Re: [Board] Re: [Framework-Team] Re: [Plone 4] PLIP #9249 Add TinyMCE as the default visual editor

2009-08-19 Thread Wichert Akkerman

On 2009-8-20 06:54, Andreas Zeidler wrote:

On Aug 13, 2009, at 10:18 PM, Wichert Akkerman wrote:

On 2009-8-13 22:16, Alexander Limi wrote:

FWIW, Mozilla runs their entire project without a contributor agreement
— so we are already way ahead of what most large open source projects do
on this front. :)


Or way behind when shit hits your fan. Those agreements exists for
good reasons.


i think alex' "we" referred to plone here, not mozilla... ;)


yay for language ambiguity :)

Wichert.


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Re: [Board] Re: [Framework-Team] Re: [Plone 4] PLIP #9249 Add TinyMCE as the default visual editor

2009-08-19 Thread Andreas Zeidler

On Aug 13, 2009, at 10:18 PM, Wichert Akkerman wrote:

On 2009-8-13 22:16, Alexander Limi wrote:
FWIW, Mozilla runs their entire project without a contributor  
agreement
— so we are already way ahead of what most large open source  
projects do

on this front. :)


Or way behind when shit hits your fan. Those agreements exists for  
good reasons.


i think alex' "we" referred to plone here, not mozilla... ;)


andi

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Re: [Board] Re: [Framework-Team] Re: [Plone 4] PLIP #9249 Add TinyMCE as the default visual editor

2009-08-13 Thread Wichert Akkerman

On 2009-8-13 22:16, Alexander Limi wrote:

FWIW, Mozilla runs their entire project without a contributor agreement
— so we are already way ahead of what most large open source projects do
on this front. :)


Or way behind when shit hits your fan. Those agreements exists for good 
reasons.


Wichert.


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Re: [Board] Re: [Framework-Team] Re: [Plone 4] PLIP #9249 Add TinyMCE as the default visual editor

2009-08-13 Thread Alexander Limi
2009/7/29 Martin Aspeli 

> 2009/7/29 Jon Stahl :
>
> > So, my question is: what qualifies as "explicit" agreement?  Does it
> > have to be "on the permanent record" in some manner?
>
> In our business, an email that you keep tends to be enough. I would:
>
>  - Ask the relevant people by email
>  - Ask them to reply by email giving explicit consent
>  - Store those emails "forever"
>  - Make a note in a CONTRIBUTORS.txt or similar that these people
> consented on a particular date
>
> If that's ever in dispute, you can go back to those emails.
>
> I don't see a reason for any kind of "wet signature" so long as
> they've signed the contributor agreement. We're not *trying* to be
> difficult. :)
>

+1. One thing that SFLC taught us is that any lawyer will always advice you
to have their name signed in blood etc, to make *really* sure that nothing
goes wrong. In practice, as long as you can show reasonable intent (and an
email should be plenty, if there's forgery going on, that's a different
issue), so I think this should be good enough. Keeping the dates in a text
file is also convenient.

FWIW, Mozilla runs their entire project without a contributor agreement — so
we are already way ahead of what most large open source projects do on this
front. :)

— Alexander
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