Re: [Frameworks] Millennium Film Workshop

[Jay Hudson]

To Sasha,

Your words are inappropriate, offensive, and abusive.  I will not tolerate
it, and I demand that it stop.  If this type of conduct is against
framework's terms of use, I ask Pip to remove Sasha from the list if this
continues.  I have moved on and hold animosity towards no one.  There was
no justification to bring me into it.

To David,

I think it is better to lower the tone on this because I think you are
speaking from the heart and with good intentions.  It is better if you
consider that the situation with the Millennium followed a very common and
recognizable patterns in non-profits.  I made my decisions based on
extensive research and speaking with non-profit experts, attorneys, and
other professionals.  Every person that I spoke with was extremely direct
and unambiguous in saying that there was a serious problem that had to be
addressed immediately.  A few even said that there was no point in trying
to correct it.  I did what I thought was best and responsible.

Those of use working at MFW inherited a situation where the organization
was more than $40K in debt with the landlord. Howard basically dropped out
of sight when he got sick and I had to step in to put out fires with the
landlord.   When the archive thing was going on, MFW was trying to
negotiate a new lease.  We were being served with papers.  Almost
everything in the way that MFW functioned was so dependent on one
individual, that there were almost no established patterns to run things.
Naturally when he was not doing so, things fall apart.  MFW was failing
what is called the risk assessment test, where an organization can not
function without a certain individual.  This is unhealthy to an
organization, plus it makes it much more difficult to get funding.

I prefer that this be the last of this thread of this communication.  What
happened, happened.  These issues have no pertinence to today's events.
There is no sense in unproductively dwelling on events that are
unresolvable.  No one can be completely objective in this.

It is much better to think about the current MFW for what it is.  Times and
conditions have changed.  It will not be the old MFW, but I do think that
it has an important role to play.  Additionally, I wish people wouldn't
think so much about the MILLENNIUM, but more about what their own needs are
as filmmakers and what gaps exist in today's current situation that MFW can
fill.  I am optimistic about the current MFW and have nothing but full
support and appreciation for those who are working hard or providing
support.  I would hope that you and others who have negative opinions would
reconsider, be open minded, and be involved.  If not, that's ok too, but I
do not want to see every posting regarding MFW to be met with this kind of
communication.

Jay




On Thu, Oct 1, 2015 at 10:02 PM, David Baker  wrote:

> Jay,
>
> Because I, along with Margot Niederland  and Howard helped Lili White
> to organize and move the vast archives to a safe warehouse
> I know firsthand how perilous that moment was.
> There was a porousness and scariness at Millennium then which I hope never
> to encounter again.
> It was like NIGHT OF THE LIVING DEAD
> (Romero 1968 black and white version).
> We had to work with the utmost speed and efficiency for fear
> all would be lost in one scenario or another.
> Again I will say it is my deeply considered opinion that had Lili not
> initiated action
> at the moment she did the fate of the archives would have been very
> different.
> There was no question amongst those working to preserve this material
> of the stakes involved. We were simply not willing to leave it in your
> hands.
> Your relentless assassination of Howard's character was common knowledge.
>
> Because I spent time with Howard until his last month
> I know the uncommon grace with which he worked with everyone connected to
> the Millennium
> after he was deposed
> even when shut out of important channels of communication.
> I know he was absolutely devoted to keeping the Millennium going.
> I also know that he regarded you as I do as someone
> who consistently hits below the belt.
>
> Criticism I have for the current organization pales
> before that which I reserve for you.
>
> You will live in infamy in the annals of the Millennium Film Workshop.
> You hit Howard when he was down (health crisis / in the hospital).
> You took the Millennium from a righteous threadbare struggling cultural
> organization
> to an obscenely chaotic mess that accomplished nothing during your regime
> but the humiliation of Howard
> and the dissolution and loss of the space on Fourth Street.
> It was you the full board finally had no choice but to remove (in ignomy).
>
> It pains me to be so blunt.
> You must understand that morally I feel the need to push past
> the complicated smoke screen of words you are so adept at conjuring
> and testify as truthfully as I can to what I witnessed.
>
> David
>
>
> On Oct 1, 2015, at 4:27 PM, 

[Frameworks] NYC labs and transfer

[Mariah Garnett]

Hi! What are the good places to process and transfer film in NYC?
Thanks!
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Re: [Frameworks] NYC labs and transfer

[Pip Chodorov]

Hi Mariah,
I always use Metro Post, 115 W 30 #1209.
Jack Rizzo is very experimental-friendly, having worked in the past 
with Ken Jacobs and Stan Brakhage. He has started 2K scanning and 
color grading and he is still handling film printing as well if 
needed.
I usually send him negatives to develop and scan when I am not hand 
developing them.

Pip


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Hi! What are the good places to process and transfer film in NYC?

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[Frameworks] Millennium Members & Friends Informational Meeting (bylaws revision presentation)

[Peter Kingsbury]

Members and friends of Millennium Film Workshop are invited to an Informational 
Meeting that will introduce proposed Bylaws revisions on Wednesday October 7 at 
7:00pm.  The presentation with Q will be held in the Gallery of Brooklyn Fire 
Proof East, Bushwick.  This revision and restatement of the Bylaws, 
commissioned at the April 2012 Members Meeting, are intended to meet the letter 
and spirit of new state non-profit laws, strengthen Millennium’s governance and 
support, increase transparency and accountability, and enhance member 
participation.  This meeting will be an opportunity to learn why Bylaws 
revision is critical to Millennium’s future, and how this revision can move us 
ahead.  In a few weeks we will ask the members to vote their approval of these 
new bylaws.  Then elections will be held for our new expanded governing board.  
At this meeting we will explain the new candidate recruitment process that will 
lead to the board election, and why it is central to Millennium’s new process 
of board development.  We will explain candidate expectations, and the diverse 
skills and life experiences Millennium seeks to build a stronger board.  
Brooklyn Fire Proof East is located at 119 Ingraham Street in Bushwick, 
Brooklyn.  (Two blocks from the Morgan Ave station on the “L” subway line.)

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Re: [Frameworks] Millennium Film Workshop

[Elizabeth McMahon]

You had already said more than plenty.

Your cryptic "poem" is such a distraction for a general listserv. Send
stuff like this to the intended party and leave the public out of it. It is
just embarrassing, and garners you no good will.

Elizabeth McMahon

On Fri, Oct 2, 2015 at 7:26 PM, David Baker  wrote:

> Jay,
>
> Rare flowers that germinated in the dark
> in that moldy old  place
> will not come again.
> We will never be as free to play with all the potentialities
> of projected light as we were there then.
> Still it must go on.
>
> "Darkness  cannot drive out darkness,
> only light can do that."
>
> -Martin Luther KIng Jr.
>
> I will say no more on the subject.
>
> David
>
>
> On Oct 2, 2015, at 11:54 AM, Jay Hudson wrote:
>
> To Sasha,
>
> Your words are inappropriate, offensive, and abusive.  I will not tolerate
> it, and I demand that it stop.  If this type of conduct is against
> framework's terms of use, I ask Pip to remove Sasha from the list if this
> continues.  I have moved on and hold animosity towards no one.  There was
> no justification to bring me into it.
>
> To David,
>
> I think it is better to lower the tone on this because I think you are
> speaking from the heart and with good intentions.  It is better if you
> consider that the situation with the Millennium followed a very common and
> recognizable patterns in non-profits.  I made my decisions based on
> extensive research and speaking with non-profit experts, attorneys, and
> other professionals.  Every person that I spoke with was extremely direct
> and unambiguous in saying that there was a serious problem that had to be
> addressed immediately.  A few even said that there was no point in trying
> to correct it.  I did what I thought was best and responsible.
>
> Those of use working at MFW inherited a situation where the organization
> was more than $40K in debt with the landlord. Howard basically dropped out
> of sight when he got sick and I had to step in to put out fires with the
> landlord.   When the archive thing was going on, MFW was trying to
> negotiate a new lease.  We were being served with papers.  Almost
> everything in the way that MFW functioned was so dependent on one
> individual, that there were almost no established patterns to run things.
> Naturally when he was not doing so, things fall apart.  MFW was failing
> what is called the risk assessment test, where an organization can not
> function without a certain individual.  This is unhealthy to an
> organization, plus it makes it much more difficult to get funding.
>
> I prefer that this be the last of this thread of this communication.  What
> happened, happened.  These issues have no pertinence to today's events.
> There is no sense in unproductively dwelling on events that are
> unresolvable.  No one can be completely objective in this.
>
> It is much better to think about the current MFW for what it is.  Times
> and conditions have changed.  It will not be the old MFW, but I do think
> that it has an important role to play.  Additionally, I wish people
> wouldn't think so much about the MILLENNIUM, but more about what their own
> needs are as filmmakers and what gaps exist in today's current situation
> that MFW can fill.  I am optimistic about the current MFW and have nothing
> but full support and appreciation for those who are working hard or
> providing support.  I would hope that you and others who have negative
> opinions would reconsider, be open minded, and be involved.  If not, that's
> ok too, but I do not want to see every posting regarding MFW to be met with
> this kind of communication.
>
> Jay
>
>
>
>
> On Thu, Oct 1, 2015 at 10:02 PM, David Baker  wrote:
>
>> Jay,
>>
>> Because I, along with Margot Niederland  and Howard helped Lili White
>> to organize and move the vast archives to a safe warehouse
>> I know firsthand how perilous that moment was.
>> There was a porousness and scariness at Millennium then which I hope
>> never to encounter again.
>> It was like NIGHT OF THE LIVING DEAD
>> (Romero 1968 black and white version).
>> We had to work with the utmost speed and efficiency for fear
>> all would be lost in one scenario or another.
>> Again I will say it is my deeply considered opinion that had Lili not
>> initiated action
>> at the moment she did the fate of the archives would have been very
>> different.
>> There was no question amongst those working to preserve this material
>> of the stakes involved. We were simply not willing to leave it in your
>> hands.
>> Your relentless assassination of Howard's character was common knowledge.
>>
>> Because I spent time with Howard until his last month
>> I know the uncommon grace with which he worked with everyone connected to
>> the Millennium
>> after he was deposed
>> even when shut out of important channels of communication.
>> I know he was absolutely devoted to keeping the Millennium going.
>> I also know that he regarded you as I do as 

Re: [Frameworks] Millennium Film Workshop

[David Baker]

Your the boss Elizabeth.
No poetry intended just the flawed way I write.
Thanks for you help,
lesson learned.

One thing though, please be certain I need no good will from you
nor was I trying to garner any from anyone else.
I just was trying to find a form that fit.
You win some you lose some.

DB




On Oct 2, 2015, at 7:42 PM, Elizabeth McMahon wrote:


You had already said more than plenty.

Your cryptic "poem" is such a distraction for a general listserv.  
Send stuff like this to the intended party and leave the public out  
of it. It is just embarrassing, and garners you no good will.


Elizabeth McMahon

On Fri, Oct 2, 2015 at 7:26 PM, David Baker   
wrote:

Jay,

Rare flowers that germinated in the dark
in that moldy old  place
will not come again.
We will never be as free to play with all the potentialities
of projected light as we were there then.
Still it must go on.

"Darkness  cannot drive out darkness,
only light can do that."

-Martin Luther KIng Jr.

I will say no more on the subject.

David


On Oct 2, 2015, at 11:54 AM, Jay Hudson wrote:


To Sasha,

Your words are inappropriate, offensive, and abusive.  I will not  
tolerate it, and I demand that it stop.  If this type of conduct is  
against framework's terms of use, I ask Pip to remove Sasha from  
the list if this continues.  I have moved on and hold animosity  
towards no one.  There was no justification to bring me into it.


To David,

I think it is better to lower the tone on this because I think you  
are speaking from the heart and with good intentions.  It is better  
if you consider that the situation with the Millennium followed a  
very common and recognizable patterns in non-profits.  I made my  
decisions based on extensive research and speaking with non-profit  
experts, attorneys, and other professionals.  Every person that I  
spoke with was extremely direct and unambiguous in saying that  
there was a serious problem that had to be addressed immediately.   
A few even said that there was no point in trying to correct it.  I  
did what I thought was best and responsible.


Those of use working at MFW inherited a situation where the  
organization was more than $40K in debt with the landlord. Howard  
basically dropped out of sight when he got sick and I had to step  
in to put out fires with the landlord.   When the archive thing was  
going on, MFW was trying to negotiate a new lease.  We were being  
served with papers.  Almost everything in the way that MFW  
functioned was so dependent on one individual, that there were  
almost no established patterns to run things.  Naturally when he  
was not doing so, things fall apart.  MFW was failing what is  
called the risk assessment test, where an organization can not  
function without a certain individual.  This is unhealthy to an  
organization, plus it makes it much more difficult to get funding.


I prefer that this be the last of this thread of this  
communication.  What happened, happened.  These issues have no  
pertinence to today's events.  There is no sense in unproductively  
dwelling on events that are unresolvable.  No one can be completely  
objective in this.


It is much better to think about the current MFW for what it is.   
Times and conditions have changed.  It will not be the old MFW, but  
I do think that it has an important role to play.  Additionally, I  
wish people wouldn't think so much about the MILLENNIUM, but more  
about what their own needs are as filmmakers and what gaps exist in  
today's current situation that MFW can fill.  I am optimistic about  
the current MFW and have nothing but full support and appreciation  
for those who are working hard or providing support.  I would hope  
that you and others who have negative opinions would reconsider, be  
open minded, and be involved.  If not, that's ok too, but I do not  
want to see every posting regarding MFW to be met with this kind of  
communication.


Jay




On Thu, Oct 1, 2015 at 10:02 PM, David Baker   
wrote:

Jay,

Because I, along with Margot Niederland  and Howard helped Lili White
to organize and move the vast archives to a safe warehouse
I know firsthand how perilous that moment was.
There was a porousness and scariness at Millennium then which I  
hope never to encounter again.

It was like NIGHT OF THE LIVING DEAD
(Romero 1968 black and white version).
We had to work with the utmost speed and efficiency for fear
all would be lost in one scenario or another.
Again I will say it is my deeply considered opinion that had Lili  
not initiated action
at the moment she did the fate of the archives would have been very  
different.

There was no question amongst those working to preserve this material
of the stakes involved. We were simply not willing to leave it in  
your hands.
Your relentless assassination of Howard's character was common  
knowledge.


Because I spent time with Howard until his last month
I know the uncommon grace 

[Frameworks] PORTUGAL venues and suchlike

[Mark Street]

Hey Frameworkers,

I'll be more or less stationed in Portugal in early 2016, so I ask of
you are there venues, points of contact, places to connect with other
experimentalists you can recommend?  I asked this question about a year ago
on Frameworks, but didn't manage to make it to Lisbon; this time it's for
real.  Any advice much appreciated.

Sincerely,

Mark Street
www.markstreetfilms.com
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Re: [Frameworks] Millennium Film Workshop

[Amanda Christie]

I for one appreciated the poetic touch... 


I believe in the flowers that germinate and bloom from dark places. 
There is never just one.  
Dark soil is fertile ground.  
The crocus never blooms unless it has been frozen in the winter and kept in the 
dark underground and hidden from light... 

crocuses bloom every spring... 
it's not the same flowers, but it is the same soil.   
I believe in the flowers that geminate and bloom from dark places. 







On 2015-10-02, at 9:16 PM, David Baker wrote:

> Your the boss Elizabeth.
> No poetry intended just the flawed way I write.
> Thanks for you help,
> lesson learned.
> 
> One thing though, please be certain I need no good will from you
> nor was I trying to garner any from anyone else.
> I just was trying to find a form that fit.
> You win some you lose some.
> 
> DB
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Oct 2, 2015, at 7:42 PM, Elizabeth McMahon wrote:
> 
>> You had already said more than plenty. 
>> 
>> Your cryptic "poem" is such a distraction for a general listserv. Send stuff 
>> like this to the intended party and leave the public out of it. It is just 
>> embarrassing, and garners you no good will.
>> 
>> Elizabeth McMahon
>> 
>> On Fri, Oct 2, 2015 at 7:26 PM, David Baker  wrote:
>> Jay,
>> 
>> Rare flowers that germinated in the dark 
>> in that moldy old  place
>> will not come again.
>> We will never be as free to play with all the potentialities 
>> of projected light as we were there then.
>> Still it must go on.
>> 
>> "Darkness  cannot drive out darkness,
>> only light can do that."
>> 
>> -Martin Luther KIng Jr.
>> 
>> I will say no more on the subject.
>> 
>> David
>> 
>> 
>> On Oct 2, 2015, at 11:54 AM, Jay Hudson wrote:
>> 
>>> To Sasha,
>>> 
>>> Your words are inappropriate, offensive, and abusive.  I will not tolerate 
>>> it, and I demand that it stop.  If this type of conduct is against 
>>> framework's terms of use, I ask Pip to remove Sasha from the list if this 
>>> continues.  I have moved on and hold animosity towards no one.  There was 
>>> no justification to bring me into it.
>>> 
>>> To David,
>>> 
>>> I think it is better to lower the tone on this because I think you are 
>>> speaking from the heart and with good intentions.  It is better if you 
>>> consider that the situation with the Millennium followed a very common and 
>>> recognizable patterns in non-profits.  I made my decisions based on 
>>> extensive research and speaking with non-profit experts, attorneys, and 
>>> other professionals.  Every person that I spoke with was extremely direct 
>>> and unambiguous in saying that there was a serious problem that had to be 
>>> addressed immediately.  A few even said that there was no point in trying 
>>> to correct it.  I did what I thought was best and responsible.
>>> 
>>> Those of use working at MFW inherited a situation where the organization 
>>> was more than $40K in debt with the landlord. Howard basically dropped out 
>>> of sight when he got sick and I had to step in to put out fires with the 
>>> landlord.   When the archive thing was going on, MFW was trying to 
>>> negotiate a new lease.  We were being served with papers.  Almost 
>>> everything in the way that MFW functioned was so dependent on one 
>>> individual, that there were almost no established patterns to run things.  
>>> Naturally when he was not doing so, things fall apart.  MFW was failing 
>>> what is called the risk assessment test, where an organization can not 
>>> function without a certain individual.  This is unhealthy to an 
>>> organization, plus it makes it much more difficult to get funding.
>>> 
>>> I prefer that this be the last of this thread of this communication.  What 
>>> happened, happened.  These issues have no pertinence to today's events.  
>>> There is no sense in unproductively dwelling on events that are 
>>> unresolvable.  No one can be completely objective in this.
>>> 
>>> It is much better to think about the current MFW for what it is.  Times and 
>>> conditions have changed.  It will not be the old MFW, but I do think that 
>>> it has an important role to play.  Additionally, I wish people wouldn't 
>>> think so much about the MILLENNIUM, but more about what their own needs are 
>>> as filmmakers and what gaps exist in today's current situation that MFW can 
>>> fill.  I am optimistic about the current MFW and have nothing but full 
>>> support and appreciation for those who are working hard or providing 
>>> support.  I would hope that you and others who have negative opinions would 
>>> reconsider, be open minded, and be involved.  If not, that's ok too, but I 
>>> do not want to see every posting regarding MFW to be met with this kind of 
>>> communication.
>>> 
>>> Jay
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Thu, Oct 1, 2015 at 10:02 PM, David Baker  wrote:
>>> Jay,
>>> 
>>> Because I, along with Margot Niederland  and Howard helped Lili White
>>> to organize and move the vast archives to a safe warehouse

Re: [Frameworks] Millennium Film Workshop

[David Baker]

Jay,

Rare flowers that germinated in the dark
in that moldy old  place
will not come again.
We will never be as free to play with all the potentialities
of projected light as we were there then.
Still it must go on.

"Darkness  cannot drive out darkness,
only light can do that."

-Martin Luther KIng Jr.

I will say no more on the subject.

David


On Oct 2, 2015, at 11:54 AM, Jay Hudson wrote:


To Sasha,

Your words are inappropriate, offensive, and abusive.  I will not  
tolerate it, and I demand that it stop.  If this type of conduct is  
against framework's terms of use, I ask Pip to remove Sasha from the  
list if this continues.  I have moved on and hold animosity towards  
no one.  There was no justification to bring me into it.


To David,

I think it is better to lower the tone on this because I think you  
are speaking from the heart and with good intentions.  It is better  
if you consider that the situation with the Millennium followed a  
very common and recognizable patterns in non-profits.  I made my  
decisions based on extensive research and speaking with non-profit  
experts, attorneys, and other professionals.  Every person that I  
spoke with was extremely direct and unambiguous in saying that there  
was a serious problem that had to be addressed immediately.  A few  
even said that there was no point in trying to correct it.  I did  
what I thought was best and responsible.


Those of use working at MFW inherited a situation where the  
organization was more than $40K in debt with the landlord. Howard  
basically dropped out of sight when he got sick and I had to step in  
to put out fires with the landlord.   When the archive thing was  
going on, MFW was trying to negotiate a new lease.  We were being  
served with papers.  Almost everything in the way that MFW  
functioned was so dependent on one individual, that there were  
almost no established patterns to run things.  Naturally when he was  
not doing so, things fall apart.  MFW was failing what is called the  
risk assessment test, where an organization can not function without  
a certain individual.  This is unhealthy to an organization, plus it  
makes it much more difficult to get funding.


I prefer that this be the last of this thread of this  
communication.  What happened, happened.  These issues have no  
pertinence to today's events.  There is no sense in unproductively  
dwelling on events that are unresolvable.  No one can be completely  
objective in this.


It is much better to think about the current MFW for what it is.   
Times and conditions have changed.  It will not be the old MFW, but  
I do think that it has an important role to play.  Additionally, I  
wish people wouldn't think so much about the MILLENNIUM, but more  
about what their own needs are as filmmakers and what gaps exist in  
today's current situation that MFW can fill.  I am optimistic about  
the current MFW and have nothing but full support and appreciation  
for those who are working hard or providing support.  I would hope  
that you and others who have negative opinions would reconsider, be  
open minded, and be involved.  If not, that's ok too, but I do not  
want to see every posting regarding MFW to be met with this kind of  
communication.


Jay




On Thu, Oct 1, 2015 at 10:02 PM, David Baker   
wrote:

Jay,

Because I, along with Margot Niederland  and Howard helped Lili White
to organize and move the vast archives to a safe warehouse
I know firsthand how perilous that moment was.
There was a porousness and scariness at Millennium then which I hope  
never to encounter again.

It was like NIGHT OF THE LIVING DEAD
(Romero 1968 black and white version).
We had to work with the utmost speed and efficiency for fear
all would be lost in one scenario or another.
Again I will say it is my deeply considered opinion that had Lili  
not initiated action
at the moment she did the fate of the archives would have been very  
different.

There was no question amongst those working to preserve this material
of the stakes involved. We were simply not willing to leave it in  
your hands.
Your relentless assassination of Howard's character was common  
knowledge.


Because I spent time with Howard until his last month
I know the uncommon grace with which he worked with everyone  
connected to the Millennium

after he was deposed
even when shut out of important channels of communication.
I know he was absolutely devoted to keeping the Millennium going.
I also know that he regarded you as I do as someone
who consistently hits below the belt.

Criticism I have for the current organization pales
before that which I reserve for you.

You will live in infamy in the annals of the Millennium Film Workshop.
You hit Howard when he was down (health crisis / in the hospital).
You took the Millennium from a righteous threadbare struggling  
cultural organization
to an obscenely chaotic mess that accomplished nothing during your  
regime 

Re: [Frameworks] Millennium Film Workshop

[David Baker]

Thanks Amanda
You ARE a poet.
(just watch out for Elizabeth)

DB


On Oct 2, 2015, at 8:22 PM, Amanda Christie wrote:


I for one appreciated the poetic touch...


I believe in the flowers that germinate and bloom from dark places.
There is never just one.
Dark soil is fertile ground.
The crocus never blooms unless it has been frozen in the winter and  
kept in the dark underground and hidden from light...


crocuses bloom every spring...
it's not the same flowers, but it is the same soil.
I believe in the flowers that geminate and bloom from dark places.







On 2015-10-02, at 9:16 PM, David Baker wrote:


Your the boss Elizabeth.
No poetry intended just the flawed way I write.
Thanks for you help,
lesson learned.

One thing though, please be certain I need no good will from you
nor was I trying to garner any from anyone else.
I just was trying to find a form that fit.
You win some you lose some.

DB




On Oct 2, 2015, at 7:42 PM, Elizabeth McMahon wrote:


You had already said more than plenty.

Your cryptic "poem" is such a distraction for a general listserv.  
Send stuff like this to the intended party and leave the public  
out of it. It is just embarrassing, and garners you no good will.


Elizabeth McMahon

On Fri, Oct 2, 2015 at 7:26 PM, David Baker   
wrote:

Jay,

Rare flowers that germinated in the dark
in that moldy old  place
will not come again.
We will never be as free to play with all the potentialities
of projected light as we were there then.
Still it must go on.

"Darkness  cannot drive out darkness,
only light can do that."

-Martin Luther KIng Jr.

I will say no more on the subject.

David


On Oct 2, 2015, at 11:54 AM, Jay Hudson wrote:


To Sasha,

Your words are inappropriate, offensive, and abusive.  I will not  
tolerate it, and I demand that it stop.  If this type of conduct  
is against framework's terms of use, I ask Pip to remove Sasha  
from the list if this continues.  I have moved on and hold  
animosity towards no one.  There was no justification to bring me  
into it.


To David,

I think it is better to lower the tone on this because I think  
you are speaking from the heart and with good intentions.  It is  
better if you consider that the situation with the Millennium  
followed a very common and recognizable patterns in non-profits.   
I made my decisions based on extensive research and speaking with  
non-profit experts, attorneys, and other professionals.  Every  
person that I spoke with was extremely direct and unambiguous in  
saying that there was a serious problem that had to be addressed  
immediately.  A few even said that there was no point in trying  
to correct it.  I did what I thought was best and responsible.


Those of use working at MFW inherited a situation where the  
organization was more than $40K in debt with the landlord. Howard  
basically dropped out of sight when he got sick and I had to step  
in to put out fires with the landlord.   When the archive thing  
was going on, MFW was trying to negotiate a new lease.  We were  
being served with papers.  Almost everything in the way that MFW  
functioned was so dependent on one individual, that there were  
almost no established patterns to run things.  Naturally when he  
was not doing so, things fall apart.  MFW was failing what is  
called the risk assessment test, where an organization can not  
function without a certain individual.  This is unhealthy to an  
organization, plus it makes it much more difficult to get funding.


I prefer that this be the last of this thread of this  
communication.  What happened, happened.  These issues have no  
pertinence to today's events.  There is no sense in  
unproductively dwelling on events that are unresolvable.  No one  
can be completely objective in this.


It is much better to think about the current MFW for what it is.   
Times and conditions have changed.  It will not be the old MFW,  
but I do think that it has an important role to play.   
Additionally, I wish people wouldn't think so much about the  
MILLENNIUM, but more about what their own needs are as filmmakers  
and what gaps exist in today's current situation that MFW can  
fill.  I am optimistic about the current MFW and have nothing but  
full support and appreciation for those who are working hard or  
providing support.  I would hope that you and others who have  
negative opinions would reconsider, be open minded, and be  
involved.  If not, that's ok too, but I do not want to see every  
posting regarding MFW to be met with this kind of communication.


Jay




On Thu, Oct 1, 2015 at 10:02 PM, David Baker   
wrote:

Jay,

Because I, along with Margot Niederland  and Howard helped Lili  
White

to organize and move the vast archives to a safe warehouse
I know firsthand how perilous that moment was.
There was a porousness and scariness at Millennium then which I  
hope never to encounter again.

It was like NIGHT OF THE LIVING DEAD

[Frameworks] VSW tomorrow night

[Amanda Christie]

Apologies for cross posting if this already made it to the listings 


but tomorrow night (Saturday, October 3), my films are screening at VSW at 8pm 
in Rochester.

Yes... I made it across the border today with all my gear!  So game on!




Tomorrow night's screening is: Dividing Roadmaps by Timezones: 10 years of 
moving pictures - 1999-2009

it includes super 8 films, 16mm films, super 8 performance, and ends with a 
16mm dual projector expanded cinema performance.
In costume!


Come check it out if you're in the area!  


Amanda Dawn Christie

506-871-2062
www.amandadawnchristie.ca
ama...@amandadawnchristie.ca
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[Ken Paul Rosenthal]

Anyone out there with a broad knowledgeable of fonts and typefaces? If so, 
please contact me off list. I have a question about stylistic choices for a 
logo.

Thanks, Ken

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