RE: Text Flow and Figure Numbering Issue
Harry, Thanks for the information, but perhaps there's some confusion. I'm not using Word for any of this. It's all staying in Frame. The information section I'm having a problem with is from another Frame document that someone else wrote and I need to include in my document. Everything worked fine except for the figure numbers for two figures that are contained in the same anchored frame. The figure captions are included in text boxes inside the larger anchored frame and the figures themselves are in anchored frames inside the larger anchored frame. The figure captions have no flow indicators assigned to them, unlike all the other figure captions in the document, which is why they're out of order with the rest of them, I believe. I could simply redo those figures and their captions, separating them out from the larger anchored frame, and I may yet have to do just that. However, I'm trying to keep the look the same as much as I can, which is why I asked for some help in figuring out how to assign the flow and make them join the rest of the document. However, I'm not having any luck on getting answers. Unless it's ME that's misunderstanding YOU! Always a distinct possibility! Thanks for the help! Samuel I. Beard, Jr. Technical Writer OI Analytical 979 690-1711 Ext. 222 [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, June 08, 2007 7:05 PM To: Sam Beard; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Text Flow and Figure Numbering Issue In my experience with Word (since 2.0 or so (1985/86) I have not had good success using frames. However, they work for some. I would suggest the following. Take the original information you have in FM. Save the information in a Word document. Capture the text. Put it in the 'word' document. Do what you need to do so that the format in your word document has is 'the same as' the FM image Copy this information from the 'word' document Paste it into the 'new' word document wheere you want it. Set up your captions Yo9u should see a 'good' segment in your document. HTH, Harry. See what's free at AOL.com http://www.aol.com?ncid=AOLAOF0002000503 . ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Text Flow and Figure Numbering Issue
If the App Note is an active document, why not just import it instead of copying it into your chapter. You'd have the option of using the Chapter's settings, which I surmise would solve the numbering problem... Unless, of course, the author of the App Note did something exciting like numbering things manually. Art On 6/6/07, Sam Beard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello All, Please forgive the cross-posting, but I thought it best to post to both lists to get the answer. I'm using Frame 7.2 on Windows XP. I'm working on a chapter to a user's manual. In this chapter, I copied and pasted in another document that serves as a technical note, basically, when on its own. In my chapter, I'm adding it in to a maintenance chapter. This document has one anchored frame in it that has two graphics side by side, with figure title paragraphs below them. The problem is that they're not in the same flow as the rest of the document and, hence, the numbering is being thrown off. They're listed as numbers 7.8 and 7.9, with the appropriate cross-references to them in the text. However, they SHOULD be numbered 7.13 and 7.14. I tried to connect the text flows so the numbering would get corrected, but Frame won't let me do that, probably because they are in text boxes inside an anchored frame. So, how do I either connect them to the text flow of the rest of the document or, at the least, change the numbers so they match up with the rest of the document and don't throw off my numbering? Thanks much in advance for the help! Samuel I. Beard, Jr. Technical Writer OI Analytical 979 690-1711 Ext. 222 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Art Campbell [EMAIL PROTECTED] ... In my opinion, there's nothing in this world beats a '52 Vincent and a redheaded girl. -- Richard Thompson No disclaimers apply. DoD 358 ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Text Flow and Figure Numbering Issue
Harry, Thanks for the information, but perhaps there's some confusion. I'm not using Word for any of this. It's all staying in Frame. The information section I'm having a problem with is from another Frame document that someone else wrote and I need to include in my document. Everything worked fine except for the figure numbers for two figures that are contained in the same anchored frame. The figure captions are included in text boxes inside the larger anchored frame and the figures themselves are in anchored frames inside the larger anchored frame. The figure captions have no flow indicators assigned to them, unlike all the other figure captions in the document, which is why they're out of order with the rest of them, I believe. I could simply redo those figures and their captions, separating them out from the larger anchored frame, and I may yet have to do just that. However, I'm trying to keep the look the same as much as I can, which is why I asked for some help in figuring out how to assign the flow and make them join the rest of the document. However, I'm not having any luck on getting answers. Unless it's ME that's misunderstanding YOU! Always a distinct possibility! Thanks for the help! Samuel I. Beard, Jr. Technical Writer OI Analytical 979 690-1711 Ext. 222 sbeard at oico.com From: HBacheler at aol.com [mailto:hbache...@aol.com] Sent: Friday, June 08, 2007 7:05 PM To: Sam Beard; framers at frameusers.com Cc: techwr-l at lists.techwr-l.com Subject: Re: Text Flow and Figure Numbering Issue In my experience with Word (since 2.0 or so (1985/86) I have not had good success using frames. However, they work for some. I would suggest the following. Take the original information you have in FM. Save the information in a Word document. Capture the text. Put it in the 'word' document. Do what you need to do so that the format in your word document has is 'the same as' the FM "image" Copy this information from the 'word' document Paste it into the 'new' word document wheere you want it. Set up your captions Yo9u should see a 'good' segment in your document. HTH, Harry. See what's free at AOL.com <http://www.aol.com?ncid=AOLAOF0002000503> .
Text Flow and Figure Numbering Issue
If the App Note is an active document, why not just import it instead of copying it into your chapter. You'd have the option of using the Chapter's settings, which I surmise would solve the numbering problem... Unless, of course, the author of the App Note did something exciting like numbering things manually. Art On 6/6/07, Sam Beard wrote: > Hello All, > > > >Please forgive the cross-posting, but I thought it best to post to > both lists to get the answer. I'm using Frame 7.2 on Windows XP. > > > >I'm working on a chapter to a user's manual. In this chapter, I > copied and pasted in another document that serves as a technical note, > basically, when on its own. In my chapter, I'm adding it in to a > maintenance chapter. This document has one anchored frame in it that has > two graphics side by side, with figure title paragraphs below them. The > problem is that they're not in the same flow as the rest of the document > and, hence, the numbering is being thrown off. They're listed as numbers > 7.8 and 7.9, with the appropriate cross-references to them in the text. > However, they SHOULD be numbered 7.13 and 7.14. I tried to connect the > text flows so the numbering would get corrected, but Frame won't let me > do that, probably because they are in text boxes inside an anchored > frame. So, how do I either connect them to the text flow of the rest of > the document or, at the least, change the numbers so they match up with > the rest of the document and don't throw off my numbering? > > > >Thanks much in advance for the help! > > > > Samuel I. Beard, Jr. > > Technical Writer > > OI Analytical > > 979 690-1711 Ext. 222 > > sbeard at oico.com -- Art Campbell art.campbell at gmail.com "... In my opinion, there's nothing in this world beats a '52 Vincent and a redheaded girl." -- Richard Thompson No disclaimers apply. DoD 358
Text Flow and Figure Numbering Issue
Sam Beard wrote: > Everything worked fine except for the figure numbers for two > figures that are contained in the same anchored frame. The > figure captions are included in text boxes inside the larger > anchored frame and the figures themselves are in anchored > frames inside the larger anchored frame. Umm, that can't be right. You can't put an anchored frame inside another anchored frame, only inside a text frame (the anchor is an object in a text flow). Probably, the figures are in graphic frames inside the anchored frame. Possibly, they're in anchored frames inside the text frames containing the figure captions (bad idea). In any case, this sounds awfully complicated. If you must have the figures side-by-side, each with its own figure captions, use a 2-column table. That way, your figure captions can be part of the main flow of the doc, which should solve your numbering problem. > The figure captions > have no flow indicators assigned to them, unlike all the > other figure captions in the document, which is why they're > out of order with the rest of them, I believe. OK, I'm not sure what you mean by this. Are you referring to the _flow property_ of the _text frames_ that contain the figure captions? Looking back at an earlier post, I see that you seemed to want to make those text frames part of the main text flow. You can't do that (they're objects within the flow). Or are you referring to the figure caption paragraphs' autonumbering sequence (usually a letter followed by a colon)? If that's the case, yeah, you'll have to make them part of the same numbering sequence as the other figure captions if you want them to be part of the same numbering stream. Or maybe there's some third thing going on here that I'm not getting? Richard -- Richard G. Combs Senior Technical Writer Polycom, Inc. richardDOTcombs AT polycomDOTcom 303-223-5111 -- rgcombs AT gmailDOTcom 303-777-0436 --
Text Flow and Figure Numbering Issue
Hello All, Please forgive the cross-posting, but I thought it best to post to both lists to get the answer. I'm using Frame 7.2 on Windows XP. I'm working on a chapter to a user's manual. In this chapter, I copied and pasted in another document that serves as a technical note, basically, when on its own. In my chapter, I'm adding it in to a maintenance chapter. This document has one anchored frame in it that has two graphics side by side, with figure title paragraphs below them. The problem is that they're not in the same flow as the rest of the document and, hence, the numbering is being thrown off. They're listed as numbers 7.8 and 7.9, with the appropriate cross-references to them in the text. However, they SHOULD be numbered 7.13 and 7.14. I tried to connect the text flows so the numbering would get corrected, but Frame won't let me do that, probably because they are in text boxes inside an anchored frame. So, how do I either connect them to the text flow of the rest of the document or, at the least, change the numbers so they match up with the rest of the document and don't throw off my numbering? Thanks much in advance for the help! Samuel I. Beard, Jr. Technical Writer OI Analytical 979 690-1711 Ext. 222 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Text Flow and Figure Numbering Issue
Hello All, More info: The information I'm inserting into this chapter from the technical note was written by someone else. I'd like to try and keep the information as visually similar as possible to avoid any confusion among those that might see both. However, the only thing I can think of doing to resolve this issue is to re-insert the images again, as two separate anchored frames instead of inside a single frame. Is there another option to keep it visually similar? Thanks much in advance! Samuel I. Beard, Jr. Technical Writer OI Analytical 979 690-1711 Ext. 222 sbeard at oico.com -Original Message- From: techwr-l-bounces+sbeard=oico@lists.techwr-l.com [mailto:techwr-l-bounces+sbeard=oico.com at lists.techwr-l.com] On Behalf Of Sam Beard Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2007 3:52 PM To: Framers E-mail List Cc: techwr-l at lists.techwr-l.com Subject: Text Flow and Figure Numbering Issue Hello All, Please forgive the cross-posting, but I thought it best to post to both lists to get the answer. I'm using Frame 7.2 on Windows XP. I'm working on a chapter to a user's manual. In this chapter, I copied and pasted in another document that serves as a technical note, basically, when on its own. In my chapter, I'm adding it in to a maintenance chapter. This document has one anchored frame in it that has two graphics side by side, with figure title paragraphs below them. The problem is that they're not in the same flow as the rest of the document and, hence, the numbering is being thrown off. They're listed as numbers 7.8 and 7.9, with the appropriate cross-references to them in the text. However, they SHOULD be numbered 7.13 and 7.14. I tried to connect the text flows so the numbering would get corrected, but Frame won't let me do that, probably because they are in text boxes inside an anchored frame. So, how do I either connect them to the text flow of the rest of the document or, at the least, change the numbers so they match up with the rest of the document and don't throw off my numbering? Thanks much in advance for the help! Samuel I. Beard, Jr. Technical Writer OI Analytical 979 690-1711 Ext. 222 sbeard at oico.com ^ Create HTML or Microsoft Word content and convert to Help file formats or printed documentation. Features include support for Windows Vista & 2007 Microsoft Office, team authoring, plus more. http://www.DocToHelp.com/TechwrlList True single source, conditional content, PDF export, modular help. Help & Manual is the most powerful authoring tool for technical documentation. Boost your productivity! http://www.helpandmanual.com --- You are currently subscribed to TECHWR-L as sbeard at oico.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to techwr-l-unsubscribe at lists.techwr-l.com or visit http://lists.techwr-l.com/mailman/options/techwr-l/sbeard%40oico.com To subscribe, send a blank email to techwr-l-join at lists.techwr-l.com Send administrative questions to admin at techwr-l.com. Visit http://www.techwr-l.com/ for more resources and info.
Text Flow and Figure Numbering Issue
Hello All, Please forgive the cross-posting, but I thought it best to post to both lists to get the answer. I'm using Frame 7.2 on Windows XP. I'm working on a chapter to a user's manual. In this chapter, I copied and pasted in another document that serves as a technical note, basically, when on its own. In my chapter, I'm adding it in to a maintenance chapter. This document has one anchored frame in it that has two graphics side by side, with figure title paragraphs below them. The problem is that they're not in the same flow as the rest of the document and, hence, the numbering is being thrown off. They're listed as numbers 7.8 and 7.9, with the appropriate cross-references to them in the text. However, they SHOULD be numbered 7.13 and 7.14. I tried to connect the text flows so the numbering would get corrected, but Frame won't let me do that, probably because they are in text boxes inside an anchored frame. So, how do I either connect them to the text flow of the rest of the document or, at the least, change the numbers so they match up with the rest of the document and don't throw off my numbering? Thanks much in advance for the help! Samuel I. Beard, Jr. Technical Writer OI Analytical 979 690-1711 Ext. 222 sbeard at oico.com
