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Hi Doug, I often think the same thing though I am lucky to be know several local analog filmmakers that I call friends. While there is a large community of people working with film, its very scattered and it might take a direct approach to meet like minded people in this age. I was in Calgary a few weeks ago for the $100 Film Festival. I'd screened there a few years ago and had a new film in this years festival. They only screen Super 8 and 16mm prints and I was curious as what 3 nights of film prints in the 21st century would be like. The festival organizers were terrific people and the programming was very strong. I was made to feel very welcome and I do think I will try to attend again. And best of all the crowds were huge (200-300 I'd guess) and quite lively. Animated films, gag films, abstract experimenting, several narratives. It was a very diverse show and quite entertaining. I also got to meet several local and out of town filmmakers, Paul Clipson gave an amazing talk and presented his Super 8 prints personally. It was amazing to be able to grab a beer with a few people you met the day before and talk film stocks and share ideas. There was a healthy contingent of filmmakers from the Canadian Prairies up on the screen. Obviously most people are working digitally but their traditional film scene has the benefit of an annual event to plan films for and gather. And it seems most people that I met there who are working on film are in there 20s and 30s and there are few of the old guard who just never stopped working with 16mm. I had a great time and I think I will try to attend again in the future. My advice is to look out for events like this and plan a trip. John Woods From: Doug Chaffin(Douglas Graves) dgtols...@yahoo.com To: FrameWorks frameworks@jonasmekasfilms.com Sent: Saturday, March 16, 2013 12:32:54 PM Subject: [Frameworks] Anyone else like me out there? As an isolated 16mm abstract moviemaker I'm very interested to know if there's anyone else like me around today? Specifically, is there anyone who works on photo-chemical celluloid motion picture film and makes any kind of formal aesthetic work that is either purely cinematic, abstract, or just generally lyrical and poetic, visually speaking? I'm 30 and I spent 3 years and 10,000 dollars making a really ambitious and stylized abstract 16mm movie called PALMS, it's a serious piece of work that I think is worthy of following in the tradition of what I feel are the truly great non-narrative cinematic artists such as Will Hindle, Ed Emshwiller, James Whitney, Pat O'Neill, Jordan Belson, Scott Bartlett, Bruce Baillie, Maya Deren, Slavko Vorkapich, and Dziga Vertov, among others. Are other people out there, particularly people younger than 50 and currently active, who are also passionate and excited by the work of all these great cinematic artists and are committed to working on celluloid? The last 3 years have been a struggle for me to make another movie and to get my 1st one even seen by anyone. and i also just haven't been able to find people who share my love of cinematic technique and will share it in any way, such as emailing or talking to each other about great shots and montages and optical techniques or sound design techniques in the brilliant movies by these artists. That kind of community and sharing is i feel necessary, even if only between a few people, and it's sad when we're so alone in our struggling and hard work. The only current 16mm moviemakers I know that are similar to me in any way are Timoleon Wilkins and Mark Toscano and they are unfortunately inaccessible for various reasons. I can't see their work or stay in touch with them as friends or even associates. Especially nowadays with all these faster, easier, and cheaper ways of communicating around the whole world such as the internet and cell phones, it's amazing how it seems like most people are if anything more reluctant and difficult about staying in touch and enjoying community and fellowship. I know that maybe there are some really great cinematic-celluloid artists working today out there who just make their work for themselves and don't really show it and don't desire to know other cinema enthusiasts. In a way I can understand wanting to be like that and maybe nowadays it's the only way to be. I might get like that too but right now I would welcome the interest and association of serious people whom love what I love and, as my mentor the great Bruce Baillie would say, want to be human to each other about it. Doug Graves 4636 Talbot Drive Boulder, CO 80303 702-580-4293 PURE CINEMA CELLULOID http://www.purecinemacelluloid.webstarts.com/ ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com
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Re: [Frameworks] Anyone else like me out there?
Just in case the purveyors of the $100 film festival are reading...I agree that their film festival is great, and they are super generous to the filmmakers they select. They actually pay honoraria, which is 1 in 1,000,000 these days. I hope they keep it up. -charles On Sun, Mar 24, 2013 at 10:36 AM, John Woods jawood...@yahoo.ca wrote: Hi Doug, I often think the same thing though I am lucky to be know several local analog filmmakers that I call friends. While there is a large community of people working with film, its very scattered and it might take a direct approach to meet like minded people in this age. I was in Calgary a few weeks ago for the $100 Film Festival. I'd screened there a few years ago and had a new film in this years festival. They only screen Super 8 and 16mm prints and I was curious as what 3 nights of film prints in the 21st century would be like. The festival organizers were terrific people and the programming was very strong. I was made to feel very welcome and I do think I will try to attend again. And best of all the crowds were huge (200-300 I'd guess) and quite lively. Animated films, gag films, abstract experimenting, several narratives. It was a very diverse show and quite entertaining. I also got to meet several local and out of town filmmakers, Paul Clipson gave an amazing talk and presented his Super 8 prints personally. It was amazing to be able to grab a beer with a few people you met the day before and talk film stocks and share ideas. There was a healthy contingent of filmmakers from the Canadian Prairies up on the screen. Obviously most people are working digitally but their traditional film scene has the benefit of an annual event to plan films for and gather. And it seems most people that I met there who are working on film are in there 20s and 30s and there are few of the old guard who just never stopped working with 16mm. I had a great time and I think I will try to attend again in the future. My advice is to look out for events like this and plan a trip. John Woods -- *From:* Doug Chaffin(Douglas Graves) dgtols...@yahoo.com *To:* FrameWorks frameworks@jonasmekasfilms.com *Sent:* Saturday, March 16, 2013 12:32:54 PM *Subject:* [Frameworks] Anyone else like me out there? As an isolated 16mm abstract moviemaker I'm very interested to know if there's anyone else like me around today? Specifically, is there anyone who works on photo-chemical celluloid motion picture film and makes any kind of formal aesthetic work that is either purely cinematic, abstract, or just generally lyrical and poetic, visually speaking? I'm 30 and I spent 3 years and 10,000 dollars making a really ambitious and stylized abstract 16mm movie called PALMS, it's a serious piece of work that I think is worthy of following in the tradition of what I feel are the truly great non-narrative cinematic artists such as Will Hindle, Ed Emshwiller, James Whitney, Pat O'Neill, Jordan Belson, Scott Bartlett, Bruce Baillie, Maya Deren, Slavko Vorkapich, and Dziga Vertov, among others. Are other people out there, particularly people younger than 50 and currently active, who are also passionate and excited by the work of all these great cinematic artists and are committed to working on celluloid? The last 3 years have been a struggle for me to make another movie and to get my 1st one even seen by anyone. and i also just haven't been able to find people who share my love of cinematic technique and will share it in any way, such as emailing or talking to each other about great shots and montages and optical techniques or sound design techniques in the brilliant movies by these artists. That kind of community and sharing is i feel necessary, even if only between a few people, and it's sad when we're so alone in our struggling and hard work. The only current 16mm moviemakers I know that are similar to me in any way are Timoleon Wilkins and Mark Toscano and they are unfortunately inaccessible for various reasons. I can't see their work or stay in touch with them as friends or even associates. Especially nowadays with all these faster, easier, and cheaper ways of communicating around the whole world such as the internet and cell phones, it's amazing how it seems like most people are if anything more reluctant and difficult about staying in touch and enjoying community and fellowship. I know that maybe there are some really great cinematic-celluloid artists working today out there who just make their work for themselves and don't really show it and don't desire to know other cinema enthusiasts. In a way I can understand wanting to be like that and maybe nowadays it's the only way to be. I might get like that too but right now I would welcome the interest and association of serious people whom love what I love and, as my mentor the great Bruce Baillie would say, want to be human to each other about
