SV: Adobe Unveils Technical Communication Suite
As I see it: With the new Adobe Suite-concept you will effectively be able to break the single-sourcing concept if you want, i.e. apply local changes as need be for last minute corrections. However, when working disciplined as of the single-sourcing concept itself, I think the suite-concept provides more overall-functionality than you've ever had -- for a lower price. Round-tripping the RH content back to FM would certainly be a really nice-to-have thing, but I wouldn't expect it to be a loss-less thing to implement, and what would it be worth then? I still think that outputting (you call it repurporsing) single sourced documents offer a win-win solution for all parties. One source to maintain and outputting it to many sources is still quite ideal in my view. I can't do anything else than welcome the new Techical Suite concept although several improvements still can be made (fortunately)! All the best Jacob Schäffer Grafikhuset ApS Paradis Allé 22 Ramløse 3200 Helsinge -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ] På vegne af Bill Swallow Sendt: 25. september 2007 19:22 Til: Lin Surasky Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Emne: Re: Adobe Unveils Technical Communication Suite Doesn't seem like much of an integration, and certainly isn't single-sourcing given you can't round-trip the RH content back to FM. It's a repurposing solution. On 9/25/07, Lin Surasky [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: According to Adobe's web site, RH 7 integration is one-way .fm or .mif file import. If this is true, it is not integration in my book. Nor is it any sort of improvement on the pre-Adobe versions, which imported MIF files at least since X5, if not before then -- Bill Swallow HATT List Owner WWP-Users List Owner Senior Member STC, TechValley Chapter STC Single-Sourcing SIG Manager http://techcommdood.blogspot.com ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/js%40grafi khuset.dk Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: SV: Adobe Unveils Technical Communication Suite
As long as the RH output can be perfected from within Frame (probably best done in xml), it's fine. If you have to output to RH, then make any large changes in RH, and then output to a preferred format (HTML help, JavaHelp, etc.), there's really no advantage.Sean Pollock Learning Media DevelopmentSiemens PLM Software Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2007 20:47:16 +0200 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: SV: Adobe Unveils Technical Communication Suite As I see it: With the new Adobe Suite-concept you will effectively be able to break the single-sourcing concept if you want, i.e. apply local changes as need be for last minute corrections. However, when working disciplined as of the single-sourcing concept itself, I think the suite-concept provides more overall-functionality than you've ever had -- for a lower price. Round-tripping the RH content back to FM would certainly be a really nice-to-have thing, but I wouldn't expect it to be a loss-less thing to implement, and what would it be worth then? I still think that outputting (you call it repurporsing) single sourced documents offer a win-win solution for all parties. One source to maintain and outputting it to many sources is still quite ideal in my view. I can't do anything else than welcome the new Techical Suite concept although several improvements still can be made (fortunately)! All the best Jacob Schäffer Grafikhuset ApS Paradis Allé 22 Ramløse 3200 Helsinge-Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ] På vegne af Bill Swallow Sendt: 25. september 2007 19:22 Til: Lin Surasky Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Emne: Re: Adobe Unveils Technical Communication Suite Doesn't seem like much of an integration, and certainly isn't single-sourcing given you can't round-trip the RH content back to FM. It's a repurposing solution. On 9/25/07, Lin Surasky [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: According to Adobe's web site, RH 7 integration is one-way .fm or .mif file import. If this is true, it is not integration in my book. Nor is it any sort of improvement on the pre-Adobe versions, which imported MIF files at least since X5, if not before then-- Bill Swallow HATT List Owner WWP-Users List Owner Senior Member STC, TechValley Chapter STC Single-Sourcing SIG Manager http://techcommdood.blogspot.com ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED]Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED]To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/js%40grafi khuset.dk Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/spolloc1%40hotmail.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. _ More photos; more messages; more whatever – Get MORE with Windows Live™ Hotmail®. NOW with 5GB storage. http://imagine-windowslive.com/hotmail/?locale=en-usocid=TXT_TAGHM_migration_HM_mini_5G_0907___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
SV: Adobe Unveils Technical Communication Suite
As I see it: With the new Adobe Suite-concept you will effectively be able to break the single-sourcing concept if you want, i.e. apply local changes as need be for last minute corrections. However, when working disciplined as of the single-sourcing concept itself, I think the suite-concept provides more overall-functionality than you've ever had -- for a lower price. Round-tripping the RH content back to FM would certainly be a really nice-to-have thing, but I wouldn't expect it to be a loss-less thing to implement, and what would it be worth then? I still think that outputting (you call it repurporsing) single sourced documents offer a win-win solution for all parties. One source to maintain and outputting it to many sources is still quite ideal in my view. I can't do anything else than welcome the new Techical Suite concept although several improvements still can be made (fortunately)! All the best Jacob Sch?ffer Grafikhuset ApS Paradis All? 22 Raml?se 3200 Helsinge > -Oprindelig meddelelse- > Fra: framers-bounces+js=grafikhuset.dk at lists.frameusers.com > [mailto:framers-bounces+js=grafikhuset.dk at lists.frameusers.com > ] P? vegne af Bill Swallow > Sendt: 25. september 2007 19:22 > Til: Lin Surasky > Cc: framers at frameusers.com; framers at omsys.com; > Frame2Acrobat at egroups.com > Emne: Re: Adobe Unveils Technical Communication Suite > > > Doesn't seem like much of an integration, and certainly isn't > single-sourcing given you can't round-trip the RH content > back to FM. It's a repurposing solution. > > On 9/25/07, Lin Surasky wrote: > > > > > According to Adobe's web site, RH 7 "integration" is > one-way .fm or > > > .mif file import. If this is true, it is not integration > in my book. > > > > > > > Nor is it any sort of improvement on the pre-Adobe versions, which > > imported MIF files at least since X5, if not before then > > -- > Bill Swallow > HATT List Owner > WWP-Users List Owner > Senior Member STC, TechValley Chapter > STC Single-Sourcing SIG Manager > http://techcommdood.blogspot.com > ___ > > > You are currently subscribed to Framers as js at grafikhuset.dk. > > Send list messages to framers at lists.frameusers.com. > > To unsubscribe send a blank email to > framers-unsubscribe at lists.frameusers.com > or visit > http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/js%40grafi khuset.dk Send administrative questions to listadmin at frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
SV: Adobe Unveils Technical Communication Suite
As long as the RH output can be perfected from within Frame (probably best done in xml), it's fine. If you have to output to RH, then make any large changes in RH, and then output to a preferred format (HTML help, JavaHelp, etc.), there's really no advantage.Sean Pollock Learning & Media DevelopmentSiemens PLM Software > Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2007 20:47:16 +0200> From: js at grafikhuset.dk> To: > framers at frameusers.com> CC: framers at omsys.com; Frame2Acrobat at > egroups.com; Lin.Surasky at retalix.com> Subject: SV: Adobe Unveils Technical > Communication Suite> > As I see it: With the new Adobe Suite-concept you will > effectively be able to break the single-sourcing concept if you want, i.e. > apply local changes as need be for last minute corrections. However, when > working disciplined as of the single-sourcing concept itself, I think the > suite-concept provides more overall-functionality than you've ever had -- for > a lower price.> > Round-tripping the RH content back to FM would certainly be > a really nice-to-have thing, but I wouldn't expect it to be a loss-less thing > to implement, and what would it be worth then? I still think that outputting > (you call it repurporsing) single sourced documents offer a win-win solution > for all parties. One source to maintain and outputting it to many sources is > still quite ideal in my view.> > I can't do anything else than welcome the > new Techical Suite concept although several improvements still can be made > (fortunately)!> > All the best> Jacob Sch?ffer> Grafikhuset ApS> Paradis All? > 22> Raml?se> 3200 Helsinge> > > > -Oprindelig meddelelse-> > Fra: > framers-bounces+js=grafikhuset.dk at lists.frameusers.com > > > [mailto:framers-bounces+js=grafikhuset.dk at lists.frameusers.com> > ] P? > vegne af Bill Swallow> > Sendt: 25. september 2007 19:22> > Til: Lin Surasky> > > Cc: framers at frameusers.com; framers at omsys.com; > > Frame2Acrobat at > egroups.com> > Emne: Re: Adobe Unveils Technical Communication Suite> > > > > > > Doesn't seem like much of an integration, and certainly isn't > > > single-sourcing given you can't round-trip the RH content > > back to FM. > It's a repurposing solution.> > > > On 9/25/07, Lin Surasky retalix.com> wrote:> > >> > > > According to Adobe's web site, RH 7 > "integration" is > > one-way .fm or > > > > .mif file import. If this is > true, it is not integration > > in my book.> > > >> > >> > > Nor is it any > sort of improvement on the pre-Adobe versions, which > > > imported MIF files > at least since X5, if not before then> > > > -- > > Bill Swallow> > HATT > List Owner> > WWP-Users List Owner> > Senior Member STC, TechValley Chapter> > > STC Single-Sourcing SIG Manager > > http://techcommdood.blogspot.com > > > ___> > > > > > You are currently > subscribed to Framers as js at grafikhuset.dk.> > > > Send list messages to > framers at lists.frameusers.com.> > > > To unsubscribe send a blank email to > > > framers-unsubscribe at lists.frameusers.com> > or visit > > > http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/js%40grafi> khuset.dk> > > Send administrative questions to listadmin at frameusers.com. Visit > http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.> > ___> > > You are currently > subscribed to Framers as spolloc1 at hotmail.com.> > Send list messages to > framers at lists.frameusers.com.> > To unsubscribe send a blank email to > > framers-unsubscribe at lists.frameusers.com> or visit > http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/spolloc1%40hotmail.com> > > Send administrative questions to listadmin at frameusers.com. Visit> > http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. _ More photos; more messages; more whatever ? Get MORE with Windows Live? Hotmail?. NOW with 5GB storage. http://imagine-windowslive.com/hotmail/?locale=en-us=TXT_TAGHM_migration_HM_mini_5G_0907