Re: How to Create Bibliography in FM?
I know someone has already mentioned this, but it is very important to follow the correct citation style. If you are writing an academic paper or preparing a submission to an academic journal, you must follow the citation style required by the journal or by your academic institution. Popular formats for citations include MLA, APA, and Harvard (see for example: http://libweb.anglia.ac.uk/referencing/harvard.htm or http://libguides.shu.ac.uk/referencing) Even if you aren't constrained by formal considerations, being consistent in your citations and references is very important for your credibility. David (disclosure: I am a part time Associate Lecturer at Sheffield Hallam University www.shu.ac.uk) David Farbey - da...@farbey.co.uk Mobile 07538 420 800 http://about.me/davidfarbey On 12 December 2014 at 17:07, Robert Lauriston rob...@lauriston.com wrote: This is covered in the FM manual topic Create and maintain endnotes: http://help.adobe.com/en_US/framemaker/using/WSd817046a44e105e21e63e3d11ab7f7561e-7f49.html On Thu, Dec 11, 2014 at 12:44 PM, Robert Lauriston rob...@lauriston.com wrote: Don't use the footnote feature. Create a bibliography_entry paragraph format including an autonumber, then use a cross-reference in running text. Then you can cross-reference the same entry as many times as you like. On Thu, Dec 11, 2014 at 12:34 PM, Orly Zimmerman or...@marvell.com wrote: HI All, I have been given a task to create a bibliography for an article I’m writing. I would like to use Framemaker, but I have no idea how I get all the footnotes on the last pages of the file or in an appendix file as opposed to on the page where the footnote was created. ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as dfar...@yahoo.co.uk. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/dfarbey%40yahoo.co.uk Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: How to Create Bibliography in FM?
Thanks so much Robert! This is very helpful. Now I have everything setup the way I need. Have a great week! Orly. -Original Message- From: robert.lauris...@gmail.com [mailto:robert.lauris...@gmail.com] On Behalf Of Robert Lauriston Sent: Friday, December 12, 2014 7:08 PM To: Orly Zimmerman; framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: Re: How to Create Bibliography in FM? This is covered in the FM manual topic Create and maintain endnotes: http://help.adobe.com/en_US/framemaker/using/WSd817046a44e105e21e63e3d11ab7f7561e-7f49.html On Thu, Dec 11, 2014 at 12:44 PM, Robert Lauriston rob...@lauriston.com wrote: Don't use the footnote feature. Create a bibliography_entry paragraph format including an autonumber, then use a cross-reference in running text. Then you can cross-reference the same entry as many times as you like. On Thu, Dec 11, 2014 at 12:34 PM, Orly Zimmerman or...@marvell.com wrote: HI All, I have been given a task to create a bibliography for an article I’m writing. I would like to use Framemaker, but I have no idea how I get all the footnotes on the last pages of the file or in an appendix file as opposed to on the page where the footnote was created. ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: How to Create Bibliography in FM?
This is covered in the FM manual topic Create and maintain endnotes: http://help.adobe.com/en_US/framemaker/using/WSd817046a44e105e21e63e3d11ab7f7561e-7f49.html On Thu, Dec 11, 2014 at 12:44 PM, Robert Lauriston rob...@lauriston.com wrote: Don't use the footnote feature. Create a bibliography_entry paragraph format including an autonumber, then use a cross-reference in running text. Then you can cross-reference the same entry as many times as you like. On Thu, Dec 11, 2014 at 12:34 PM, Orly Zimmerman or...@marvell.com wrote: HI All, I have been given a task to create a bibliography for an article I’m writing. I would like to use Framemaker, but I have no idea how I get all the footnotes on the last pages of the file or in an appendix file as opposed to on the page where the footnote was created. ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: How to Create Bibliography in FM?
Don't use the footnote feature. Create a bibliography_entry paragraph format including an autonumber, then use a cross-reference in running text. Then you can cross-reference the same entry as many times as you like. On Thu, Dec 11, 2014 at 12:34 PM, Orly Zimmerman or...@marvell.com wrote: HI All, I have been given a task to create a bibliography for an article I’m writing. I would like to use Framemaker, but I have no idea how I get all the footnotes on the last pages of the file or in an appendix file as opposed to on the page where the footnote was created. ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: How to Create Bibliography in FM?
Hi, FM has never really been that great with such tasks. If it is an article you are writing in which you are going to cite references and you want a coherent style, then I would suggest using bibTeX/LaTeX or bibLaTeX/LaTeX. However if you are wedded to FM then you can export your text from FM as rtf and use one of the MS Word linked applications like EndNote. Newer versions of Word have a built in referencing engine that I have not used but others say is pretty good. Given that amount of work you may be just as well to go with the above suggestion or type and format the references by hand. At least in FM you can define paragraph and character styles relative to the reference formats. Alan On 12/12/14 9:34 am, Orly Zimmerman wrote: HI All, I have been given a task to create a bibliography for an article I’m writing. I would like to use Framemaker, but I have no idea how I get all the footnotes on the last pages of the file or in an appendix file as opposed to on the page where the footnote was created. I don’t mind writing out the Bibliography entry (I understand that there are different formats – as long as I stick to one format, I just add them as I create the article). Now I’m up to 6 different bib’s. I’ll cite it from page 1, and then cite from page 3 (using an x-ref in Footnote style); so page 3 needs to go back to page 1 to see the footnote. This doesn’t look right. And I will probably site the same footnote later on in the doc as well. Any ideas? Thanks! Orly Zimmerman ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as a...@alphabyte.co.nz. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/alan%40alphabyte.co.nz Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. -- Dr Alan Litchfield AlphaByte PO Box 1941 Auckland, New Zealand 1140 ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: How to Create Bibliography in FM?
Yes! I use bibLaTeX and LaTeX for articles like this too. Of course, this is not WYSIWYG, and you have to learn LaTeX, but the PDF output is super clean and consistent indeed. To edit LaTeX input files, I highly recommend TeXStudio - the virtually instantaneous PDF generation (with side-by-side clickable comparison to the source) makes it easy. Almost WYSIWYG in its speed. Z -Original Message- From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Alan Litchfield Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2014 12:47 PM To: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: Re: How to Create Bibliography in FM? Hi, FM has never really been that great with such tasks. If it is an article you are writing in which you are going to cite references and you want a coherent style, then I would suggest using bibTeX/LaTeX or bibLaTeX/LaTeX. However if you are wedded to FM then you can export your text from FM as rtf and use one of the MS Word linked applications like EndNote. Newer versions of Word have a built in referencing engine that I have not used but others say is pretty good. Given that amount of work you may be just as well to go with the above suggestion or type and format the references by hand. At least in FM you can define paragraph and character styles relative to the reference formats. Alan On 12/12/14 9:34 am, Orly Zimmerman wrote: HI All, I have been given a task to create a bibliography for an article I'm writing. I would like to use Framemaker, but I have no idea how I get all the footnotes on the last pages of the file or in an appendix file as opposed to on the page where the footnote was created. I don't mind writing out the Bibliography entry (I understand that there are different formats - as long as I stick to one format, I just add them as I create the article). Now I'm up to 6 different bib's. I'll cite it from page 1, and then cite from page 3 (using an x-ref in Footnote style); so page 3 needs to go back to page 1 to see the footnote. This doesn't look right. And I will probably site the same footnote later on in the doc as well. Any ideas? Thanks! Orly Zimmerman ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as a...@alphabyte.co.nz. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/alan%40alphabyte.c o.nz Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. -- Dr Alan Litchfield AlphaByte PO Box 1941 Auckland, New Zealand 1140 ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as syed.hos...@aeris.net. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/syed.hosain%40aeris.net Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: How to Create Bibliography in FM?
In your position, the first thing I would do is look for a bibliographic format used by a reputable journal in a relevant field of study/industry. That way you don't have to decide what looks good, you just have to follow an accepted style. Alison Alison Craig | Technical Documentation Lead Ultrasonix | 130-4311 Viking Way | Richmond, BC V6V 2K9 | analogicultrasound.comhttp://www.analogicultrasound.com T 604-279-8550 ext 127 | F 604-279-8559 From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Orly Zimmerman Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2014 12:34 PM To: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: How to Create Bibliography in FM? HI All, I have been given a task to create a bibliography for an article I'm writing. I would like to use Framemaker, but I have no idea how I get all the footnotes on the last pages of the file or in an appendix file as opposed to on the page where the footnote was created. I don't mind writing out the Bibliography entry (I understand that there are different formats - as long as I stick to one format, I just add them as I create the article). Now I'm up to 6 different bib's. I'll cite it from page 1, and then cite from page 3 (using an x-ref in Footnote style); so page 3 needs to go back to page 1 to see the footnote. This doesn't look right. And I will probably site the same footnote later on in the doc as well. Any ideas? Thanks! Orly Zimmerman ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
