SOLVED -- Re: Smart Quotes pretty dumb in Gentium Basic, Minion Pro, andAuld Uncle Tom Cobbleigh and All

2008-02-12 Thread Bodvar Bjorgvinsson 
You should expect some anomalies as their website warns:

QUOTE
Beta version
These fonts are intended only for preliminary testing, as they contain
bugs. Many aspects of the fonts, including glyph metrics, may change
before the final release.
UNQUOTE
http://scripts.sil.org/cms/scripts/page.php?site_id=nrsi&item_id=Gentium_basic

But thanks for the mentioning the font. I got the above link from an
RGLUG list message today. Real nice fonts. I think I will download the
family.

About the Minion Pro, I don't know if this is of any help but here is
a discussion on problems with diacritics on that font:
http://groups.google.com/group/adobe.typography/browse_thread/thread/5f5060dc523ad2f7


Bodvar


On Mon, Feb 11, 2008 at 10:58 PM, Hedley Finger
 wrote:
>
>  All:
>
>  At Tuesday, 12/02/2008, 04:38 AM;, you wrote:
>  >Your latest message must have been transmitted in MIME format. It
>  >came through silent. :)
>
>  Now that I've got everyone's attention ... somehow that paste didn't
>  happen and I sent off an empty message.  Sorry if it didn't satisfy
>  your humger for knowledge. [Boom, boom.]
>
>  >Smart Quotes is on but when I press ' or ", question marks (?) appear
>  >in Gentium Basic and Minion Pro fonts, not quotes.
>  >Apart from these [fonts, selected for testing because high quality],
>  >Smart Quotes does not work with any *.ps, *.ttf or
>  >*.otf font from any manufacturer.  Anybody else seen this?  What is the
>  >fix?
>  >You can still insert the single and double quotation marks from the
>  >Character Map on Windows, but what a pain!
>
>  Well, I discovered the fix is simple.  Choose Format > Document >
>  Text Options and CLEAR the Smart Quotes checkbox.  Yep, deselecting
>  this checkbox causes the appropriate opening and closing quotation
>  marks to be inserted when you press " or ".
>
>  Regards,
>  Hedley
>
>
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>  E-mail 
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SOLVED -- Re: Smart Quotes pretty dumb in Gentium Basic, Minion Pro, andAuld Uncle Tom Cobbleigh and All

2008-02-12 Thread Hedley Finger 

All:

At Tuesday, 12/02/2008, 04:38 AM;, you wrote:
>Your latest message must have been transmitted in MIME format. It 
>came through silent. :)

Now that I've got everyone's attention ... somehow that paste didn't 
happen and I sent off an empty message.  Sorry if it didn't satisfy 
your humger for knowledge. [Boom, boom.]

>Smart Quotes is on but when I press ' or ", question marks (?) appear
>in Gentium Basic and Minion Pro fonts, not quotes.
>Apart from these [fonts, selected for testing because high quality], 
>Smart Quotes does not work with any *.ps, *.ttf or
>*.otf font from any manufacturer.  Anybody else seen this?  What is the
>fix?
>You can still insert the single and double quotation marks from the
>Character Map on Windows, but what a pain!

Well, I discovered the fix is simple.  Choose Format > Document > 
Text Options and CLEAR the Smart Quotes checkbox.  Yep, deselecting 
this checkbox causes the appropriate opening and closing quotation 
marks to be inserted when you press " or ".

Regards,
Hedley


--
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28 Regent Street   Camberwell VIC 3124   Australia
Tel. +61 3 9809 1229   Mobile +61 412 461 558,
E-mail

Re: SOLVED -- Re: Smart Quotes pretty dumb in Gentium Basic, Minion Pro, andAuld Uncle Tom Cobbleigh and All

2008-02-12 Thread Bodvar Bjorgvinsson 
You should expect some anomalies as their website warns:

QUOTE
Beta version
These fonts are intended only for preliminary testing, as they contain
bugs. Many aspects of the fonts, including glyph metrics, may change
before the final release.
UNQUOTE
http://scripts.sil.org/cms/scripts/page.php?site_id=nrsi&item_id=Gentium_basic

But thanks for the mentioning the font. I got the above link from an
RGLUG list message today. Real nice fonts. I think I will download the
family.

About the Minion Pro, I don't know if this is of any help but here is
a discussion on problems with diacritics on that font:
http://groups.google.com/group/adobe.typography/browse_thread/thread/5f5060dc523ad2f7


Bodvar


On Mon, Feb 11, 2008 at 10:58 PM, Hedley Finger
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>  All:
>
>  At Tuesday, 12/02/2008, 04:38 AM;, you wrote:
>  >Your latest message must have been transmitted in MIME format. It
>  >came through silent. :)
>
>  Now that I've got everyone's attention ... somehow that paste didn't
>  happen and I sent off an empty message.  Sorry if it didn't satisfy
>  your humger for knowledge. [Boom, boom.]
>
>  >Smart Quotes is on but when I press ' or ", question marks (?) appear
>  >in Gentium Basic and Minion Pro fonts, not quotes.
>  >Apart from these [fonts, selected for testing because high quality],
>  >Smart Quotes does not work with any *.ps, *.ttf or
>  >*.otf font from any manufacturer.  Anybody else seen this?  What is the
>  >fix?
>  >You can still insert the single and double quotation marks from the
>  >Character Map on Windows, but what a pain!
>
>  Well, I discovered the fix is simple.  Choose Format > Document >
>  Text Options and CLEAR the Smart Quotes checkbox.  Yep, deselecting
>  this checkbox causes the appropriate opening and closing quotation
>  marks to be inserted when you press " or ".
>
>  Regards,
>  Hedley
>
>
>  --
>  Hedley Stewart Finger
>  28 Regent Street   Camberwell VIC 3124   Australia
>  Tel. +61 3 9809 1229   Mobile +61 412 461 558,
>  E-mail 
>
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SOLVED -- Re: Smart Quotes pretty dumb in Gentium Basic, Minion Pro, andAuld Uncle Tom Cobbleigh and All

2008-02-11 Thread Hedley Finger 

All:

At Tuesday, 12/02/2008, 04:38 AM;, you wrote:
>Your latest message must have been transmitted in MIME format. It 
>came through silent. :)

Now that I've got everyone's attention ... somehow that paste didn't 
happen and I sent off an empty message.  Sorry if it didn't satisfy 
your humger for knowledge. [Boom, boom.]

>Smart Quotes is on but when I press ' or ", question marks (?) appear
>in Gentium Basic and Minion Pro fonts, not quotes.
>Apart from these [fonts, selected for testing because high quality], 
>Smart Quotes does not work with any *.ps, *.ttf or
>*.otf font from any manufacturer.  Anybody else seen this?  What is the
>fix?
>You can still insert the single and double quotation marks from the
>Character Map on Windows, but what a pain!

Well, I discovered the fix is simple.  Choose Format > Document > 
Text Options and CLEAR the Smart Quotes checkbox.  Yep, deselecting 
this checkbox causes the appropriate opening and closing quotation 
marks to be inserted when you press " or ".

Regards,
Hedley


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Tel. +61 3 9809 1229   Mobile +61 412 461 558,
E-mail 


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Smart Quotes pretty dumb in Gentium Basic, Minion Pro, andAuld Uncle Tom Cobbleigh and All

2008-02-11 Thread Stuart Rogers 
Mike Wickham wrote:

> Your latest message must have been transmitted in MIME format. It came 
> through silent. :)
> 


Stop that.  You're making my fillings hurt.


:)

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Smart Quotes pretty dumb in Gentium Basic, Minion Pro, andAuld Uncle Tom Cobbleigh and All

2008-02-11 Thread Mike Wickham 
Hedley,

Your latest message must have been transmitted in MIME format. It came 
through silent. :)

Mike Wickham

- Original Message - 
From: "Hedley Finger" 
To: 
Sent: Monday, February 11, 2008 3:09 AM
Subject: Re: Smart Quotes pretty dumb in Gentium Basic, Minion Pro, andAuld 
Uncle Tom Cobbleigh and All


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Re: Smart Quotes pretty dumb in Gentium Basic, Minion Pro, andAuld Uncle Tom Cobbleigh and All

2008-02-11 Thread Stuart Rogers 
Mike Wickham wrote:

> Your latest message must have been transmitted in MIME format. It came 
> through silent. :)
> 


Stop that.  You're making my fillings hurt.


:)

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Re: Smart Quotes pretty dumb in Gentium Basic, Minion Pro, andAuld Uncle Tom Cobbleigh and All

2008-02-11 Thread Mike Wickham 
Hedley,

Your latest message must have been transmitted in MIME format. It came 
through silent. :)

Mike Wickham

- Original Message - 
From: "Hedley Finger" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Monday, February 11, 2008 3:09 AM
Subject: Re: Smart Quotes pretty dumb in Gentium Basic, Minion Pro, andAuld 
Uncle Tom Cobbleigh and All


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