[Framework-Team] hard dependency on PIL?

2006-09-12 Thread Raphael Ritz
Hi Hanno and framework team members, just a quick question in passing: looking at plip 148 (move to CMF 2.1) I noticed that Plone has a hard dependency on PIL there at the moment. Moving 'scale_image' into CMFPlone/utils.py resulted in an unconditioned from PIL import Image which of course

[Framework-Team] Re: first comments on plip 148 (moving to CMF 2.1)

2006-09-12 Thread Hanno Schlichting
Hello from the St. Augustin sprint :) Raphael Ritz wrote: Hello again, this is just a service to those of you who do not follow the svn/plone commits ;-) 2006-09-12 Raphael Ritz ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) My test set-up: Python 2.4.3, Zope 2.10.0b2 release on Linux (FC5) First

Re: [Framework-Team] Re: hard dependency on PIL?

2006-09-12 Thread Helge Tesdal
On 3:12 pm 09/12/06 Martin Aspeli [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think a dependency is probably OK, even though it would annoy me to have to do it for all development instances. The swinger for me is the recent security problems that we've had to use PIL to get around. Is it possible to disable

Re: [Framework-Team] Re: hard dependency on PIL?

2006-09-12 Thread Wichert Akkerman
Previously Alec Mitchell wrote: It's not possible to start Plone if PIL is not installed currently (due to the member image fix). PIL is included in all the installers AFAIK, and is a package in every distro I've known. So installing PIL is generally as easy as installing python (whether you

[Framework-Team] Re: first comments on plip 148 (moving to CMF 2.1)

2006-09-12 Thread Martin Aspeli
Raphael Ritz wrote: What would be really nice to have for our add-on developers: - a hands-on, fool-proof guide on how to update 3rd-party products for Plone 3.0. In particular this should contain (pointers to) instructions on supporting and using GenericSetup I don't think we

[Framework-Team] Re: first comments on plip 148 (moving to CMF 2.1)

2006-09-12 Thread Hanno Schlichting
Martin Aspeli wrote: Raphael Ritz wrote: What would be really nice to have for our add-on developers: - a hands-on, fool-proof guide on how to update 3rd-party products for Plone 3.0. In particular this should contain (pointers to) instructions on supporting and using

[Framework-Team] Re: first comments on plip 148 (moving to CMF 2.1)

2006-09-12 Thread Hanno Schlichting
Alec Mitchell wrote: On 9/12/06, Raphael Ritz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hanno Schlichting schrieb: What would be really nice to have for our add-on developers: - a hands-on, fool-proof guide on how to update 3rd-party products for Plone 3.0. In particular this should contain

[Framework-Team] Re: first comments on plip 148 (moving to CMF 2.1)

2006-09-12 Thread Martin Aspeli
Hanno Schlichting wrote: - It doesn't show up in the control panel's Add/Remove Products pages - There not really a sane way to uninstall a GS extension profile Now this statements isn't completely true for some minutes anymore. People watching the collective-checkins mailing list closely

[Framework-Team] PLIP 48 review notes

2006-09-12 Thread Wichert Akkerman
Changes from stock Plone This bundle features two modifications from standard Plone: * adds the new SessionCrumbler product from collective * Uses a modified PlonePAS PlonePAS modifications -- The PlonePAS modifications are restricted to

[Framework-Team] Re: r10902 - review/plip48-bundle

2006-09-12 Thread Alexander Limi
On Tue, 12 Sep 2006 13:15:08 -0700, wichert svn-changes-z4DKO/[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: +Using sessions means that ZEO clusters will not work out of the box: the +session storage is not shared between ZEO clients. This needs to be explicitly +documented in release notes. Not only

[Framework-Team] Re: first comments on plip 148 (moving to CMF 2.1)

2006-09-12 Thread Alexander Limi
On Tue, 12 Sep 2006 10:53:46 -0700, Hanno Schlichting [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Of course this is not a good long term approach as it still has the QI problems, but I think this is a good option for the time we need to build proper uninstall into GenericSetup (or based on it). Has anyone

[Framework-Team] Re: Re: PLIP 48 review notes

2006-09-12 Thread Alexander Limi
On Tue, 12 Sep 2006 16:34:33 -0700, Alec Mitchell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We need to make sure that it can be easily disabled in case the performance overhead of using Sessions is too much for some applications. Does anyone have any idea what approach people like Google (Gmail etc) use

Re: [Framework-Team] Re: r10902 - review/plip48-bundle

2006-09-12 Thread Sidnei da Silva
On Tue, Sep 12, 2006 at 08:19:21PM -0700, Alexander Limi wrote: | On Tue, 12 Sep 2006 13:15:08 -0700, wichert | svn-changes-z4DKO/[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: | | +Using sessions means that ZEO clusters will not work out of the box: the | +session storage is not shared between ZEO clients. This

[Framework-Team] Re: Re: PLIP 48 review notes

2006-09-12 Thread Alec Mitchell
On 9/12/06, Alexander Limi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 12 Sep 2006 16:34:33 -0700, Alec Mitchell apm13-WLbs8XpHrcb2fBVCVOL8/[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We need to make sure that it can be easily disabled in case the performance overhead of using Sessions is too much for some