Solved: Trouble with paragraph tags in TOC

2007-08-27 Thread Stuart Rogers
Jon Harvey wrote:
>...Apparently, unless a heading tag is used in the body pages of a
> document, FM ignores it when generating the TOC. For example, I was
> using the Chapter.name tag on the master page named "First" but not in
> body pages that used this master page. Therefore, Chapter.nameTOC never
> showed up in the body of the TOC.
> 
> If anyone knows how to get styles that appear only on master pages to
> appear in the body of the TOC, I would be interested in hearing about
> it..Jon

Hi Jon,

If there is a way, it's probably pretty convoluted.  When you think
about it, it only makes sense that FM behaves the way it does.

The purpose of a master page is to serve as a single-page template,
with placeholders for text and variables, and other content like
watermarks that never change.  Although that content is visible on body
pages, you cannot edit it -- it belongs to the master page, not the body
page.  Since a master page does not have a page number of its own, its
content cannot be included in a TOC or other generated file.

In other words, you've been trying to use master pages for a purpose
they weren't intended for.  Set up your master pages with all the
placeholders you need, but put the actual content on the body pages.

Best regards,

-- 
Stuart Rogers
Technical Communicator
Phoenix Geophysics Limited
Toronto, ON, Canada
+1 (416) 491-7340 x 325

srogers phoenix-geophysics com

"Not later than three days before unexpected shipment, the Buyer informs
the Seller about possibility for receipt of the Goods."

? from a foreign sales contract




Solved: Trouble with paragraph tags in TOC

2007-08-27 Thread Jon Harvey
For those who may not have been following, the problem was: When
building a TOC, some headings were not appearing in the body of the TOC
even though they we being generated in the TOC reference pages. Couldn't
figure out why.

I resolved the problem when I realized that the missing TOC content was
being generated from tags that I was using only in the document's master
pages. Apparently, unless a heading tag is used in the body pages of a
document, FM ignores it when generating the TOC. For example, I was
using the Chapter.name tag on the master page named "First" but not in
body pages that used this master page. Therefore, Chapter.nameTOC never
showed up in the body of the TOC.

If anyone knows how to get styles that appear only on master pages to
appear in the body of the TOC, I would be interested in hearing about
it..Jon

-Original Message-
From: Stuart Rogers [mailto:srog...@phoenix-geophysics.com] 
Sent: Friday, August 24, 2007 5:51 PM
To: Jon Harvey
Cc: Framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Re: Trouble with paragraph tags in TOC

Jon Harvey wrote:
> That's the strange part. The tags are listed in the Setup dialog
> along with the ones that are working correctly.
> 
> BTW, I'm using FM 7.2 on Windows if it makes a difference.
> 

Check to make sure there's only one TOC reference page.  Sometimes a
second one gets created or imported, and you end up going crazy
modifying the one that isn't active.

HTH,


-- 
Stuart Rogers
Technical Communicator
Phoenix Geophysics Limited
Toronto, ON, Canada
+1 (416) 491-7340 x 325

srogers phoenix-geophysics com

"Not later than three days before unexpected shipment, the Buyer informs
the Seller about possibility for receipt of the Goods."

- from a foreign sales contract



Re: Solved: Trouble with paragraph tags in TOC

2007-08-27 Thread Stuart Rogers
Jon Harvey wrote:
>...Apparently, unless a heading tag is used in the body pages of a
> document, FM ignores it when generating the TOC. For example, I was
> using the Chapter.name tag on the master page named "First" but not in
> body pages that used this master page. Therefore, Chapter.nameTOC never
> showed up in the body of the TOC.
> 
> If anyone knows how to get styles that appear only on master pages to
> appear in the body of the TOC, I would be interested in hearing about
> it..Jon

Hi Jon,

If there is a way, it's probably pretty convoluted.  When you think
about it, it only makes sense that FM behaves the way it does.

The purpose of a master page is to serve as a single-page template,
with placeholders for text and variables, and other content like
watermarks that never change.  Although that content is visible on body
pages, you cannot edit it -- it belongs to the master page, not the body
page.  Since a master page does not have a page number of its own, its
content cannot be included in a TOC or other generated file.

In other words, you've been trying to use master pages for a purpose
they weren't intended for.  Set up your master pages with all the
placeholders you need, but put the actual content on the body pages.

Best regards,

-- 
Stuart Rogers
Technical Communicator
Phoenix Geophysics Limited
Toronto, ON, Canada
+1 (416) 491-7340 x 325

srogers phoenix-geophysics com

"Not later than three days before unexpected shipment, the Buyer informs
the Seller about possibility for receipt of the Goods."

— from a foreign sales contract

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Solved: Trouble with paragraph tags in TOC

2007-08-27 Thread Jon Harvey
For those who may not have been following, the problem was: When
building a TOC, some headings were not appearing in the body of the TOC
even though they we being generated in the TOC reference pages. Couldn't
figure out why.

I resolved the problem when I realized that the missing TOC content was
being generated from tags that I was using only in the document's master
pages. Apparently, unless a heading tag is used in the body pages of a
document, FM ignores it when generating the TOC. For example, I was
using the Chapter.name tag on the master page named "First" but not in
body pages that used this master page. Therefore, Chapter.nameTOC never
showed up in the body of the TOC.

If anyone knows how to get styles that appear only on master pages to
appear in the body of the TOC, I would be interested in hearing about
it..Jon

-Original Message-
From: Stuart Rogers [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, August 24, 2007 5:51 PM
To: Jon Harvey
Cc: Framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Re: Trouble with paragraph tags in TOC

Jon Harvey wrote:
> That's the strange part. The tags are listed in the Setup dialog
> along with the ones that are working correctly.
> 
> BTW, I'm using FM 7.2 on Windows if it makes a difference.
> 

Check to make sure there's only one TOC reference page.  Sometimes a
second one gets created or imported, and you end up going crazy
modifying the one that isn't active.

HTH,


-- 
Stuart Rogers
Technical Communicator
Phoenix Geophysics Limited
Toronto, ON, Canada
+1 (416) 491-7340 x 325

srogers phoenix-geophysics com

"Not later than three days before unexpected shipment, the Buyer informs
the Seller about possibility for receipt of the Goods."

- from a foreign sales contract
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