[Framework-Team] PLIPs in Trac

2009-06-18 Thread Matthew Wilkes
Hi all, I'd like to open a public discussion on where tracs should be. As some of you may know, I'm very much against the PLIPs-in-trac system that has been implemented following out-of-band discussions last year. I think we need to make a proper decision, I'm not sure how that will happ

Re: [Framework-Team] PLIPs in Trac

2009-06-18 Thread Alec Mitchell
I'm in agreement that the plone.org system is preferable; however I think it's probably a little late to change this. It does seem like the "PLIPs" submitted so far are mostly unstructured feature requests. Even the better ones are pretty minimal. Alec On Thu, Jun 18, 2009 at 3:48 PM, Matthew W

Re: [Framework-Team] PLIPs in Trac

2009-06-18 Thread Ricardo Alves
Alec Mitchell wrote: I'm in agreement that the plone.org system is preferable; however I think it's probably a little late to change this. It does seem like the "PLIPs" submitted so far are mostly unstructured feature requests. Even the better ones are pretty minimal. I think the same, most

Re: [Framework-Team] PLIPs in Trac

2009-06-18 Thread Hanno Schlichting
Hi. Where and how to manage PLIP's is both a matter of a defined process and some software supporting this process. One of the main driving reasons to move all Plone Core development related information into Trac, was to have one place to manage and get an overview of all relevant information. If

Re: [Framework-Team] PLIPs in Trac

2009-06-18 Thread Maurits van Rees
On Thu, Jun 18, 2009 at 11:48:24PM +0100, Matthew Wilkes wrote: > Hi all, > > I'd like to open a public discussion on where tracs should be. As some > of you may know, I'm very much against the PLIPs-in-trac system that has > been implemented following out-of-band discussions last year. > > I th

Re: [Framework-Team] PLIPs in Trac

2009-06-18 Thread Hanno Schlichting
On Fri, Jun 19, 2009 at 2:03 AM, Maurits van Rees wrote: > I do not really mind either way.  But I talked with Jean-Paul Ladage > about this today and he is right in saying that end users wanting to > know the future of Plone will look at the roadmap on plone.org and > they will not be impressed: h

[Framework-Team] Re: PLIPs in Trac

2009-06-18 Thread Martin Aspeli
Hanno Schlichting wrote: Hi. Where and how to manage PLIP's is both a matter of a defined process and some software supporting this process. One of the main driving reasons to move all Plone Core development related information into Trac, was to have one place to manage and get an overview of a

[Framework-Team] Re: PLIPs in Trac

2009-06-18 Thread Ross Patterson
Martin Aspeli writes: > Hanno Schlichting wrote: > > I wrote a big reply to Matt, and ditched it. +100 to everything you > said. :) One of these days I'm gonna have to disagree with Hanno and Martin just cause I always agree with them, but not today. +100 also and seriously, for all the exact r