Smart Quotes pretty dumb in Gentium Basic, Minion Pro, and Auld Uncle Tom Cobbleigh and All

[Hedley Finger]

Smart Quotes pretty dumb in Gentium Basic, Minion Pro, and Auld Uncle Tom Cobbleigh and All.

[Rhea Barron]

Smart Quotes pretty dumb in Gentium Basic, Minion Pro, and Auld Uncle Tom Cobbleigh and All.

[Hedley Finger]

Smart Quotes is on but when I press ' or ", question marks (?) appear 
in Gentium Basic and Minion Pro fonts, not quotes.

Gentium Basic was selected for testing because it is an Unicode 
conforming font that supports every alphabet based on roman or 
cyrillic glyphs, including accents.  It is developed and maintained 
by SIL (formerly Summer Institute of Linguistics) and is a 
high-quality font to support their mission of translating the 
Christian holy books into local languages and is complete within its scope.

Minion Pro was selected for testing because it is from the 
manufacturer's of FrameMaker, so you would think that the developers 
would know, and presumably it came packaged with one of the many 
Adobe products purchased over the years.

Apart from these, Smart Quotes does not work with any *.ps, *.ttf or 
*.otf font from any manufacturer.  Anybody else seen this?  What is the fix?

You can still insert the single and double quotation marks from the 
Character Map on Windows, but what a pain!

Regards,
Hedley

P.S.  FrameMaker 8.0p273 (latest patch), originally purchased as part 
of Adobe Tech. Comms Suite.



--
Hedley Stewart Finger
28 Regent Street   Camberwell VIC 3124   Australia
Tel. +61 3 9809 1229   Mobile +61 412 461 558,
E-mail 

Re: Smart Quotes pretty dumb in Gentium Basic, Minion Pro, and Auld Uncle Tom Cobbleigh and All.

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Re: Smart Quotes pretty dumb in Gentium Basic, Minion Pro, and Auld Uncle Tom Cobbleigh and All.

[Susan Modlin]

Hmmm. I use Minion Pro, Win XP Pro, FM 7.2p158 and have no problems with smart 
quotes. Smart e-mails are another issue entirely .

...Susan

- Original Message 
From: Hedley Finger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: Frame Users <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2008 6:01:11 PM
Subject: Smart Quotes pretty dumb in Gentium Basic, Minion Pro, and Auld Uncle 
Tom Cobbleigh and All.



Smart 
Quotes 
is 
on 
but 
when 
I 
press 
' 
or 
", 
question 
marks 
(?) 
appear 
in 
Gentium 
Basic 
and 
Minion 
Pro 
fonts, 
not 
quotes.

Gentium 
Basic 
was 
selected 
for 
testing 
because 
it 
is 
an 
Unicode 
conforming 
font 
that 
supports 
every 
alphabet 
based 
on 
roman 
or 
cyrillic 
glyphs, 
including 
accents.  
It 
is 
developed 
and 
maintained 
by 
SIL 
(formerly 
Summer 
Institute 
of 
Linguistics) 
and 
is 
a 
high-quality 
font 
to 
support 
their 
mission 
of 
translating 
the 
Christian 
holy 
books 
into 
local 
languages 
and 
is 
complete 
within 
its 
scope.

Minion 
Pro 
was 
selected 
for 
testing 
because 
it 
is 
from 
the 
manufacturer's 
of 
FrameMaker, 
so 
you 
would 
think 
that 
the 
developers 
would 
know, 
and 
presumably 
it 
came 
packaged 
with 
one 
of 
the 
many 
Adobe 
products 
purchased 
over 
the 
years.

Apart 
from 
these, 
Smart 
Quotes 
does 
not 
work 
with 
any 
*.ps, 
*.ttf 
or 
*.otf 
font 
from 
any 
manufacturer.  
Anybody 
else 
seen 
this?  
What 
is 
the 
fix?

You 
can 
still 
insert 
the 
single 
and 
double 
quotation 
marks 
from 
the 
Character 
Map 
on 
Windows, 
but 
what 
a 
pain!

Regards,
Hedley

P.S.  
FrameMaker 
8.0p273 
(latest 
patch), 
originally 
purchased 
as 
part 
of 
Adobe 
Tech. 
Comms 
Suite.



--
Hedley 
Stewart 
Finger
28 
Regent 
Street  
 
Camberwell 
VIC 
3124  
 
Australia
Tel. 
+61 
3 
9809 
1229  
 
Mobile 
+61 
412 
461 
558,
E-mail 
<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>


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Smart Quotes pretty dumb in Gentium Basic, Minion Pro, and Auld Uncle Tom Cobbleigh and All.

[Susan Modlin]

Hmmm. I use Minion Pro, Win XP Pro, FM 7.2p158 and have no problems with smart 
quotes. Smart e-mails are another issue entirely .

...Susan

- Original Message 
From: Hedley Finger 
To: Frame Users ; framemaker-dita at yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2008 6:01:11 PM
Subject: Smart Quotes pretty dumb in Gentium Basic, Minion Pro, and Auld Uncle 
Tom Cobbleigh and All.



Smart 
Quotes 
is 
on 
but 
when 
I 
press 
' 
or 
", 
question 
marks 
(?) 
appear 
in 
Gentium 
Basic 
and 
Minion 
Pro 
fonts, 
not 
quotes.

Gentium 
Basic 
was 
selected 
for 
testing 
because 
it 
is 
an 
Unicode 
conforming 
font 
that 
supports 
every 
alphabet 
based 
on 
roman 
or 
cyrillic 
glyphs, 
including 
accents.  
It 
is 
developed 
and 
maintained 
by 
SIL 
(formerly 
Summer 
Institute 
of 
Linguistics) 
and 
is 
a 
high-quality 
font 
to 
support 
their 
mission 
of 
translating 
the 
Christian 
holy 
books 
into 
local 
languages 
and 
is 
complete 
within 
its 
scope.

Minion 
Pro 
was 
selected 
for 
testing 
because 
it 
is 
from 
the 
manufacturer's 
of 
FrameMaker, 
so 
you 
would 
think 
that 
the 
developers 
would 
know, 
and 
presumably 
it 
came 
packaged 
with 
one 
of 
the 
many 
Adobe 
products 
purchased 
over 
the 
years.

Apart 
from 
these, 
Smart 
Quotes 
does 
not 
work 
with 
any 
*.ps, 
*.ttf 
or 
*.otf 
font 
from 
any 
manufacturer.  
Anybody 
else 
seen 
this?  
What 
is 
the 
fix?

You 
can 
still 
insert 
the 
single 
and 
double 
quotation 
marks 
from 
the 
Character 
Map 
on 
Windows, 
but 
what 
a 
pain!

Regards,
Hedley

P.S.  
FrameMaker 
8.0p273 
(latest 
patch), 
originally 
purchased 
as 
part 
of 
Adobe 
Tech. 
Comms 
Suite.



--
Hedley 
Stewart 
Finger
28 
Regent 
Street  

Camberwell 
VIC 
3124  

Australia
Tel. 
+61 
3 
9809 
1229  

Mobile 
+61 
412 
461 
558,
E-mail 
<mailto:hfinger at handholding.com.au>


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Re: Smart Quotes pretty dumb in Gentium Basic, Minion Pro, and Auld Uncle Tom Cobbleigh and All

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Smart Quotes pretty dumb in Gentium Basic, Minion Pro, and Auld Uncle Tom Cobbleigh and All.

[Hedley Finger]

Smart Quotes is on but when I press ' or ", question marks (?) appear 
in Gentium Basic and Minion Pro fonts, not quotes.

Gentium Basic was selected for testing because it is an Unicode 
conforming font that supports every alphabet based on roman or 
cyrillic glyphs, including accents.  It is developed and maintained 
by SIL (formerly Summer Institute of Linguistics) and is a 
high-quality font to support their mission of translating the 
Christian holy books into local languages and is complete within its scope.

Minion Pro was selected for testing because it is from the 
manufacturer's of FrameMaker, so you would think that the developers 
would know, and presumably it came packaged with one of the many 
Adobe products purchased over the years.

Apart from these, Smart Quotes does not work with any *.ps, *.ttf or 
*.otf font from any manufacturer.  Anybody else seen this?  What is the fix?

You can still insert the single and double quotation marks from the 
Character Map on Windows, but what a pain!

Regards,
Hedley

P.S.  FrameMaker 8.0p273 (latest patch), originally purchased as part 
of Adobe Tech. Comms Suite.



--
Hedley Stewart Finger
28 Regent Street   Camberwell VIC 3124   Australia
Tel. +61 3 9809 1229   Mobile +61 412 461 558,
E-mail 


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