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Re: [Frameworks] seeking double perf film
Another thing that could be explored is multiple exposures advancing the film by one-half (16mm) frame, eg. one double-8 sprocket hole at a time, then either splitting or not splitting. I have to admit there are still techniques here which I never got around to exploring. There are actually quite a few combinations and permutations utilizing the Double8mm/16mm transconvertability. I hate to see perfectly good weird techniques go unexplored and of course it has already been shown that every conceivable technique has its metaphorical analog right, I mean, if it is manifestable in the physical world it had its origin somewhere in the human brain. It is the extension of BillyBitzerism to infinity. Myron Ort On Jan 25, 2012, at 12:05 AM, Sean Weitzel wrote: I know this is getting off topic in terms of seeking double perf stock but I thought it would include well in this thread. My cousin taught me a neat effect easily achievable with R8 stock. Load your R8 camera and shoot the first half of a roll in ordinary fashion. Reload in preparation to shoot then 2nd half of the film but turn the camera upside down and shoot the 2nd half of the roll with the camera inverted. At this point you have two options, 1. take the roll out and have it processed but left unslit. Thread and project on a 16mm projector and you will see a grid of 4 frames two on the left are two adjacent frames of one scene and the two on the right are two adjacent frames of another scene. The 2nd option would be to take this existing exposed unprocessed roll of R8 (now at the head of the roll) and load it into a 16mm camera. The resulting processed roll of film projected on a 16mm projector would yield a grid of 4 frames as described above with a full image covering all 4 frames double exposed on top of it. Very cool effect. On Mon, Jan 23, 2012 at 4:52 PM, Myron Ort z...@sonic.net wrote: There is double perf 16mm, and Double 8mm which is double perf 16 with an extra set of sprocket holes such that if split it becomes Reg. 8mm. Yes Double 8mm could be shot in a 16mm camera or in a Reg.8 mm camera. Then it could be spit or not split, yielding several possible special effects: 1. shot in Reg. 8 camera, not split= frame quarters seen, one side upside down unless anticipated in shooting. 2. shot in 16mm, then split = flicker effect, alternate frame quadrants. See example below. 3. shot in 16mm camera, projected one sprocket displaced= half screen effect, horizontal split, top and bottom of frame. 4. shot in 16mm camera, double exposed in 8mm camera, then split. Any number of possible variations or possible multiple exposures with this kind of thinking. 5. who knows what you might come up with. Here is a film that was double 8mm film stock shot in a 16mm camera, meant to be used simply as 16mm, but I accidentally slit it, so there ended up two rolls (the two halves) of Reg. 8 with the flicker effect of alternating quadrants, then, after telecine, I juxtaposed the two halves side by side in chronological shooting order in fcp, yielding this double screen effect with the rather mysterious connections between the two halves. Note that one half of the split double 8mm had to be telecined as A-wind, the other half B-wind in order for this to properly work out. http://www.youtube.com/watch? v=l4cNZLv5o9Mlist=UUhNv2f1M4EKeyTB68E_n5dgindex=8feature=plcp Myron Ort On Jan 23, 2012, at 4:03 PM, Steven Gladstone wrote: On 1/23/12 6:21 PM, Myron Ort wrote: double perf versus double 8mm I always thought you could shoot double 8mm in 16mm, and when it was processed you would just have an extra set of unused perfs (might be a problem with frame lines if you were off by a perf.) I never tried it, so I might be wrong, but I thought the perfs were the same size. On another note. I have a Redlake Hycam, and would really be happy if someone wanted to come take it off my hands. While I'd prefer a 501C for tax purposes, in the end I'd like it to go to a good home that would use it. I'm located in Brooklyn, N.Y. -- Steven Gladstone New York Based Cinematographer Gladstone films Blog - http://indiekicker.reelgrok.com/ http://www.blakehousemovie.com http://www.gladstonefilms.com 917-886-5858 ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
Re: [Frameworks] double perf stock needed (Ireland / UK)
hey Sarah if you get stuck let me know, could probably source some for you here in NY cheers Moira www.moiratierney.net www.soluscollective.org From: sarah browne sarahjbro...@yahoo.ie To: Frameworks Postings frameworks@jonasmekasfilms.com Sent: Saturday, January 21, 2012 10:36 AM Subject: [Frameworks] double perf stock needed (Ireland / UK) Hi everyone, Anyone have any leads for double perf stock in Ireland / UK? Ardmore / Kodak, Fuji UK and filmclearance.co.uk have so far drawn a blank. Tips very welcome! Thanks Sarah www.sarahbrowne.info ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
Re: [Frameworks] Millennium Film Workshop Served with Papers from the Landlord
Good luck! Keep up the fight On Wed, Jan 25, 2012 at 5:10 PM, Jay Hudson jkh30...@gmail.com wrote: Hi All: Just a late breaking development. The Millennium has just gotten served with papers for their landlord fifteen minutes ago. They are taking us to court to get us evicted. Stay tuned for developments. There will be a full public meeting scheduled shortly. Jay ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
Re: [Frameworks] Millennium Film Workshop Served with Papers from the Landlord
It is totally on right now. This is the moment of truth for the Millennium. I am calling my friend who is an attorney to talk about the situation, both internally and in connection with the current service of papers. Perhaps we could settle them down, but I do believe that they have crossed the Rubican. Going to court mean that they want us out. There is an intriguing possibility. The building is not technically owned by La Mama, but instead by 66-68 E 4th Street entity, which is a nonprofit. Two of the founding board members were Howard Guttenplan and Jerry Tartaglia. Howard signed the charter as in incorporator. It was mentioned that they would change the board at the first meeting so it is possible that everyone that wasn't with La Mama was removed at the first meeting. However, it is possible and I would say likely that Howard is still on that board. This entity was just created and left alone. It never filed anything after incorporation, never did notices or 990s to the IRS. It lost it's exempt status in 2010. It is possible that the Millennium is a member of the entity. It could sue to remove the other board members and basically take over the building. Have to check with an attorney on that one, but it could be a possibility. Jay On Wed, Jan 25, 2012 at 8:17 PM, sef208 sef...@gmail.com wrote: Good luck! Keep up the fight On Wed, Jan 25, 2012 at 5:10 PM, Jay Hudson jkh30...@gmail.com wrote: Hi All: Just a late breaking development. The Millennium has just gotten served with papers for their landlord fifteen minutes ago. They are taking us to court to get us evicted. Stay tuned for developments. There will be a full public meeting scheduled shortly. Jay ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
Re: [Frameworks] From the industry:
Thanks for linking this. I actually get sick thinking about a day when I won't be able to go see a real projected film print. There are already films that will likely never be seen again this way. As the author of the blog article laments, I too would have savored all of the great real film prints I've watched even more had I known that it was last time I was going to see them. Tim From: neor...@maliga.com Date: Wed, 25 Jan 2012 10:16:03 -0800 To: frameworks@jonasmekasfilms.com Subject: [Frameworks] From the industry: Subject: The transition is speeding up exponentially http://www.studiodaily.com/blog/?p=8384 ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
Re: [Frameworks] Alchemy / James Whitney's Dwija (1973)
Many thanks to the list - I have had some very helpful and interesting suggestions, both on and off list, in terms of filmmakers who reference alchemical ideas, or who might be said to work in a consciously alchemical way with film - Christian Farrell / Silt, Sociedade Abissologica, Daniel Higgs 'Alchemist', Werner Nekes, Jim Davis, Ken Paul Rosenthal. I want to say also that May at the Academy has been very helpful in terms of organising a way of viewing James Whitney's Dwija. I am aware of William Moritz's writing on Dwija (thanks to CVM), also the discussion of Dwija in William Wees. If anyone knows of any other sources or commentaries I should know about in relation to this (or indeed his other 'elemental' film - Wu Ming) , please do let me know. Thanks again to everyone for such helpfulness. Richard Richard Ashrowan rich...@ashrowan.com Web: www.ashrowan.com Blog: http://richardashrowan.tumblr.com Alchemy: www.alchemyfilmfestival.org.uk ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
