Re: FM 12 + RH 11 OR WebWorks ePublisher
I wasn't around for the OOB version, so I don't know how much work needed to be done for the initial setup; I just know by anecdote that maintenance for both was apparently a PITA for the person responsible. > On March 13, 2014 at 2:33 PM Robert Lauriston wrote: > > > Are you speaking specifically about PDF there? I found the web help > stationery usable pretty much out of the box. > > On Thu, Mar 13, 2014 at 7:47 AM, gr...@hedgewizard.net > wrote: > > ePub is quite good at creating PDFs, but there are a couple of caveats: > ... > > > Finally: It takes quite a while to get the stationery (templates) set up > > correctly, and there are problems with the stationery for one release not > > always working with another release (or update).___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: FM 12 + RH 11 OR WebWorks ePublisher
Hey Keith— I'm pleased to read that ePub is working for you. I don't find it a *bad* tool, just problematic (and every tool has its own problems). I was reporting on the experience I and the other writers at my current employer have found; which was that the more local you could make things, the better. I don't know what my coworkers are using (I'm remote), but I do know that they are laptops. I'm running a mid-level i5 Quadcore with 16GB RAM and multiple TB of disk space. We have found that what takes me 5 min takes them 60+ min. (1300pp), and about 2 min/45 min (800pp, but more graphics (PNGs). As for the template/stationery issue, again, I have to go by the problems the writer who is our dedicated person for that has discussed with me, and the fact that we are having to run two different versions of ePubExpress because of licencing issues (and corporate bean counting); and that either the stylesheet writer will need to keep two separate style sheets in sync, or some writers will be able to process only some docs (and others, others). The company is actually working at dropping all copies of FM and WebWorks, and moving to DITA (SDL+XMetaL). I will say that the stylesheet issues there are currently *much* worse than with FM/WWP, mostly because the company has contracted with some third party to control them. $ for any change, so changes only happen every 6 mo or so. Somebody related to upper management must have needed work, or had a cousin who did. > On March 13, 2014 at 1:39 PM Keith Soltys wrote: > > > I’m running WebWorks on a six-year-old quad-core Pentium with 2 GB RAM under > Windows XP, with my books and projects stored on our network, and have never > found performance to be a serious issue. Mind you, my largest document is only > about 300 pages if printed. > > > > I don’t think getting stationery or templates set up correctly is any more > time consuming in WebWorks than it would be in RoboHelp or in the Publish > module of Frame 12. Most of the work is mapping your document’s styles to the > proper online format, which is a similar process in all three programs. If you > have manual customizations (tweaks to CSS or scripts made outside of the GUI), > it’s true that update releases can cause problems, but recent versions of > WebWorks make it pretty straightforward to find the source of any problems. > > > > Regards > > Keith > > > > > > > > From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com > [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of > gr...@hedgewizard.net > Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2014 10:48 AM > To: framers@lists.frameusers.com > Subject: Re: FM 12 + RH 11 OR WebWorks ePublisher > > > > ePub is quite good at creating PDFs, but there are a couple of caveats: > > 1. It does not work on a remote Citrix desktop. (I suspect that it might > have problems with others, but have no experience with them) > > 2. It *really* wants a modern system with lots of RAM (>8GB ) and drive > space. It will work on lesser machines, but you might as well go see a movie > while you are waiting. > > > > Finally: It takes quite a while to get the stationery (templates) set up > correctly, and there are problems with the stationery for one release not > always working with another release (or update). > > > > Grant > > > > On March 12, 2014 at 3:00 PM Robert Lauriston > <mailto:rob...@lauriston.com> > wrote: > > > > As long as you're evaluating alternatives, you should check out > > WebWorks ePublisher. It can use Word, FrameMaker, and/or DITA as > > source and the output. I haven't looked at its PDF output since my > > source was in FrameMaker, but it kicked RoboHelp 10 to the curb as far > > as web help. >___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: FM 12 + RH 11 OR WebWorks ePublisher
Are you speaking specifically about PDF there? I found the web help stationery usable pretty much out of the box. On Thu, Mar 13, 2014 at 7:47 AM, gr...@hedgewizard.net wrote: > ePub is quite good at creating PDFs, but there are a couple of caveats: ... > Finally: It takes quite a while to get the stationery (templates) set up > correctly, and there are problems with the stationery for one release not > always working with another release (or update). ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: FM 12 + RH 11 OR WebWorks ePublisher
I’m running WebWorks on a six-year-old quad-core Pentium with 2 GB RAM under Windows XP, with my books and projects stored on our network, and have never found performance to be a serious issue. Mind you, my largest document is only about 300 pages if printed. I don’t think getting stationery or templates set up correctly is any more time consuming in WebWorks than it would be in RoboHelp or in the Publish module of Frame 12. Most of the work is mapping your document’s styles to the proper online format, which is a similar process in all three programs. If you have manual customizations (tweaks to CSS or scripts made outside of the GUI), it’s true that update releases can cause problems, but recent versions of WebWorks make it pretty straightforward to find the source of any problems. Regards Keith From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of gr...@hedgewizard.net Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2014 10:48 AM To: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: Re: FM 12 + RH 11 OR WebWorks ePublisher ePub is quite good at creating PDFs, but there are a couple of caveats: 1. It does not work on a remote Citrix desktop. (I suspect that it might have problems with others, but have no experience with them) 2. It *really* wants a modern system with lots of RAM (>8GB ) and drive space. It will work on lesser machines, but you might as well go see a movie while you are waiting. Finally: It takes quite a while to get the stationery (templates) set up correctly, and there are problems with the stationery for one release not always working with another release (or update). Grant > On March 12, 2014 at 3:00 PM Robert Lauriston > mailto:rob...@lauriston.com>> wrote: > > As long as you're evaluating alternatives, you should check out > WebWorks ePublisher. It can use Word, FrameMaker, and/or DITA as > source and the output. I haven't looked at its PDF output since my > source was in FrameMaker, but it kicked RoboHelp 10 to the curb as far > as web help. NOTICE OF CONFIDENTIALITY This e-mail, including all materials contained in or attached to this e-mail, contains proprietary and confidential information solely for the internal use of the intended recipient. If you have received this email in error, please notify us immediately by return e-mail or otherwise and ensure that it is permanently deleted from your systems, and do not print, copy, distribute or read its contents. AVIS DE CONFIDENTIALITÉ Le présent courriel, y compris tous les documents qu'il contient ou qui y sont joints, renferme des renseignements exclusifs et confidentiels destinés uniquement à l'usage interne du destinataire prévu. Si vous avez reçu le présent courriel par erreur, veuillez nous aviser immédiatement, notamment par retour de courriel, et vous assurer qu'il est supprimé de façon permanente de vos systèmes; veuillez également vous abstenir d'imprimer, de copier, de distribuer ou de lire son contenu. ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: FM 12 + RH 11 OR WebWorks ePublisher
I'm very biased, but I vote for FM plus WebWorks ePublisher. I've used it for years and I've been very happy with it. One thing that I'm not sure of is if WebWorks ePublisher supports FM 12. That doesn't mean that it won't work with FM 12, I just don't think it's been certified with FM 12, yet. You can run FM 12 through a trial version: http://www.webworks.com/Tour/Try_ePublisher/ If you want more information or if you have specific questions, you can contact me off the list. Nadine > > From: "gr...@hedgewizard.net" >To: framers@lists.frameusers.com >Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2014 10:47:54 AM >Subject: Re: FM 12 + RH 11 OR WebWorks ePublisher > > > >ePub is quite good at creating PDFs, but there are a couple of caveats: >1. It does not work on a remote Citrix desktop. (I suspect that it might have >problems with others, but have no experience with them) >2. It *really* wants a modern system with lots of RAM (>8GB ) and drive space. > It will work on lesser machines, but you might as well go see a movie while >you are waiting. > >Finally: It takes quite a while to get the stationery (templates) set up >correctly, and there are problems with the stationery for one release not >always working with another release (or update). > >Grant > >> On March 12, 2014 at 3:00 PM Robert Lauriston wrote: >> >> As long as you're evaluating alternatives, you should check out >> WebWorks ePublisher. It can use Word, FrameMaker, and/or DITA as >> source and the output. I haven't looked at its PDF output since my >> source was in FrameMaker, but it kicked RoboHelp 10 to the curb as far >> as web help. > > > > >___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: FM 12 + RH 11 OR WebWorks ePublisher
ePub is quite good at creating PDFs, but there are a couple of caveats: 1. It does not work on a remote Citrix desktop. (I suspect that it might have problems with others, but have no experience with them) 2. It *really* wants a modern system with lots of RAM (>8GB ) and drive space. It will work on lesser machines, but you might as well go see a movie while you are waiting. Finally: It takes quite a while to get the stationery (templates) set up correctly, and there are problems with the stationery for one release not always working with another release (or update). Grant > On March 12, 2014 at 3:00 PM Robert Lauriston wrote: > > As long as you're evaluating alternatives, you should check out > WebWorks ePublisher. It can use Word, FrameMaker, and/or DITA as > source and the output. I haven't looked at its PDF output since my > source was in FrameMaker, but it kicked RoboHelp 10 to the curb as far > as web help.___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
