acrobat, open the Destinations pane, sort by page
>> number, look at the destinations on the page you want to link to.
>> Depending on how the PDF was generated, there might not be any.
>>
>>
>
https://helpx.adobe.com/acrobat/using/links-attachments-pdfs.html#destinations



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Re: [Framers] Linking to a specific page in a PDF file

[Robert Lauriston]

Make the window small, zoom in, and set the page display to Single
Page Continuous. If when you double-click a named destination a
heading appears at the top of the window, that's where the named
destination is.

On Thu, May 12, 2016 at 11:09 AM,   wrote:
> When I click on it, it goes to "somewhere" on the page, but there is no
> indication (shading, box, cursor, etc.,) that tells me what is is
> associated with.
>
> From:   Robert Lauriston 
>
> Just click on a few until you find one that goes to the right spot.
> Typically there's one for each hading. Make the Acrobat window smaller
> and set zoom to Actual Size so you can tell exactly where on the page
> each destination is.
>
> On Thu, May 12, 2016 at 10:42 AM,   wrote:
>> My destinations are named such as G1018776, with maybe 40 of them on the
>> page.
>>
>> How do I know which is the specific destination I want to jump to?
>>
>> From:   "Robert Lauriston" 
>>
>> Open the PDF in Acrobat, open the Destinations pane, sort by page
>> number, look at the destinations on the page you want to link to.
>> Depending on how the PDF was generated, there might not be any.
>>
>>
> https://helpx.adobe.com/acrobat/using/links-attachments-pdfs.html#destinations
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Re: [Framers] Linking to a specific page in a PDF file

[john . x . posada]

When I click on it, it goes to "somewhere" on the page, but there is no
indication (shading, box, cursor, etc.,) that tells me what is is
associated with.

John X Posada
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America Holdings Inc
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From:   Robert Lauriston 
To: John X Posada/HBUS/HSBC@HSBC02, "framers@lists.frameusers.com"

Date:   05/12/2016 01:58 PM
Subject:Re: [Framers] Linking to a specific page in a PDF file
Sent by:robert.lauris...@gmail.com



Just click on a few until you find one that goes to the right spot.
Typically there's one for each hading. Make the Acrobat window smaller
and set zoom to Actual Size so you can tell exactly where on the page
each destination is.

On Thu, May 12, 2016 at 10:42 AM,   wrote:
> My destinations are named such as G1018776, with maybe 40 of them on the
> page.
>
> How do I know which is the specific destination I want to jump to?
>
> From:   "Robert Lauriston" 
> To: "framers@lists.frameusers.com" 
> Date:   05/12/2016 01:34 PM
> Subject:Re: [Framers] Linking to a specific page in a PDF file
> Sent by:"Framers"+john.x.posada=us.hsbc@lists.frameusers.com>
>
>
>
> Open the PDF in Acrobat, open the Destinations pane, sort by page
> number, look at the destinations on the page you want to link to.
> Depending on how the PDF was generated, there might not be any.
>
>
https://helpx.adobe.com/acrobat/using/links-attachments-pdfs.html#destinations

>
>
> On Thu, May 12, 2016 at 10:26 AM,   wrote:
>> I've never used "Jump to Named Destination". How do I implement that to
>> point to a destination page in a PDF that I cannot make changes to?


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Re: [Framers] Linking to a specific page in a PDF file

[Robert Lauriston]

Just click on a few until you find one that goes to the right spot.
Typically there's one for each hading. Make the Acrobat window smaller
and set zoom to Actual Size so you can tell exactly where on the page
each destination is.

On Thu, May 12, 2016 at 10:42 AM,   wrote:
> My destinations are named such as G1018776, with maybe 40 of them on the
> page.
>
> How do I know which is the specific destination I want to jump to?
>
> From:   "Robert Lauriston" 
> To: "framers@lists.frameusers.com" 
> Date:   05/12/2016 01:34 PM
> Subject:Re: [Framers] Linking to a specific page in a PDF file
> Sent by:"Framers"+john.x.posada=us.hsbc@lists.frameusers.com>
>
>
>
> Open the PDF in Acrobat, open the Destinations pane, sort by page
> number, look at the destinations on the page you want to link to.
> Depending on how the PDF was generated, there might not be any.
>
> https://helpx.adobe.com/acrobat/using/links-attachments-pdfs.html#destinations
>
>
> On Thu, May 12, 2016 at 10:26 AM,   wrote:
>> I've never used "Jump to Named Destination". How do I implement that to
>> point to a destination page in a PDF that I cannot make changes to?
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Re: [Framers] Linking to a specific page in a PDF file

[john . x . posada]

My destinations are named such as G1018776, with maybe 40 of them on the
page.

How do I know which is the specific destination I want to jump to?


John X Posada
SR AML Syst & Ops Supt Data Analyst | Global Risk Analytics | HSBC North
America Holdings Inc
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From:   "Robert Lauriston" 
To: "framers@lists.frameusers.com" 
Date:   05/12/2016 01:34 PM
Subject:Re: [Framers] Linking to a specific page in a PDF file
Sent by:"Framers"   



Open the PDF in Acrobat, open the Destinations pane, sort by page
number, look at the destinations on the page you want to link to.
Depending on how the PDF was generated, there might not be any.

https://helpx.adobe.com/acrobat/using/links-attachments-pdfs.html#destinations


On Thu, May 12, 2016 at 10:26 AM,   wrote:
> I've never used "Jump to Named Destination". How do I implement that to
> point to a destination page in a PDF that I cannot make changes to?
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Re: [Framers] Linking to a specific page in a PDF file

[Robert Lauriston]

Open the PDF in Acrobat, open the Destinations pane, sort by page
number, look at the destinations on the page you want to link to.
Depending on how the PDF was generated, there might not be any.

https://helpx.adobe.com/acrobat/using/links-attachments-pdfs.html#destinations

On Thu, May 12, 2016 at 10:26 AM,   wrote:
> I've never used "Jump to Named Destination". How do I implement that to
> point to a destination page in a PDF that I cannot make changes to?
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Re: [Framers] Linking to a specific page in a PDF file

[john . x . posada]

I beat the process to hell and it seems to be stable. I use the "Go To URL"
command and use absolute URLs to the PDF, then append #page=[page number]

I've never used "Jump to Named Destination". How do I implement that to
point to a destination page in a PDF that I cannot make changes to?

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From:   Robert Lauriston 
To: John X Posada/HBUS/HSBC@HSBC02, "framers@lists.frameusers.com"

Date:   05/12/2016 12:32 PM
Subject:Re: [Framers] Linking to a specific page in a PDF file
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Use named destinations rather than page numbers, which can change if
the PDF is updated.

The MadCap developers didn't get that one right until version 8, and
I'm pretty sure they only got it right then because I rephrased the
issue half a dozen times until they finally understood it.

I'm not sure it's an issue any more, but if the web server does not
support byte-serving, the link won't work.

On Thu, May 12, 2016 at 7:46 AM,   wrote:
> Actually, I found it and it seems to work.
>
> https://helpx.adobe.com/acrobat/kb/link-html-pdf-page-acrobat.html


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Re: [Framers] Linking to a specific page in a PDF file

[Robert Lauriston]

Use named destinations rather than page numbers, which can change if
the PDF is updated.

The MadCap developers didn't get that one right until version 8, and
I'm pretty sure they only got it right then because I rephrased the
issue half a dozen times until they finally understood it.

I'm not sure it's an issue any more, but if the web server does not
support byte-serving, the link won't work.

On Thu, May 12, 2016 at 7:46 AM,   wrote:
> Actually, I found it and it seems to work.
>
> https://helpx.adobe.com/acrobat/kb/link-html-pdf-page-acrobat.html
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Re: [Framers] Linking to a specific page in a PDF file

[john . x . posada]

Actually, I found it and it seems to work.

https://helpx.adobe.com/acrobat/kb/link-html-pdf-page-acrobat.html



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From:   gr...@hedgewizard.net
To: John X Posada/HBUS/HSBC@HSBC02
Date:   05/12/2016 10:43 AM
Subject:Re: [Framers] Linking to a specific page in a PDF file



I know that that used to be possible but unsustainable, but I don't know if
that has changed.


I know it is something that people have wanted.


See you in Anaheim?


Grant


  On May 12, 2016 at 8:38 AM john.x.pos...@us.hsbc.com wrote:


  Hi guys...

  Does anyone know if it possible (and how if it is) to link to a
  specific
  PDF page in a PDF file from an FM page?

  Thanks.

  John X Posada
  SR AML Syst & Ops Supt Data Analyst | Global Risk Analytics | HSBC
  North
  America Holdings Inc
  330 Madison Ave., NY NY

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