Table leaves a blank page and jumps to start at top of following page
>> IIRC, TableCaption is the paragraph in which the table anchor is located, right? Yes. >> It has nothing to do with what you see in the Table Designer dialog box. The Orphan Rows setting is a characteristic of the table format. Yes, I assumed that is the case. Thanks, avi On Wed, Feb 11, 2009 at 7:35 PM, Combs, Richard wrote: > Avraham Makeler quoted himself saying: > > > > > Ok, end of mystery. Found the problem: I only just noticed that the > Table > > > Designer also has an Orphan Rows field. The TableCaption style was > set to > > > 99. > > > Thanks again to all. > > IIRC, TableCaption is the paragraph in which the table anchor is > located, right? It has nothing to do with what you see in the Table > Designer dialog box. The Orphan Rows setting is a characteristic of the > table format. Tables are objects in FM, not an integral part of the text > flow like in Word. By default, an FM doc has two table formats, Format A > and Format B. You can redefine those or define new ones. If you have a > table format whose name is the same as your anchor pgf's, that would > explain the confusion -- but that's a bad idea. > > Richard > > > Richard G. Combs > Senior Technical Writer > Polycom, Inc. > richardDOTcombs AT polycomDOTcom > 303-223-5111 > -- > rgcombs AT gmailDOTcom > 303-777-0436 > -- > > > > > > > > >
Table leaves a blank page and jumps to start at top of following page
On Wed, Feb 11, 2009 at 6:59 PM, Avraham Makeler wrote: > Ok, end of mystery. Found the problem: I only just noticed that the Table > Designer also has an Orphan Rows field. The TableCaption style was set to > 99. > Thanks again to all. > > - avi > > > > On Wed, Feb 11, 2009 at 12:37 AM, Combs, Richard < > richard.combs at polycom.com> wrote: > >> Avraham Makeler wrote: >> >> > I have a table where the whole table jumps to start at the page that >> > follows >> > the table's insertion page, so leaving a blank page. So the table's >> anchor >> > point is left at the top of the blank page, and the actual table >> itself >> > starts at the top of the next page. >> > >> > What is going wrong? >> >> Numerous possibilities. Check these: >> >> -- In Table Designer, Basic tab, is Start set to Top of Page (or >> something else causing the same outcome)? >> >> -- In the same place, is Orphan Rows set to a number too high to allow >> the table to break across pages? >> >> -- For each row, select Table > Row Format. Check the row's Start Row >> and Keep With settings. >> >> -- In addition, look for possible interactions of these settings. For >> instance, as others noted, a row can't break across pages. If you row 3 >> is too tall to fit on the first page, but rows 1 and 2 are set to Keep >> With Next, or Orphan Rows is set to 3, then FM has to pull the whole >> thing down a page to conform to the settings. >> >> HTH! >> Richard >> >> >> Richard G. Combs >> Senior Technical Writer >> Polycom, Inc. >> richardDOTcombs AT polycomDOTcom >> 303-223-5111 >> -- >> rgcombs AT gmailDOTcom >> 303-777-0436 >> -- >> >> >> >> >> >> >
Table leaves a blank page and jumps to start at top of following page
Avraham Makeler quoted himself saying: > > > Ok, end of mystery. Found the problem: I only just noticed that the Table > > Designer also has an Orphan Rows field. The TableCaption style was set to > > 99. > > Thanks again to all. IIRC, TableCaption is the paragraph in which the table anchor is located, right? It has nothing to do with what you see in the Table Designer dialog box. The Orphan Rows setting is a characteristic of the table format. Tables are objects in FM, not an integral part of the text flow like in Word. By default, an FM doc has two table formats, Format A and Format B. You can redefine those or define new ones. If you have a table format whose name is the same as your anchor pgf's, that would explain the confusion -- but that's a bad idea. Richard Richard G. Combs Senior Technical Writer Polycom, Inc. richardDOTcombs AT polycomDOTcom 303-223-5111 -- rgcombs AT gmailDOTcom 303-777-0436 --
Table leaves a blank page and jumps to start at top of following page
On Wed, Feb 11, 2009 at 9:52 AM, Avraham Makeler wrote: > >> Is the table defined with too many rows for the page? > Yes, I should have mentioned, the table is just longer than will fit in a > single page. > > (I had already collapsed into bed when I remembered that I had forgotten to > say that; had no energy to switch the PC back on; if PCs would take only a > second to boot it would have been different...) > > I tested what would happen if I make the font small enough to allow the > whole table to fit on the single page, and lo and behold the problem > disappears. > > avi > > > > On Wed, Feb 11, 2009 at 12:21 AM, Deirdre Reagan > wrote: > >> Is the table defined with too many rows for the page? >> >> On 2/10/09, Avraham Makeler wrote: >> > Hi all, >> > >> > I have a table where the whole table jumps to start at the page that >> follows >> > the table's insertion page, so leaving a blank page. So the table's >> anchor >> > point is left at the top of the blank page, and the actual table itself >> > starts at the top of the next page. >> > >> > What is going wrong? >> > >> > Thanks, >> > >> > avi >> > ___ >> > >> > >> > You are currently subscribed to Framers as deirdre.reagan at gmail.com. >> > >> > Send list messages to framers at lists.frameusers.com. >> > >> > To unsubscribe send a blank email to >> > framers-unsubscribe at lists.frameusers.com >> > or visit >> http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/deirdre.reagan%40gmail.com >> > >> > Send administrative questions to listadmin at frameusers.com. Visit >> > http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. >> > >> > >
Re: Table leaves a blank page and jumps to start at top of following page
>> IIRC, TableCaption is the paragraph in which the table anchor is located, right? Yes. >> It has nothing to do with what you see in the Table Designer dialog box. The Orphan Rows setting is a characteristic of the table format. Yes, I assumed that is the case. Thanks, avi On Wed, Feb 11, 2009 at 7:35 PM, Combs, Richard wrote: > Avraham Makeler quoted himself saying: > > > > > Ok, end of mystery. Found the problem: I only just noticed that the > Table > > > Designer also has an Orphan Rows field. The TableCaption style was > set to > > > 99. > > > Thanks again to all. > > IIRC, TableCaption is the paragraph in which the table anchor is > located, right? It has nothing to do with what you see in the Table > Designer dialog box. The Orphan Rows setting is a characteristic of the > table format. Tables are objects in FM, not an integral part of the text > flow like in Word. By default, an FM doc has two table formats, Format A > and Format B. You can redefine those or define new ones. If you have a > table format whose name is the same as your anchor pgf's, that would > explain the confusion -- but that's a bad idea. > > Richard > > > Richard G. Combs > Senior Technical Writer > Polycom, Inc. > richardDOTcombs AT polycomDOTcom > 303-223-5111 > -- > rgcombs AT gmailDOTcom > 303-777-0436 > -- > > > > > > > > > ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Table leaves a blank page and jumps to start at top of following page
Avraham Makeler quoted himself saying: > > > Ok, end of mystery. Found the problem: I only just noticed that the Table > > Designer also has an Orphan Rows field. The TableCaption style was set to > > 99. > > Thanks again to all. IIRC, TableCaption is the paragraph in which the table anchor is located, right? It has nothing to do with what you see in the Table Designer dialog box. The Orphan Rows setting is a characteristic of the table format. Tables are objects in FM, not an integral part of the text flow like in Word. By default, an FM doc has two table formats, Format A and Format B. You can redefine those or define new ones. If you have a table format whose name is the same as your anchor pgf's, that would explain the confusion -- but that's a bad idea. Richard Richard G. Combs Senior Technical Writer Polycom, Inc. richardDOTcombs AT polycomDOTcom 303-223-5111 -- rgcombs AT gmailDOTcom 303-777-0436 -- ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Table leaves a blank page and jumps to start at top of following page
On Wed, Feb 11, 2009 at 6:59 PM, Avraham Makeler wrote: > Ok, end of mystery. Found the problem: I only just noticed that the Table > Designer also has an Orphan Rows field. The TableCaption style was set to > 99. > Thanks again to all. > > - avi > > > > On Wed, Feb 11, 2009 at 12:37 AM, Combs, Richard < > richard.co...@polycom.com> wrote: > >> Avraham Makeler wrote: >> >> > I have a table where the whole table jumps to start at the page that >> > follows >> > the table's insertion page, so leaving a blank page. So the table's >> anchor >> > point is left at the top of the blank page, and the actual table >> itself >> > starts at the top of the next page. >> > >> > What is going wrong? >> >> Numerous possibilities. Check these: >> >> -- In Table Designer, Basic tab, is Start set to Top of Page (or >> something else causing the same outcome)? >> >> -- In the same place, is Orphan Rows set to a number too high to allow >> the table to break across pages? >> >> -- For each row, select Table > Row Format. Check the row's Start Row >> and Keep With settings. >> >> -- In addition, look for possible interactions of these settings. For >> instance, as others noted, a row can't break across pages. If you row 3 >> is too tall to fit on the first page, but rows 1 and 2 are set to Keep >> With Next, or Orphan Rows is set to 3, then FM has to pull the whole >> thing down a page to conform to the settings. >> >> HTH! >> Richard >> >> >> Richard G. Combs >> Senior Technical Writer >> Polycom, Inc. >> richardDOTcombs AT polycomDOTcom >> 303-223-5111 >> -- >> rgcombs AT gmailDOTcom >> 303-777-0436 >> -- >> >> >> >> >> >> > ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Table leaves a blank page and jumps to start at top of following page
Hi all, I have a table where the whole table jumps to start at the page that follows the table's insertion page, so leaving a blank page. So the table's anchor point is left at the top of the blank page, and the actual table itself starts at the top of the next page. What is going wrong? Thanks, avi
Re: Table leaves a blank page and jumps to start at top of following page
On Wed, Feb 11, 2009 at 9:52 AM, Avraham Makeler wrote: > >> Is the table defined with too many rows for the page? > Yes, I should have mentioned, the table is just longer than will fit in a > single page. > > (I had already collapsed into bed when I remembered that I had forgotten to > say that; had no energy to switch the PC back on; if PCs would take only a > second to boot it would have been different...) > > I tested what would happen if I make the font small enough to allow the > whole table to fit on the single page, and lo and behold the problem > disappears. > > avi > > > > On Wed, Feb 11, 2009 at 12:21 AM, Deirdre Reagan > wrote: > >> Is the table defined with too many rows for the page? >> >> On 2/10/09, Avraham Makeler wrote: >> > Hi all, >> > >> > I have a table where the whole table jumps to start at the page that >> follows >> > the table's insertion page, so leaving a blank page. So the table's >> anchor >> > point is left at the top of the blank page, and the actual table itself >> > starts at the top of the next page. >> > >> > What is going wrong? >> > >> > Thanks, >> > >> > avi >> > ___ >> > >> > >> > You are currently subscribed to Framers as deirdre.rea...@gmail.com. >> > >> > Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. >> > >> > To unsubscribe send a blank email to >> > framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com >> > or visit >> http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/deirdre.reagan%40gmail.com >> > >> > Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit >> > http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. >> > >> > > ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Table leaves a blank page and jumps to start at top of following page
This is true of the first row and the second row combine to be more than a page and they are defined as "Keep with nexr". Otherwise, regardless of the number of rows, the first rwo should at least stick to the first page, unless that row itself is bigger than a page. BTW...understand that unlike Word, a row will not split between pages. On Tue, Feb 10, 2009 at 5:21 PM, Deirdre Reagan wrote: > Is the table defined with too many rows for the page? - John Posada Senior Technical Writer NYMetro STC President Looking for the next gig.
Table leaves a blank page and jumps to start at top of following page
How large are the cells that start off the table? If there's lots of content in the cells, and they're configured to Keep With Next... they will. Lots of times, in order to allow page breaks, you need to manually break large cells into multiple smaller ones (and remove rules, so they appear to be one cell). But that allows the table to break more naturally because there are more possible break points. Art Art Campbell art.campbell at gmail.com "... In my opinion, there's nothing in this world beats a '52 Vincent and a redheaded girl." -- Richard Thompson No disclaimers apply. DoD 358 On Tue, Feb 10, 2009 at 5:08 PM, Avraham Makeler wrote: > Hi all, > > I have a table where the whole table jumps to start at the page that follows > the table's insertion page, so leaving a blank page. So the table's anchor > point is left at the top of the blank page, and the actual table itself > starts at the top of the next page. > > What is going wrong? > > Thanks, > > avi > ___ > > > You are currently subscribed to Framers as art.campbell at gmail.com. > > Send list messages to framers at lists.frameusers.com. > > To unsubscribe send a blank email to > framers-unsubscribe at lists.frameusers.com > or visit > http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/art.campbell%40gmail.com > > Send administrative questions to listadmin at frameusers.com. Visit > http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. >
Table leaves a blank page and jumps to start at top of following page
Are the styles applied to the contents of the cell defined as Keep with Next? The problem could be is that they keep keeping. On Tue, Feb 10, 2009 at 5:08 PM, Avraham Makeler wrote: > Hi all, > > I have a table where the whole table jumps to start at the page that follows > the table's insertion page, so leaving a blank page. So the table's anchor > point is left at the top of the blank page, and the actual table itself > starts at the top of the next page. > > What is going wrong? -- John Posada Senior Technical Writer NYMetro STC President Looking for the next gig.
Table leaves a blank page and jumps to start at top of following page
Is the table defined with too many rows for the page? On 2/10/09, Avraham Makeler wrote: > Hi all, > > I have a table where the whole table jumps to start at the page that follows > the table's insertion page, so leaving a blank page. So the table's anchor > point is left at the top of the blank page, and the actual table itself > starts at the top of the next page. > > What is going wrong? > > Thanks, > > avi > ___ > > > You are currently subscribed to Framers as deirdre.reagan at gmail.com. > > Send list messages to framers at lists.frameusers.com. > > To unsubscribe send a blank email to > framers-unsubscribe at lists.frameusers.com > or visit > http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/deirdre.reagan%40gmail.com > > Send administrative questions to listadmin at frameusers.com. Visit > http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. >
Table leaves a blank page and jumps to start at top of following page
Avraham Makeler wrote: > I have a table where the whole table jumps to start at the page that > follows > the table's insertion page, so leaving a blank page. So the table's anchor > point is left at the top of the blank page, and the actual table itself > starts at the top of the next page. > > What is going wrong? Numerous possibilities. Check these: -- In Table Designer, Basic tab, is Start set to Top of Page (or something else causing the same outcome)? -- In the same place, is Orphan Rows set to a number too high to allow the table to break across pages? -- For each row, select Table > Row Format. Check the row's Start Row and Keep With settings. -- In addition, look for possible interactions of these settings. For instance, as others noted, a row can't break across pages. If you row 3 is too tall to fit on the first page, but rows 1 and 2 are set to Keep With Next, or Orphan Rows is set to 3, then FM has to pull the whole thing down a page to conform to the settings. HTH! Richard Richard G. Combs Senior Technical Writer Polycom, Inc. richardDOTcombs AT polycomDOTcom 303-223-5111 -- rgcombs AT gmailDOTcom 303-777-0436 --
RE: Table leaves a blank page and jumps to start at top of following page
Avraham Makeler wrote: > I have a table where the whole table jumps to start at the page that > follows > the table's insertion page, so leaving a blank page. So the table's anchor > point is left at the top of the blank page, and the actual table itself > starts at the top of the next page. > > What is going wrong? Numerous possibilities. Check these: -- In Table Designer, Basic tab, is Start set to Top of Page (or something else causing the same outcome)? -- In the same place, is Orphan Rows set to a number too high to allow the table to break across pages? -- For each row, select Table > Row Format. Check the row's Start Row and Keep With settings. -- In addition, look for possible interactions of these settings. For instance, as others noted, a row can't break across pages. If you row 3 is too tall to fit on the first page, but rows 1 and 2 are set to Keep With Next, or Orphan Rows is set to 3, then FM has to pull the whole thing down a page to conform to the settings. HTH! Richard Richard G. Combs Senior Technical Writer Polycom, Inc. richardDOTcombs AT polycomDOTcom 303-223-5111 -- rgcombs AT gmailDOTcom 303-777-0436 -- ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Table leaves a blank page and jumps to start at top of following page
This is true of the first row and the second row combine to be more than a page and they are defined as "Keep with nexr". Otherwise, regardless of the number of rows, the first rwo should at least stick to the first page, unless that row itself is bigger than a page. BTW...understand that unlike Word, a row will not split between pages. On Tue, Feb 10, 2009 at 5:21 PM, Deirdre Reagan wrote: > Is the table defined with too many rows for the page? - John Posada Senior Technical Writer NYMetro STC President Looking for the next gig. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Table leaves a blank page and jumps to start at top of following page
How large are the cells that start off the table? If there's lots of content in the cells, and they're configured to Keep With Next... they will. Lots of times, in order to allow page breaks, you need to manually break large cells into multiple smaller ones (and remove rules, so they appear to be one cell). But that allows the table to break more naturally because there are more possible break points. Art Art Campbell art.campb...@gmail.com "... In my opinion, there's nothing in this world beats a '52 Vincent and a redheaded girl." -- Richard Thompson No disclaimers apply. DoD 358 On Tue, Feb 10, 2009 at 5:08 PM, Avraham Makeler wrote: > Hi all, > > I have a table where the whole table jumps to start at the page that follows > the table's insertion page, so leaving a blank page. So the table's anchor > point is left at the top of the blank page, and the actual table itself > starts at the top of the next page. > > What is going wrong? > > Thanks, > > avi > ___ > > > You are currently subscribed to Framers as art.campb...@gmail.com. > > Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. > > To unsubscribe send a blank email to > framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com > or visit > http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/art.campbell%40gmail.com > > Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit > http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. > ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Table leaves a blank page and jumps to start at top of following page
Is the table defined with too many rows for the page? On 2/10/09, Avraham Makeler wrote: > Hi all, > > I have a table where the whole table jumps to start at the page that follows > the table's insertion page, so leaving a blank page. So the table's anchor > point is left at the top of the blank page, and the actual table itself > starts at the top of the next page. > > What is going wrong? > > Thanks, > > avi > ___ > > > You are currently subscribed to Framers as deirdre.rea...@gmail.com. > > Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. > > To unsubscribe send a blank email to > framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com > or visit > http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/deirdre.reagan%40gmail.com > > Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit > http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. > ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Table leaves a blank page and jumps to start at top of following page
Are the styles applied to the contents of the cell defined as Keep with Next? The problem could be is that they keep keeping. On Tue, Feb 10, 2009 at 5:08 PM, Avraham Makeler wrote: > Hi all, > > I have a table where the whole table jumps to start at the page that follows > the table's insertion page, so leaving a blank page. So the table's anchor > point is left at the top of the blank page, and the actual table itself > starts at the top of the next page. > > What is going wrong? -- John Posada Senior Technical Writer NYMetro STC President Looking for the next gig. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Table leaves a blank page and jumps to start at top of following page
Hi all, I have a table where the whole table jumps to start at the page that follows the table's insertion page, so leaving a blank page. So the table's anchor point is left at the top of the blank page, and the actual table itself starts at the top of the next page. What is going wrong? Thanks, avi ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
