[Framework-Team] Re: tomorrow's PLIP review deadline
I have been reviewing last night but only posted my review in the review notes inside the plip. I was under the assumption that that was sufficient, sorry for that but I did review them. I'm now working on my last one #212. And to be honest, I didn't know that I had to vote for plips I didn't review myself. Does that make any sense? I fully acqknowledge the reviewers ability to make a good judgement for the plips. Danny On 19 feb 2008, at 02:36, Andreas Zeidler wrote: On Feb 18, 2008, at 12:50 AM, Andreas Zeidler wrote: oops, i only realized raphael had already looked at 212 in the middle of writing down that list. so actually it should have read #187 and #215 need to be reviewed for a second time, and #202 and #212 should probably also see another round of click-tests. afaik, neither tom nor danny have posted notes about their reviews of the above mentioned PLIPs. this does not only mean we've now missed the second deadline as well (even with the two extra days), but also prevents the team members from casting their votes on these PLIPs. imho, this really sucks! :( on top of this, i haven't seen any votes from danny and raphael (except on the PLIPs they've reviewed themselves), so i cannot send any recommendations to wichert, either. i'm effectively booked with fixed appointments for the rest of this week, so i won't be able to adjust my schedule again to accomodate these delays. one of you has to take over the job of going through the PLIP tickets (to check which still need attention), counting votes and passing on the team's recommendations to the release manager. i'll leave it up to you to decide who will have to do this, but perhaps it would make sense for wichert to nominate someone to avoid losing even more time... :( cheers, andi -- zeidler it consulting - http://zitc.de/ - [EMAIL PROTECTED] friedelstraße 31 - 12047 berlin - telefon +49 30 25563779 pgp key at http://zitc.de/pgp - http://wwwkeys.de.pgp.net/ plone 3.0.6 released! -- http://plone.org/products/plone ___ Framework-Team mailing list Framework-Team@lists.plone.org http://lists.plone.org/mailman/listinfo/framework-team
[Framework-Team] Re: tomorrow's PLIP review deadline
On Feb 19, 2008, at 9:51 AM, Danny Bloemendaal wrote: I have been reviewing last night but only posted my review in the review notes inside the plip. I was under the assumption that that was sufficient, sorry for that but I did review them. no, it's not. as stated here several times before, all communication has to go through either the trac tickets or the framework list, ideally both and cc'ing the PLIP authors. And to be honest, I didn't know that I had to vote for plips I didn't review myself. this has also been said _at least_ twice on the list, and pretty clearly so. both of the mails i quickly found were also cc'ed to you, btw. Does that make any sense? I fully acqknowledge the reviewers ability to make a good judgement for the plips. it certainly does. as said before[1] every team member needs to read all other review notes, ideally give them some thought :), and cast their votes as to recommend the PLIPs inclusion for 3.1. this policy has been in place for 3.0 as well, and imho it should definitely remain the same. cheers, andi [1] http://lists.plone.org/pipermail/framework-team/2008-February/001909.html -- zeidler it consulting - http://zitc.de/ - [EMAIL PROTECTED] friedelstraße 31 - 12047 berlin - telefon +49 30 25563779 pgp key at http://zitc.de/pgp - http://wwwkeys.de.pgp.net/ plone 3.0.6 released! -- http://plone.org/products/plone PGP.sig Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ Framework-Team mailing list Framework-Team@lists.plone.org http://lists.plone.org/mailman/listinfo/framework-team
[Framework-Team] Re: tomorrow's PLIP review deadline
Andreas Zeidler [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: ... following their notes and the various discussion to come up with another opinion, albeit not reviewing things. at least, that's what i think makes sense. Among other suggestions for the process for the next review around: I think framework team members should explicitly enumerate their votes +1, -1, 0 rather than saying to follow the reviewers' votes. I know Martijn said this in this review round and it didn't seem to be a problem, but I think that step helps make sure that team members definitely read and process each other's review notes. Peace, George ___ Framework-Team mailing list Framework-Team@lists.plone.org http://lists.plone.org/mailman/listinfo/framework-team
[Framework-Team] The final(?) verdict
Hi Folks, at Wichert's request and in order to update us all I've just compiled the following overview. I hope I didn't forget anything. Feel free to comment on this as you see fit. I've scanned the tracker and looked again at some of the PLIP pages but I didn't dig through the mailing list archive. == Plone 3.1 PLIP status report as of 2008-02-20 (4am CET): PLIP #187: Working Out-of-the-box WebDAV http://plone.org/products/plone/roadmap/187 https://dev.plone.org/plone/ticket/7732 +3 - ready for merge PLIP #195: Support product dependencies http://plone.org/products/plone/roadmap/195 https://dev.plone.org/plone/ticket/7733 +4 - ready for merge PLIP #196: GRUF removal http://plone.org/products/plone/roadmap/203 https://dev.plone.org/plone/ticket/7734 -4 - not submitted PLIP #200: Kupu formlib widget http://plone.org/products/plone/roadmap/203 https://dev.plone.org/plone/ticket/7735 +3 - ready for merge PLIP #201: Improve the UberSelectionWidget UI http://plone.org/products/plone/roadmap/203 https://dev.plone.org/plone/ticket/7736 Don't know, seems to me this might be deferred to 3.2 It does seem to look good already though. At those who looked more closely at it: what do you really recommend by now? PLIP #202: Support inline validation and editing for formlib forms http://plone.org/products/plone/roadmap/203 https://dev.plone.org/plone/ticket/7737 +4 - but there is still some debate about what's the best way to handle the portal status message. Once this is sorted out (and implemented) it's ready for merge PLIP #203: Manage portlet assignments with GenericSetup http://plone.org/products/plone/roadmap/203 https://dev.plone.org/plone/ticket/7738 +3 - but before merge the encoding issue should be fixed (Martin might look at this later today) PLIP #204: Manage content rules using GenericSetup http://plone.org/products/plone/roadmap/204 https://dev.plone.org/plone/ticket/7739 +3 - but before merge the encoding issue should be fixed (Martin might look at this later today) PLIP #205: Flexibility Associating Portlet Types and Portlet Managers http://plone.org/products/plone/roadmap/205 https://dev.plone.org/plone/ticket/7740 +3 - ready for merge PLIP #207: Allow Custom Portlet Managers http://plone.org/products/plone/roadmap/207 https://dev.plone.org/plone/ticket/7741 +2 - ready for merge PLIP #208: Adapter-Based Local Role Lookup http://plone.org/products/plone/roadmap/208 https://dev.plone.org/plone/ticket/7743 +2 provided alec adds the migration step as promised PLIP #209: Add buildout to Unified Installer http://plone.org/products/plone/roadmap/209 https://dev.plone.org/plone/ticket/7744 +3 ready for merge but just so we don't forget: after merge we should again double-check that we don't give wrong advice to people about where to put add-on products in the file system in the Plone add-on products config panel (and maybe make it more obvious how to install eggs) PLIP #210: Improve UI support for objects on multiple workflows http://plone.org/products/plone/roadmap/210 https://dev.plone.org/plone/ticket/7745 -4 - not submitted PLIP #211: Enable dashboard to be locked down http://plone.org/products/plone/roadmap/211 https://dev.plone.org/plone/ticket/7746 -4 - not submitted PLIP #212: Use jQuery Javascript Library http://plone.org/products/plone/roadmap/212 https://dev.plone.org/plone/ticket/7747 +3 - but it seems there are a few little glitches still that may need some attention check back with danny and martijn before merging PLIP #213: Prepare for better Syndication http://plone.org/products/plone/roadmap/213 https://dev.plone.org/plone/ticket/7748 +3 - ready for merge PLIP #215: Include new KSS versions http://plone.org/products/plone/roadmap/215 https://dev.plone.org/plone/ticket/7749 +3 - in principle OK but it seems there are some minor issues that need to be fixed still check back with Balasz before merging PLIP #216: Template overrides http://plone.org/products/plone/roadmap/216 https://dev.plone.org/plone/ticket/7750 -4 - never submitted (Raphael notes: not sure we are on trac here as all this is about is to include the z3c.jbot package from http://svn.zope.de/zope.org/z3c.jbot OTOH people who want that can just do it) PLIP #217: Use Adaptation for Workflow Assignment http://plone.org/products/plone/roadmap/217 https://dev.plone.org/plone/ticket/7751 +2 - ready for merge PLIP #218: Increase Restrictions, and Ability to Change, Addable Portlet Types by Interface http://plone.org/products/plone/roadmap/218 https://dev.plone.org/plone/ticket/7752 +3 - ready for merge PLIP #219: New site search implementation http://plone.org/products/plone/roadmap/219 https://dev.plone.org/plone/ticket/7753 -4 - not submitted PLIP #220: Improve browser layer support http://plone.org/products/plone/roadmap/220 https://dev.plone.org/plone/ticket/7754 +2 - ready for
