Save as RTF?

2006-03-02 Thread Robert Kern
Murray,

We have to maintain Word versions of all chapters on a book for 
individual content owners to work with after each quarterly printing.

After we print the book, we impose a plain vanilla Frame template on the 
files to eliminate all the design and problems that occur with lists and 
such. We also run the art folder through a photoshop macro to reduce the 
resolution to 72 dpi (resolves a lot of the size issue) and relink the 
art to the new folder.

We still have to go through each chapter to check on extraneous returns 
and anomalies, but it seems to be a good way to get 98% of the way to 
clean RTF using only Frame's built in capabilities.

-bob
TIPS Technical Publishing, Inc.

pearlrosenberg at nc.rr.com wrote:

>Murray,
>
>I have never gotten save as Microsoft Word Win 6.0/7.0 to work.
>
>I have gotten save as RTF to work, but the files are HUGE, especially 
>if they have graphics.
>
>Pearl Rosenberg
>TeleHealth Services
>
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>>Does Save as RTF, and Save as Microsoft Word Win 6.0/7.0, ever 
>>work, under any circumstance? 
>>
>>If yes, what is the procedure? 
>>
>>If no (rhetorical question), why are they in the list of Save 
>>
>>
>options? 
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Save as RTF?

2006-03-02 Thread pearlrosenb...@nc.rr.com
Murray,

I have never gotten save as Microsoft Word Win 6.0/7.0 to work.

I have gotten save as RTF to work, but the files are HUGE, especially 
if they have graphics.

Pearl Rosenberg
TeleHealth Services


- Original Message -
From: Murray Moore 
Date: Thursday, March 2, 2006 8:19 am
Subject: Save as RTF?
> Version 6.0p405 
> Windows XP Pro Version 2002 Service Pack 2 
> 
> I am trying to convince my manager to buy mif2go. 
> 
> Does Save as RTF, and Save as Microsoft Word Win 6.0/7.0, ever 
> work, under any circumstance? 
> 
> If yes, what is the procedure? 
> 
> If no (rhetorical question), why are they in the list of Save 
options? 
> 
> /\/\ 
> Murray 
> Mississauga 
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Save as RTF?

2006-03-02 Thread Art Campbell
I think that you can assume they work for some people all of the time
or all people some of the time.
But the issue you're raising is actually quality of translation and
depth of features.
 And MIF2Go supports many more nuances that can be exported more
correctly. A head-to-head comparison of your more complicated docs
should be a good demo.

And that's not even exploring MIF2Go's other export abilies.

Art

On 3/2/06, Murray Moore  wrote:
> Version 6.0p405
> Windows XP Pro Version 2002 Service Pack 2
>
> I am trying to convince my manager to buy mif2go.
>
> Does Save as RTF, and Save as Microsoft Word Win 6.0/7.0, ever work, under 
> any circumstance?
>
> If yes, what is the procedure?
>
> If no (rhetorical question), why are they in the list of Save options?



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Re: Save as RTF?

2006-03-02 Thread Robert Kern

Murray,

We have to maintain Word versions of all chapters on a book for 
individual content owners to work with after each quarterly printing.


After we print the book, we impose a plain vanilla Frame template on the 
files to eliminate all the design and problems that occur with lists and 
such. We also run the art folder through a photoshop macro to reduce the 
resolution to 72 dpi (resolves a lot of the size issue) and relink the 
art to the new folder.


We still have to go through each chapter to check on extraneous returns 
and anomalies, but it seems to be a good way to get 98% of the way to 
clean RTF using only Frame's built in capabilities.


-bob
TIPS Technical Publishing, Inc.

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Murray,

I have never gotten save as Microsoft Word Win 6.0/7.0 to work.

I have gotten save as RTF to work, but the files are HUGE, especially 
if they have graphics.


Pearl Rosenberg
TeleHealth Services


- Original Message -
From: Murray Moore <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Thursday, March 2, 2006 8:19 am
Subject: Save as RTF?
 

Version 6.0p405 
Windows XP Pro Version 2002 Service Pack 2 

I am trying to convince my manager to buy mif2go. 

Does Save as RTF, and Save as Microsoft Word Win 6.0/7.0, ever 
work, under any circumstance? 

If yes, what is the procedure? 

If no (rhetorical question), why are they in the list of Save 
   

options? 
 

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Murray 
Mississauga 





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Save as RTF?

2006-03-02 Thread Grant Hogarth
Murray -- 
The embedded "Save as RTF/MS Word" tool does work , but not
reliably.  
Think of it as the lightweight "starter home" toolkit.  It can get most
of the job done, but not well and not completely.  MIF2Go's RTF engine
is a completely separate process, much more robust and very actively
maintained.  It's a "professional-grade" tool.

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On Behalf Of Murray Moore
Sent: Thursday, March 02, 2006 6:20 AM
To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Save as RTF?

Version 6.0p405
Windows XP Pro Version 2002 Service Pack 2

I am trying to convince my manager to buy mif2go.

Does Save as RTF, and Save as Microsoft Word Win 6.0/7.0, ever work,
under any circumstance?

If yes, what is the procedure?

If no (rhetorical question), why are they in the list of Save options?

/\/\
Murray
Mississauga



Re: Save as RTF?

2006-03-02 Thread pearlrosenberg
Murray,

I have never gotten save as Microsoft Word Win 6.0/7.0 to work.

I have gotten save as RTF to work, but the files are HUGE, especially 
if they have graphics.

Pearl Rosenberg
TeleHealth Services


- Original Message -
From: Murray Moore <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Thursday, March 2, 2006 8:19 am
Subject: Save as RTF?
> Version 6.0p405 
> Windows XP Pro Version 2002 Service Pack 2 
> 
> I am trying to convince my manager to buy mif2go. 
> 
> Does Save as RTF, and Save as Microsoft Word Win 6.0/7.0, ever 
> work, under any circumstance? 
> 
> If yes, what is the procedure? 
> 
> If no (rhetorical question), why are they in the list of Save 
options? 
> 
> /\/\ 
> Murray 
> Mississauga 
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Save as RTF?

2006-03-02 Thread Linda G. Gallagher
Murray,

Your mileage may vary, but I can't get FM's Save As .rtf to work. I use
Mif2Go for that conversion regularly and am happy with the results. So are
my clients who ask for the .rtf output.

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Sent: Thursday, March 02, 2006 6:20 AM
To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Save as RTF?


Version 6.0p405
Windows XP Pro Version 2002 Service Pack 2

I am trying to convince my manager to buy mif2go.

Does Save as RTF, and Save as Microsoft Word Win 6.0/7.0, ever work, under
any circumstance?

If yes, what is the procedure?

If no (rhetorical question), why are they in the list of Save options?

/\/\
Murray
Mississauga




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Save as RTF?

2006-03-02 Thread Murray Moore
Version 6.0p405
Windows XP Pro Version 2002 Service Pack 2

I am trying to convince my manager to buy mif2go.

Does Save as RTF, and Save as Microsoft Word Win 6.0/7.0, ever work, under any 
circumstance?

If yes, what is the procedure?

If no (rhetorical question), why are they in the list of Save options?

/\/\
Murray
Mississauga







RE: Save as RTF?

2006-03-02 Thread Grant Hogarth
Murray -- 
The embedded "Save as RTF/MS Word" tool does work , but not
reliably.  
Think of it as the lightweight "starter home" toolkit.  It can get most
of the job done, but not well and not completely.  MIF2Go's RTF engine
is a completely separate process, much more robust and very actively
maintained.  It's a "professional-grade" tool.

Grant
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To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Save as RTF?

Version 6.0p405
Windows XP Pro Version 2002 Service Pack 2

I am trying to convince my manager to buy mif2go.

Does Save as RTF, and Save as Microsoft Word Win 6.0/7.0, ever work,
under any circumstance?

If yes, what is the procedure?

If no (rhetorical question), why are they in the list of Save options?

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RE: Save as RTF?

2006-03-02 Thread Linda G. Gallagher
Murray,

Your mileage may vary, but I can't get FM's Save As .rtf to work. I use
Mif2Go for that conversion regularly and am happy with the results. So are
my clients who ask for the .rtf output.

~~
Linda G. Gallagher
TechCom Plus, LLC
Intelligent technical communication since 1993
Technical writing, help development,
FrameMaker and WebWorks Publisher conversions
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Subject: Save as RTF?


Version 6.0p405
Windows XP Pro Version 2002 Service Pack 2

I am trying to convince my manager to buy mif2go.

Does Save as RTF, and Save as Microsoft Word Win 6.0/7.0, ever work, under
any circumstance?

If yes, what is the procedure?

If no (rhetorical question), why are they in the list of Save options?

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Mississauga




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Re: Save as RTF?

2006-03-02 Thread Art Campbell
I think that you can assume they work for some people all of the time
or all people some of the time.
But the issue you're raising is actually quality of translation and
depth of features.
 And MIF2Go supports many more nuances that can be exported more
correctly. A head-to-head comparison of your more complicated docs
should be a good demo.

And that's not even exploring MIF2Go's other export abilies.

Art

On 3/2/06, Murray Moore <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Version 6.0p405
> Windows XP Pro Version 2002 Service Pack 2
>
> I am trying to convince my manager to buy mif2go.
>
> Does Save as RTF, and Save as Microsoft Word Win 6.0/7.0, ever work, under 
> any circumstance?
>
> If yes, what is the procedure?
>
> If no (rhetorical question), why are they in the list of Save options?



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Save as RTF?

2006-03-02 Thread Murray Moore
Version 6.0p405
Windows XP Pro Version 2002 Service Pack 2

I am trying to convince my manager to buy mif2go.

Does Save as RTF, and Save as Microsoft Word Win 6.0/7.0, ever work, under any 
circumstance?

If yes, what is the procedure?

If no (rhetorical question), why are they in the list of Save options?

/\/\
Murray
Mississauga




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