Table of Contents Question - 2

2005-11-24 Thread rebecca officer
> SID(VECTOR) NON JET RICHMOND.
> 178

I've "solved" some entries like this by putting a few non-breaking spaces at 
the end of the heading (in the main text, not the generated file). In this case 
that would force the word RICHMOND down to the next line in the generated file. 
If you're using dots as a leader it doesn't work so well because your spaces 
show as spaces, not dots, but it's the nearest I've found to a solution.

Cheers, Rebecca

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Table of Contents Question - 2

2005-11-23 Thread Lester C. Smalley
Chris Despopoulos has a great utility "TOCbreaker" that helps solve this 
problem if you're running under Windows.  See 
http://www.telecable.es/personales/cud/cssIndex.htm where you can get more info 
about this (and other tools).

You'll have to make the manual breaks once, but thereafter can easily restore 
those same line breaks after generating a new table of contents..

- Lester
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From: Tweedy, Scott
Sent: Wednesday, November 23, 2005 04:01 PM
To: 'framers at FrameUsers.com'
    Subject: RE: Table of Contents Question - 2


Thanks for the answers.  I think my mind is becoming blurry that I 
can't see the easy answers and think they all have to be much more complex than 
they are.

I have a second issue.

the text I want in the table of contents is left justified and the page 
number is right justified.  I use the Reference Page 
<$elementonly>(tab)<$pagenum>.  When the text is just long enough that it 
"runs into" the page number the page number wraps to the next line instead of 
the text "breaking" and then wrapping.  Here's an example of what I mean:

ILS or ILS/RADAR RWY 26L...177
SID(VECTOR) NON JET RICHMOND.
178
SID(VECTOR) VANCOUVER..179
NOISE ABATEMENT (pg 1)180

Is there a way to detect the conflict and "break" the text for page 178 
so that it reads like this:


ILS or ILS/RADAR RWY 26L...177
SID(VECTOR) NON JET
   RICHMOND178
SID(VECTOR) VANCOUVER..179
NOISE ABATEMENT (pg 1)180

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From: Tweedy, Scott
Sent: November 23, 2005 2:43 PM
To: 'framers at FrameUsers.com'
Subject: Table of Contents Question


I have a table of contents that is dynamically generated from the 
contents of a book (I do this for 12 different books).  At times the length of 
the text in the element I have to use to create the entries in the table of 
contents is too long and it wraps to a second line.

Is there a way to elegantly handle this situation?

What I would like to be able to do is set up a tab so that when the 
text wraps there is a little bit of an indent to show that the new line is 
still part of the original element.

Thanks in advance,
st

Scott Tweedy 
Project Leader - Chef de projet 
Aeronautical and Technical Services - Services A?ronautiques et 
Techniques 
Earth Sciences Sector - Secteur des sciences de la terre 
Natural Resources Canada - Ressources naturelles Canada 
174-615 Booth Street - 174-615 rue Booth 
Ottawa, ON  Canada  K1A 0E9 
tel. (613) 992-4459 - t?l. (613) 992-4459 
fax (613) 943-8959 - t?lc. (613) 943-8959 
Email sctweedy at nrcan.gc.ca - Courriel sctweedy at nrcan.gc.ca
   



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Table of Contents Question - 2

2005-11-23 Thread Art Campbell
I believe you could do that with a FrameScript script that would count
in X number of characters from the start of the line, test to make
sure the cursor was between a space and an alpha, and then insert a
soft return to force the second line. If you don't do FrameScript
yourself, I'd talk to Rick Quatro at frameexpert.com.

Art

On 11/23/05, Tweedy, Scott  wrote:
>
> Thanks for the answers.  I think my mind is becoming blurry that I can't see
> the easy answers and think they all have to be much more complex than they
> are.
>
> I have a second issue.
>
> the text I want in the table of contents is left justified and the page
> number is right justified.  I use the Reference Page
> <$elementonly>(tab)<$pagenum>.  When the text is just
> long enough that it "runs into" the page number the page number wraps to the
> next line instead of the text "breaking" and then wrapping.  Here's an
> example of what I mean:
>
> ILS or ILS/RADAR RWY 26L...177
> SID(VECTOR) NON JET RICHMOND.
> 178
> SID(VECTOR) VANCOUVER..179
> NOISE ABATEMENT (pg 1)180
>
> Is there a way to detect the conflict and "break" the text for page 178 so
> that it reads like this:
>
>
> ILS or ILS/RADAR RWY 26L...177
> SID(VECTOR) NON JET
>RICHMOND178
> SID(VECTOR) VANCOUVER..179
> NOISE ABATEMENT (pg 1)180

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gmail.com
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   and a redheaded girl." -- Richard Thompson
 No disclaimers apply.
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Table of Contents Question - 2

2005-11-23 Thread Tweedy, Scott
Thanks for the answers.  I think my mind is becoming blurry that I can't see
the easy answers and think they all have to be much more complex than they
are.

I have a second issue.

the text I want in the table of contents is left justified and the page
number is right justified.  I use the Reference Page
<$elementonly>(tab)<$pagenum>.  When the text is just long enough that
it "runs into" the page number the page number wraps to the next line
instead of the text "breaking" and then wrapping.  Here's an example of what
I mean:

ILS or ILS/RADAR RWY 26L...177
SID(VECTOR) NON JET RICHMOND.
178
SID(VECTOR) VANCOUVER..179
NOISE ABATEMENT (pg 1)180

Is there a way to detect the conflict and "break" the text for page 178 so
that it reads like this:

ILS or ILS/RADAR RWY 26L...177
SID(VECTOR) NON JET
   RICHMOND178
SID(VECTOR) VANCOUVER..179
NOISE ABATEMENT (pg 1)180


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[mailto:framers-bounces+sctweedy=nrcan.gc.ca at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf
Of Tweedy, Scott
Sent: November 23, 2005 2:43 PM
To: 'framers at FrameUsers.com'
Subject: Table of Contents Question


I have a table of contents that is dynamically generated from the contents
of a book (I do this for 12 different books).  At times the length of the
text in the element I have to use to create the entries in the table of
contents is too long and it wraps to a second line.

Is there a way to elegantly handle this situation?

What I would like to be able to do is set up a tab so that when the text
wraps there is a little bit of an indent to show that the new line is still
part of the original element.

Thanks in advance,
st

Scott Tweedy 
Project Leader - Chef de projet 
Aeronautical and Technical Services - Services A?ronautiques et Techniques 
Earth Sciences Sector - Secteur des sciences de la terre 
Natural Resources Canada - Ressources naturelles Canada 
174-615 Booth Street - 174-615 rue Booth 
Ottawa, ON  Canada  K1A 0E9 
tel. (613) 992-4459 - t?l. (613) 992-4459 
fax (613) 943-8959 - t?lc. (613) 943-8959 
Email sctweedy at nrcan.gc.ca - Courriel sctweedy at nrcan.gc.ca



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Table of Contents Question - 2

2005-11-23 Thread Combs, Richard
Scott Tweedy wrote: 

  When the text is 
> just long enough that it "runs into" the page number the page 
> number wraps to the next line instead of the text "breaking" 
> and then wrapping.  Here's an example of what I mean:
>  
> ILS or ILS/RADAR RWY 26L...177
> SID(VECTOR) NON JET RICHMOND.
> 178
> SID(VECTOR) VANCOUVER..179
> NOISE ABATEMENT (pg 1)180
  

The second tab that Fred told you to add (between <$elementonly> and
<$pagenum> in your ref page TOC spec) will fix 99% of the problems with
long TOC entries that wrap. 

Occasionally, you may encounter an instance where you want the line to
break earlier. You can force a line break by going to the *source
heading* for the TOC entry and changing the spaces *after* where you
want the break into non-breaking spaces. If the entire heading won't fit
onto one TOC row, it will break at the last ordinary space. 

HTH!
Richard 


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RE: Table of Contents Question - 2

2005-11-23 Thread Combs, Richard
Scott Tweedy wrote: 
  
  When the text is 
> just long enough that it "runs into" the page number the page 
> number wraps to the next line instead of the text "breaking" 
> and then wrapping.  Here's an example of what I mean:
>  
> ILS or ILS/RADAR RWY 26L...177
> SID(VECTOR) NON JET RICHMOND.
> 178
> SID(VECTOR) VANCOUVER..179
> NOISE ABATEMENT (pg 1)180
  

The second tab that Fred told you to add (between <$elementonly> and
<$pagenum> in your ref page TOC spec) will fix 99% of the problems with
long TOC entries that wrap. 

Occasionally, you may encounter an instance where you want the line to
break earlier. You can force a line break by going to the *source
heading* for the TOC entry and changing the spaces *after* where you
want the break into non-breaking spaces. If the entire heading won't fit
onto one TOC row, it will break at the last ordinary space. 

HTH!
Richard 


--
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Senior Technical Writer
Polycom, Inc.
richardDOTcombs AT polycomDOTcom
303-223-5111
--
rgcombs AT gmailDOTcom
303-777-0436
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Re: Table of Contents Question - 2

2005-11-23 Thread rebecca officer
> SID(VECTOR) NON JET RICHMOND.
> 178

I've "solved" some entries like this by putting a few non-breaking spaces at 
the end of the heading (in the main text, not the generated file). In this case 
that would force the word RICHMOND down to the next line in the generated file. 
If you're using dots as a leader it doesn't work so well because your spaces 
show as spaces, not dots, but it's the nearest I've found to a solution.

Cheers, Rebecca

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RE: Table of Contents Question - 2

2005-11-23 Thread Lester C. Smalley



Chris Despopoulos has a great utility "TOCbreaker" that helps solve this 
problem if you're running under Windows.  See http://www.telecable.es/personales/cud/cssIndex.htm where 
you can get more info about this (and other tools).
 
You'll have to make the manual breaks once, but thereafter can easily 
restore those same line breaks after generating a new table of 
contents..
 
– Lester



  
  
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  Smalley
Email:  
lsmalley AT infocon 
  DOT com
  
  Information Consultants, 
  Inc.
Phone:  
302–239–2942   FAX: 
  302–239–1712
  
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  From: Tweedy, ScottSent: Wednesday, 
  November 23, 2005 04:01 PMTo: 
  'framers@FrameUsers.com'Subject: RE: Table of Contents Question - 
  2
  
  Thanks for the answers.  I think my mind is becoming 
  blurry that I can't see the easy answers and think they all have to be much 
  more complex than they are.
   
  I have a second issue.
   
  the text I want in the table of contents is left 
  justified and the page number is right justified.  I use the Reference 
  Page <$elementonly>(tab)<$pagenum>.  When the text is 
  just long enough that it "runs into" the page number the page number wraps to 
  the next line instead of the text "breaking" and then wrapping.  Here's 
  an example of what I mean:
   
  ILS or ILS/RADAR RWY 26L...177
  SID(VECTOR) NON JET RICHMOND.
  178
  SID(VECTOR) VANCOUVER..179
  NOISE ABATEMENT (pg 1)180
   
  Is there a way to detect the conflict and "break" the 
  text for page 178 so that it reads like this:
   
  
  ILS or ILS/RADAR RWY 26L...177
  SID(VECTOR) NON JET
     
  RICHMOND178
  SID(VECTOR) VANCOUVER..179
  NOISE ABATEMENT (pg 1)180
   
  
  
  
  From: Tweedy, 
  ScottSent: November 23, 2005 2:43 PMTo: 
  'framers@FrameUsers.com'Subject: Table of Contents 
  Question
  
  I have a table of 
  contents that is dynamically generated from the contents of a book (I do this 
  for 12 different books).  At times the length of the text in the element 
  I have to use to create the entries in the table of contents is too long and 
  it wraps to a second line.
   
  Is there a way to 
  elegantly handle this situation?
   
  What I would like 
  to be able to do is set up a tab so that when the text wraps there is a little 
  bit of an indent to show that the new line is still part of the original 
  element.
   
  Thanks in 
  advance,
  st
  Scott 
  Tweedy 
  Project 
  Leader - Chef de projet Aeronautical and Technical 
  Services - Services Aéronautiques et Techniques Earth Sciences 
  Sector - Secteur des sciences de la terre Natural Resources 
  Canada - Ressources naturelles Canada 174-615 Booth Street - 174-615 rue 
  Booth Ottawa, ON  Canada  K1A 0E9 
  tel. 
  (613) 992-4459 - tél. (613) 992-4459 fax (613) 943-8959 - télc. (613) 
  943-8959 Email [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Courriel 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]   
  
   
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Re: Table of Contents Question - 2

2005-11-23 Thread Art Campbell
I believe you could do that with a FrameScript script that would count
in X number of characters from the start of the line, test to make
sure the cursor was between a space and an alpha, and then insert a
soft return to force the second line. If you don't do FrameScript
yourself, I'd talk to Rick Quatro at frameexpert.com.

Art

On 11/23/05, Tweedy, Scott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Thanks for the answers.  I think my mind is becoming blurry that I can't see
> the easy answers and think they all have to be much more complex than they
> are.
>
> I have a second issue.
>
> the text I want in the table of contents is left justified and the page
> number is right justified.  I use the Reference Page
> <$elementonly>(tab)<$pagenum>.  When the text is just
> long enough that it "runs into" the page number the page number wraps to the
> next line instead of the text "breaking" and then wrapping.  Here's an
> example of what I mean:
>
> ILS or ILS/RADAR RWY 26L...177
> SID(VECTOR) NON JET RICHMOND.
> 178
> SID(VECTOR) VANCOUVER..179
> NOISE ABATEMENT (pg 1)180
>
> Is there a way to detect the conflict and "break" the text for page 178 so
> that it reads like this:
>
>
> ILS or ILS/RADAR RWY 26L...177
> SID(VECTOR) NON JET
>RICHMOND178
> SID(VECTOR) VANCOUVER..179
> NOISE ABATEMENT (pg 1)180

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RE: Table of Contents Question - 2

2005-11-23 Thread Tweedy, Scott



Thanks for the answers.  I think my mind is becoming 
blurry that I can't see the easy answers and think they all have to be much more 
complex than they are.
 
I have a second issue.
 
the text I want in the table of contents is left justified 
and the page number is right justified.  I use the Reference Page 
<$elementonly>(tab)<$pagenum>.  When the text is just long 
enough that it "runs into" the page number the page number wraps to the next 
line instead of the text "breaking" and then wrapping.  Here's an example 
of what I mean:
 
ILS or ILS/RADAR RWY 26L...177
SID(VECTOR) NON JET RICHMOND.
178
SID(VECTOR) VANCOUVER..179
NOISE ABATEMENT (pg 1)180
 
Is there a way to detect the conflict and "break" the text 
for page 178 so that it reads like this:
 

ILS or ILS/RADAR RWY 26L...177
SID(VECTOR) NON JET
   
RICHMOND178
SID(VECTOR) VANCOUVER..179
NOISE ABATEMENT (pg 1)180
 
 



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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf 
Of Tweedy, ScottSent: November 23, 2005 2:43 PMTo: 
'framers@FrameUsers.com'Subject: Table of Contents 
Question

I have a table of 
contents that is dynamically generated from the contents of a book (I do this 
for 12 different books).  At times the length of the text in the element I 
have to use to create the entries in the table of contents is too long and it 
wraps to a second line.
 
Is there a way to 
elegantly handle this situation?
 
What I would like to 
be able to do is set up a tab so that when the text wraps there is a little bit 
of an indent to show that the new line is still part of the original 
element.
 
Thanks in 
advance,
st
Scott 
Tweedy Project Leader - 
Chef de projet Aeronautical and Technical Services - Services 
Aéronautiques et Techniques Earth Sciences Sector - Secteur des 
sciences de la terre Natural Resources Canada - 
Ressources naturelles Canada 174-615 Booth Street - 174-615 rue 
Booth Ottawa, ON  Canada  K1A 0E9 
tel. 
(613) 992-4459 - tél. (613) 992-4459 fax (613) 943-8959 - télc. (613) 
943-8959 Email [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Courriel 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]   

 
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