Hi all,

I'd like to open a public discussion on where tracs should be. As some of you may know, I'm very much against the PLIPs-in-trac system that has been implemented following out-of-band discussions last year.

I think we need to make a proper decision, I'm not sure how that will happen, but if it'll stop me whinging either way.

For Plone <4.0 we've put PLIPs on plone.org, this has the following advatanges:
- Unique, relatively low number for each PLIP
- Custom content type enforces PLIP structure
- Workflow matches our process

The disadvantage of it being on a different site has been raised, but I don't buy this. How often do you want to look at the bugs and PLIPs for a release at the same time? They have a completely different process.

The current crop of PLIPs for 4.0 are very unstructured, only the ones copied verbatim from plone.org have seconders. We're having to bodge workflow by assigning different milestones. It's really suboptimal.

Do others agree with me, or do you prefer trac?

Despairingly yours,


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