Re: Best Indexing Tool for FrameMaker?
I have Indexing Tools Pro. I use the Merge Index feature, which is pretty nifty. ITP also helps make creation of Master Indexes easier. However, its main feature - embedding index marker text in the main flow, so you can see index text in a reasonable font size and do search and replace on index text (the main failings of the FrameMaker indexing, IMO) didn't work well for me. I don't know if it is because I use structured frame or what, but it just wasn't working right. But the basic idea was a good one. So I changed my EDD to add an inline indexEntry element and wrote some FrameScript scripts to support it. Now I have inline indexing, but in a way more to my liking. If anyone who is using structured Frame and Framescript is interested, I'd be happy to send the scripts to you with a brief explanation of how they work. Then you're on your own. Fred -- Fred Wersan Senior Technical Writer MAK Technologies 68 Moulton St. Cambridge, MA 02138 617-876-8085 ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Best Indexing Tool for FrameMaker?
IXGen is my standard tool. Highly recommended, and Frank's customer support is top-notch. Art On Wed, Sep 3, 2008 at 4:31 PM, Jennifer Collier [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We are currently using FrameMaker 6.0 but are going to move to FrameMaker 8 (Structured) within the next year. We are in desperate need of a indexing tool. What are your recommendations? I've done some research but I'd like to hear what's working well in the field. Thanks in advance for your input. Jen Collier Horizon Software International, LLC Technical Publications Manager 770-554-6353 ext. 283 www.horizonsoftware.co -- Art Campbell [EMAIL PROTECTED] ... In my opinion, there's nothing in this world beats a '52 Vincent and a redheaded girl. -- Richard Thompson No disclaimers apply. DoD 358 ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Best Indexing Tool for FrameMaker?
I use Index Tools Professional from Silicon Prairie Software. By and large, I am happy with it. It has sped up indexing tremendously...and makes it pretty darn easy to see what index tags are currently in place. I haven't tried other tools. This was the first we tried and it was such a clear improvement that we jumped and went with it. http://www.siliconprairiesoftware.com/Products.html If you have specific questions, I'd be happy to answer them. -Michael -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jennifer Collier Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2008 3:31 PM To: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: Best Indexing Tool for FrameMaker? We are currently using FrameMaker 6.0 but are going to move to FrameMaker 8 (Structured) within the next year. We are in desperate need of a indexing tool. What are your recommendations? I've done some research but I'd like to hear what's working well in the field. Thanks in advance for your input. Jen Collier Horizon Software International, LLC Technical Publications Manager 770-554-6353 ext. 283 www.horizonsoftware.com ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/moneill%40meta-comm. com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Best Indexing Tool for FrameMaker?
Absolutely right, IXGen is the must-have plug-in to create indexes in unstructured FrameMaker. IXGen also works in structured FM files, but I don't think that you can use it in native XML files (forgive me and correct me if I'm wrong). It would be great, though, to have a command that says Markers from Elements and which copies the text from, say, the DITA title elements and pastes it in an indexterm element. Surely, further editing needs to be done, but you'd have a good basic index already. I'd love to see a DITA-aware IXGen soon. -- Yves Barbion • Managing Director Scripto • Adobe-Certified FrameMaker Instructor www.scripto.nu • skype: yves.barbion • T: +32 494 12 01 89 On Thu, Sep 4, 2008 at 2:06 PM, Art Campbell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: IXGen is my standard tool. Highly recommended, and Frank's customer support is top-notch. Art On Wed, Sep 3, 2008 at 4:31 PM, Jennifer Collier [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We are currently using FrameMaker 6.0 but are going to move to FrameMaker 8 (Structured) within the next year. We are in desperate need of a indexing tool. What are your recommendations? I've done some research but I'd like to hear what's working well in the field. Thanks in advance for your input. Jen Collier Horizon Software International, LLC Technical Publications Manager 770-554-6353 ext. 283 www.horizonsoftware.co -- Art Campbell [EMAIL PROTECTED] ... In my opinion, there's nothing in this world beats a '52 Vincent and a redheaded girl. -- Richard Thompson No disclaimers apply. DoD 358 ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/yves.barbion%40gmail.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Best Indexing Tool for FrameMaker?
I second Art's opinion. best, Paul On 4 Mean Fomhair 2008, at 5:06 am, Art Campbell wrote: IXGen is my standard tool. Highly recommended, and Frank's customer support is top-notch. Art On Wed, Sep 3, 2008 at 4:31 PM, Jennifer Collier [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We are currently using FrameMaker 6.0 but are going to move to FrameMaker 8 (Structured) within the next year. We are in desperate need of a indexing tool. What are your recommendations? I've done some research but I'd like to hear what's working well in the field. Thanks in advance for your input. Jen Collier Horizon Software International, LLC Technical Publications Manager 770-554-6353 ext. 283 www.horizonsoftware.co -- Art Campbell [EMAIL PROTECTED] ... In my opinion, there's nothing in this world beats a '52 Vincent and a redheaded girl. -- Richard Thompson No disclaimers apply. DoD 358 ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/ obair81%40comcast.net Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Best Indexing Tool for FrameMaker?
I like this one also, for two reasons, it's simple, and it's inexpensive. That makes this tool VERY cost-effective. Scott At 8:05 AM -0500 9/4/08, Michael O'Neill wrote: I use Index Tools Professional from Silicon Prairie Software. By and large, I am happy with it. It has sped up indexing tremendously...and makes it pretty darn easy to see what index tags are currently in place. I haven't tried other tools. This was the first we tried and it was such a clear improvement that we jumped and went with it. http://www.siliconprairiesoftware.com/Products.html If you have specific questions, I'd be happy to answer them. -Michael ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Best Indexing Tool for FrameMaker?
Hi Guys, Not sure if it is acceptable to continue a thread like this, but in fact I would be interested to learn the full list of plugins you guys use, at least the ones that are most important and useful to you. I currently work without plugins in *unstructured framemaker*, and must create my chapter table of contents manually, indexing is not even performed at the moment . . . I am missing special find/replace functions that I know exist . . . and so, it would be great to see what collection of plugins you use and recommend. I intend to take a list of these to my company and see if we can´t get some of them to make my life easier. Cheers, Robert On Thu, Sep 4, 2008 at 3:53 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I like this one also, for two reasons, it's simple, and it's inexpensive. That makes this tool VERY cost-effective. Scott At 8:05 AM -0500 9/4/08, Michael O'Neill wrote: I use Index Tools Professional from Silicon Prairie Software. By and large, I am happy with it. It has sped up indexing tremendously...and makes it pretty darn easy to see what index tags are currently in place. I haven't tried other tools. This was the first we tried and it was such a clear improvement that we jumped and went with it. http://www.siliconprairiesoftware.com/Products.html If you have specific questions, I'd be happy to answer them. -Michael ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/robertwrogge%40gmail.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. -- Robert Rogge 93-423-1784 ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Best Indexing Tool for FrameMaker?
Hi, Robert! What version of Frame are you using? I have lost some of the ones I used to use with Frame 7 by moving to Frame 8. Kristy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Robert Rogge Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2008 8:59 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: framers@lists.frameusers.com; Jennifer Collier Subject: Re: Best Indexing Tool for FrameMaker? Hi Guys, Not sure if it is acceptable to continue a thread like this, but in fact I would be interested to learn the full list of plugins you guys use, at least the ones that are most important and useful to you. I currently work without plugins in *unstructured framemaker*, and must create my chapter table of contents manually, indexing is not even performed at the moment . . . I am missing special find/replace functions that I know exist . . . and so, it would be great to see what collection of plugins you use and recommend. I intend to take a list of these to my company and see if we can´t get some of them to make my life easier. Cheers, Robert On Thu, Sep 4, 2008 at 3:53 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I like this one also, for two reasons, it's simple, and it's inexpensive. That makes this tool VERY cost-effective. Scott At 8:05 AM -0500 9/4/08, Michael O'Neill wrote: I use Index Tools Professional from Silicon Prairie Software. By and large, I am happy with it. It has sped up indexing tremendously...and makes it pretty darn easy to see what index tags are currently in place. I haven't tried other tools. This was the first we tried and it was such a clear improvement that we jumped and went with it. http://www.siliconprairiesoftware.com/Products.html If you have specific questions, I'd be happy to answer them. -Michael ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/robertwrogge%40gma il.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. -- Robert Rogge 93-423-1784 ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/kristy.nolan%40wnco.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Best Indexing Tool for FrameMaker?
I´m on Frame 8 right now, but I´ll make a new thread. Wasn´t sure if it was acceptable, but I would not call it thread hijacking because the previous thread was more or less finished. Perhaps for archiving, this is a bad idea. Thanks Kristy! Robert On Thu, Sep 4, 2008 at 4:03 PM, Kristy Nolan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, Robert! What version of Frame are you using? I have lost some of the ones I used to use with Frame 7 by moving to Frame 8. Kristy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Robert Rogge Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2008 8:59 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: framers@lists.frameusers.com; Jennifer Collier Subject: Re: Best Indexing Tool for FrameMaker? Hi Guys, Not sure if it is acceptable to continue a thread like this, but in fact I would be interested to learn the full list of plugins you guys use, at least the ones that are most important and useful to you. I currently work without plugins in *unstructured framemaker*, and must create my chapter table of contents manually, indexing is not even performed at the moment . . . I am missing special find/replace functions that I know exist . . . and so, it would be great to see what collection of plugins you use and recommend. I intend to take a list of these to my company and see if we can´t get some of them to make my life easier. Cheers, Robert On Thu, Sep 4, 2008 at 3:53 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I like this one also, for two reasons, it's simple, and it's inexpensive. That makes this tool VERY cost-effective. Scott At 8:05 AM -0500 9/4/08, Michael O'Neill wrote: I use Index Tools Professional from Silicon Prairie Software. By and large, I am happy with it. It has sped up indexing tremendously...and makes it pretty darn easy to see what index tags are currently in place. I haven't tried other tools. This was the first we tried and it was such a clear improvement that we jumped and went with it. http://www.siliconprairiesoftware.com/Products.html If you have specific questions, I'd be happy to answer them. -Michael ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/robertwrogge%40gma il.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. -- Robert Rogge 93-423-1784 ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/kristy.nolan%40wnco.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/robertwrogge%40gmail.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. -- Robert Rogge 93-423-1784 ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Best Indexing Tool for FrameMaker?
IXgen is idiosyncratic but offers many functions to help you get going, e.g. making automatic entries for all headings which you can then edit to make proper entries. In view of the many headings in user guides, etc. and the invariable chunking into short topics, this can help you produce a high quality index quickly. It also does el neato stuff like producing a special table in a FrameMaker document in which you can edit the marker content, then write it back to the markers in the source document. Multiple entries in a single marker can be written back as multiple markers each with a single entry. This allows you to produce an editing document sorted alphabetically like the compiled index -- great for editing after proofreading -- or by page order -- great for checking whether each page has been adequately and relevantly indexed. Don't be put off by the clunky '50s user interface. It works well and is reliable. EmDex shows a real time view of a sorted index for all entries in a book and is ideal for editing a compiled index. For example, you can edit a main entry and all affected markers are updated on the spot. Or it can help you augment the entries you completed initially with IXgen based on headings with further entries to body text. Index Tools Pro lets you embed index entries in running text so you don't have to open the Marker dialogue but just type them in place. It uses conditions to hide them. When the time comes you can convert all entries in a book to proper markers. You can also remove the embedded entries and restore them from the marker content. (IXgen let's you do this but in a less friendly way.) IndexXref is a tool that produces clickable links to the target entries of cross-references. Handy when you are producing a PDF and want readers to be able to jump from the non-preferred to preferred entry while viewing a PDF on screen. The plethora of index add-ons should be alerting Adobe to the necessity of producing a more professional plug-in or shipped-with-product indexing functionality along the lines of Sky Index, Cindex, MacRex, etc. Hey, they could even make it an optional (highly priced) add-on, and they WILL come! Regards, Hedley ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Best Indexing Tool for FrameMaker?
Top-notch is a bit of an understatement. Superb works for me. :) BW --- On Thu, 9/4/08, Art Campbell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Art Campbell [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Best Indexing Tool for FrameMaker? To: Jennifer Collier [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: framers@lists.frameusers.com Date: Thursday, September 4, 2008, 8:06 AM IXGen is my standard tool. Highly recommended, and Frank's customer support is top-notch. Art On Wed, Sep 3, 2008 at 4:31 PM, Jennifer Collier [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We are currently using FrameMaker 6.0 but are going to move to FrameMaker 8 (Structured) within the next year. We are in desperate need of a indexing tool. What are your recommendations? I've done some research but I'd like to hear what's working well in the field. Thanks in advance for your input. Jen Collier Horizon Software International, LLC Technical Publications Manager 770-554-6353 ext. 283 www.horizonsoftware.co -- Art Campbell [EMAIL PROTECTED] ... In my opinion, there's nothing in this world beats a '52 Vincent and a redheaded girl. -- Richard Thompson No disclaimers apply. DoD 358 ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/brucerwolf%40yahoo.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Best Indexing Tool for FrameMaker?
Hi Robert, Scott Prentice maintains a list of FrameMaker plugins at http://www.leximation.com. Rick Quatro Carmen Publishing Inc 585-659-8267 www.frameexpert.com Hi Guys, Not sure if it is acceptable to continue a thread like this, but in fact I would be interested to learn the full list of plugins you guys use, at least the ones that are most important and useful to you. I currently work without plugins in *unstructured framemaker*, and must create my chapter table of contents manually, indexing is not even performed at the moment . . . I am missing special find/replace functions that I know exist . . . and so, it would be great to see what collection of plugins you use and recommend. I intend to take a list of these to my company and see if we can´t get some of them to make my life easier. Cheers, Robert ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
