hyperlinks to files, to directories (also, reference work on hyperlinks in FM)

2009-03-25 Thread Simon BUCH
Dear Tom,

I used to work at Adobe [twice!] and the there's still quite a
historical legacy from the good ol' days of "FrameViewer", and when
FrameMaker was available on Macintosh, NeXT, SunOS, IBM AIX and more.
The "Hypertext" system is one of those legacies, and it probably
outdates the internet "hypertext" system.

As a result most [if not all] of the "Open document" functionality
should refer to FrameMaker documents, which if you print to PDF,
FrameMaker and the Adobe PDF printer [set as the Windows default
printer!] will automagically transform any markers such as:
openlink document2.fm
... to get Acrobat to make a link to open "document2.pdf"



Answering your questions in turn:
#1 - Goto URL usage
This is a strange "hypertext" command.  If you print your document to
PDF, Acrobat will have a link to 'address' the operating system to open
the specified URL.   URLs start with typically http:// or file:// and
the address part always uses forward slashes.


#2 - forward or backward slash
Always use forward slashes in pathnames for FrameMaker document linking.
It does work!
I advise against using backslashes ... as FrameMaker uses the backslash
to specify special characters, such as tab \t - but also, if you edit a
marker, you will ALWAYS have to keep doubling the number of backslashes
in the UNC [Uniform Naming Convention] pathname, as FrameMaker will keep
interpreting them.


#3 - See #2


#4 - The history of FrameMaker also means that there's some quirky
features or methods involved.  In the days when Frame Technologies [and
later Adobe] ported FrameMaker to multiple platforms, they standardised
on paths to be Unix style - even for Windows and Macintosh, for example
openlink /working-folder/examples/document2.fm
... to get Acrobat to make a link to open
"/working-folder/examples/document2.pdf"


#5 - FrameMaker's hypertext support
There's a PDF document on the MicroType web site that gives a good
overview:
http://www.microtype.com/resources/FMhypertext.pdf




RE: hyperlinks to files, to directories (also, reference work on hyperlinks in FM)

2009-03-25 Thread Simon BUCH
Dear Tom,

I used to work at Adobe [twice!] and the there's still quite a
historical legacy from the good ol' days of "FrameViewer", and when
FrameMaker was available on Macintosh, NeXT, SunOS, IBM AIX and more.
The "Hypertext" system is one of those legacies, and it probably
outdates the internet "hypertext" system.

As a result most [if not all] of the "Open document" functionality
should refer to FrameMaker documents, which if you print to PDF,
FrameMaker and the Adobe PDF printer [set as the Windows default
printer!] will automagically transform any markers such as:
openlink document2.fm
... to get Acrobat to make a link to open "document2.pdf"



Answering your questions in turn:
#1 - Goto URL usage
This is a strange "hypertext" command.  If you print your document to
PDF, Acrobat will have a link to 'address' the operating system to open
the specified URL.   URLs start with typically http:// or file:// and
the address part always uses forward slashes.


#2 - forward or backward slash
Always use forward slashes in pathnames for FrameMaker document linking.
It does work!
I advise against using backslashes ... as FrameMaker uses the backslash
to specify special characters, such as tab \t - but also, if you edit a
marker, you will ALWAYS have to keep doubling the number of backslashes
in the UNC [Uniform Naming Convention] pathname, as FrameMaker will keep
interpreting them.


#3 - See #2


#4 - The history of FrameMaker also means that there's some quirky
features or methods involved.  In the days when Frame Technologies [and
later Adobe] ported FrameMaker to multiple platforms, they standardised
on paths to be Unix style - even for Windows and Macintosh, for example
openlink /working-folder/examples/document2.fm
... to get Acrobat to make a link to open
"/working-folder/examples/document2.pdf"


#5 - FrameMaker's hypertext support
There's a PDF document on the MicroType web site that gives a good
overview:
http://www.microtype.com/resources/FMhypertext.pdf


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hyperlinks to files, to directories (also, reference work on hyperlinks in FM)

2009-03-24 Thread tom.k...@kodak.com
Hello,

I've looked through many postings related to hyperlinks, without luck. I 
have a couple questions related to inserting hyperlinks to open a 
directory and to open a PDF file.

My system: 
FrameMaker 8.0p277
Windows XP, SP2

1. I don't well follow the FrameMaker help information on which hypertext 
command to use for opening a PDF or a Windows Explorer directory. I've 
tried two:
Go to URL (message URL \\shared\techpubs2\Graphics\Conversion) -- works 
well for most directories, but not all--see 3.
Open document (openlink [many variations on the network location]) -- 
doesn't work, apparently

2. The use of forward slash and backslash has a bearing, I know. But I 
don't observe a consistent response to one or the other. I guess that it's 
also related to the hypertext command I use, or the one I should use. The 
\ works well for most of the Go to URL uses. 

3. One use of Go to URL includes parameters that are changed to another 
value when I select Edit Hypertext Marker. 
Original:
message URL \\shared\techpubs2\processes\graphic_naming
Changed to:
message URL \\shared\techpubs2\processes?raphic_naming

4. I have yet to find the right command and parameter set for opening a 
PDF at a known location.

5. The FrameMaker help is woefully inadequate. I infer that FM supports 
only a small portion of the possible hypertext command set. (Correct?) I 
infer that the translation from FrameMaker to PDF also limits the 
functionality of hypertext. (Correct?) But does anyone have a better 
resource for understanding what hypertext is available and how it can be 
exploited?

Thanks,
Tom

Thomas G (Tom) Kohn | Technical Editor | GCG WW Versamark Engineering 
Services | 
Eastman Kodak Company | 3000 Research Blvd | Dayton, OH 45420-4003 | 
tom.kohn at kodak.com | +01 937-259-3210 Office | +01 937-271-1484 Mobile | 
+01 937-259-3784 Fax | 
www.graphics.kodak.com 


hyperlinks to files, to directories (also, reference work on hyperlinks in FM)

2009-03-24 Thread tom . kohn
Hello,

I've looked through many postings related to hyperlinks, without luck. I 
have a couple questions related to inserting hyperlinks to open a 
directory and to open a PDF file.

My system: 
FrameMaker 8.0p277
Windows XP, SP2

1. I don't well follow the FrameMaker help information on which hypertext 
command to use for opening a PDF or a Windows Explorer directory. I've 
tried two:
Go to URL (message URL \\shared\techpubs2\Graphics\Conversion) -- works 
well for most directories, but not all--see 3.
Open document (openlink [many variations on the network location]) -- 
doesn't work, apparently

2. The use of forward slash and backslash has a bearing, I know. But I 
don't observe a consistent response to one or the other. I guess that it's 
also related to the hypertext command I use, or the one I should use. The 
\ works well for most of the Go to URL uses. 

3. One use of Go to URL includes parameters that are changed to another 
value when I select Edit Hypertext Marker. 
Original:
message URL \\shared\techpubs2\processes\graphic_naming
Changed to:
message URL \\shared\techpubs2\processes„raphic_naming

4. I have yet to find the right command and parameter set for opening a 
PDF at a known location.

5. The FrameMaker help is woefully inadequate. I infer that FM supports 
only a small portion of the possible hypertext command set. (Correct?) I 
infer that the translation from FrameMaker to PDF also limits the 
functionality of hypertext. (Correct?) But does anyone have a better 
resource for understanding what hypertext is available and how it can be 
exploited?

Thanks,
Tom

Thomas G (Tom) Kohn | Technical Editor | GCG WW Versamark Engineering 
Services | 
Eastman Kodak Company | 3000 Research Blvd | Dayton, OH 45420-4003 | 
tom.k...@kodak.com | +01 937-259-3210 Office | +01 937-271-1484 Mobile | 
+01 937-259-3784 Fax | 
www.graphics.kodak.com 
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