Re: [Frameworks] Frame Discreet 2K

[Ryder White]

Thanks very much, Roger and Karl, for the advice! Sounds like an excellent
option.

ryder


On Sat, Apr 27, 2013 at 6:53 PM, Karl Reinsalu kreins...@gmail.com wrote:

 Frame Discreet is a great place to get 2K scans if you are in Toronto or
 Ontario. Their frame accurate system, quality colour correction and keen
 eye for detail has made many a fellow filmmaker up here jump for joy with
 the results.  I personally have had detail pulled from what I thought were
 totally blown out highlights once FD got my print into their machines. This
 positive edge is also to be said about the general quality of work as I've
 heard from others about having their faith in film regained as a medium
 after having FD re-transfer their prints that were inadequately transfered
 by other companies in the city.

 I'm often finding myself shooting in lower frame rates such as 8fps and
 16fps and their delivery method allows for me to edit (NLE) my content at
 it's proper frame rate in order for me to have a totally accurate
 film-output for my release print. That being said, this did not stop Sarah
 Polly from utilizing their services for super 8 contend for her latest
 feature documentary Stories We Tell.

 As Roger said, they are more than willing to provide samples of their work
 if you ask. Their website already does have content to peruse.

 Cheers!

 Karl Reinsalu - LIFT Technical Coordinator - (www.lift.ca)


 On Sat, Apr 27, 2013 at 4:46 PM, Roger Wilson 
 rogerdwil...@sympatico.cawrote:

 Hi Ryder,

 I have used Frame Discreet for many SD transfers in the past and know
 fellow filmmakers who have used their HD transfers, I only have good things
 to say about Frame Discreet and Justin Lovell. But if you like to see
 samples I am sure they can provide something for you to view they are a
 very helpful bunce!

 Good Luck!



 Roger D. Wilson
 613 324 - 7504
 rogerdwil...@sympatico.ca
 http://www.rogerdwilson.ca

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 and my career as an experimental film artist on this statement; and I
 welcome it as it pushes me forward as an artist to try something different,
 something new.
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 Subject: [Frameworks] Frame Discreet 2K


 Hello all,

 Has anyone used Frame Discreet in Toronto for their 2K digital transfer,
 especially for colour super 8? Looks like a decent deal but I can't say
 that I've seen any work come out of there personally...

 Thanks,

 RW

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[Frameworks] push processing 7266

[Erin Weisgerber]

Hello all,

I am hoping to push processing some 7266 by one stop.

Usually I develop 7266 in a lomo tank using D19 + Potassium Thiocyanate as
my first developer for 6 minutes at 20 degrees Celsius. I agitate for 10
seconds each minute.

Does anyone know how I might alter the time or temperature of my first
developer to push one stop? Any guidance in terms or approximate time or
temperature increase would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks so much,
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Re: [Frameworks] Footage equivalency

[Francisco Torres]

http://www.rogerandfrances.com/photoschool/ps%20how%20load%20bulk.html


On Sun, Apr 28, 2013 at 2:19 PM, J Vent jvent.subscripti...@gmail.comwrote:

 Good morning - I have a Morse, well a Fairchild crank tank processor and a
 Lomo processor tank, I'm going to be processing with Arista E-6 in it, the
 chem usage/re-useage specs are for 36 exp 35mm film. Anyone have a clue
 about how many feet are in a 36 exp roll of 35 mm film?

 Directions say I can run 4 rolls in a pint of juice (x3 parts), 8 rolls in
 a quart.
 I'm trying to sort out how many feet of 7285 I can run in a given amount
 of chemistry.

 I guess I could run several 1 foot pieces in a scaled down amount of E-6
 sauce until it breaks down but thought some one out there might have the
 answer and spare me that step.


 Thanks,
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Re: [Frameworks] Footage equivalency

[Ed Inman]

A 36-exposure roll of 35mm still film is about 5 feet long. If you equate that roughly as equal to 11 feet of 16mm film, a 100-foot roll of 16mm is similar in overall size to 9 rolls of 36-exposure 35mm.-Original Message-
From: J Vent 
Sent: Apr 28, 2013 1:19 PM
To: Frameworks 
Subject: [Frameworks] Footage equivalency

Good morning - I have a Morse, well a Fairchild crank tank processor and aLomo processor tank, I'm going to be processing with Arista E-6 in it, thechem usage/re-useage specs are for 36 exp 35mm film. Anyone have a clueabout how many feet are in a 36 exp roll of 35 mm film?Directions say I can run 4 rolls in a pint of juice (x3 parts), 8 rolls ina quart.I'm trying to sort out how many feet of 7285 I can run in a given amount ofchemistry.I guess I could run several 1 foot pieces in a scaled down amount of E-6sauce until it breaks down but thought some one out there might have theanswer and spare me that step.Thanks,JV
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Re: [Frameworks] Footage equivalency

[Beebe, Roger]

I just woke up from a nap, so maybe my brain isn't working correctly, but 
shouldn't we be talking about AREA rather than length?  That is, a 35mm frame 
is roughly 4x the area of a 16mm frame, so it requires 4x as much chemistry, 
not the roughly 2x suggested by the math below.  So if 5 feet of 35mm equals 
about 20 feet of 16mm, then 100 ft.=5 rolls of 36-exposure 35mm film.

Someone correct me if I'm wrong on this, but that's how I've always done the 
math.
R.

On Apr 28, 2013, at 2:44 PM, Ed Inman wrote:

A 36-exposure roll of 35mm still film is about 5 feet long. If you equate that 
roughly as equal to 11 feet of 16mm film, a 100-foot roll of 16mm is similar in 
overall size to 9 rolls of 36-exposure 35mm.
-Original Message-
From: J Vent
Sent: Apr 28, 2013 1:19 PM
To: Frameworks
Subject: [Frameworks] Footage equivalency

Good morning - I have a Morse, well a Fairchild crank tank processor and a
Lomo processor tank, I'm going to be processing with Arista E-6 in it, the
chem usage/re-useage specs are for 36 exp 35mm film. Anyone have a clue
about how many feet are in a 36 exp roll of 35 mm film?

Directions say I can run 4 rolls in a pint of juice (x3 parts), 8 rolls in
a quart.
I'm trying to sort out how many feet of 7285 I can run in a given amount of
chemistry.

I guess I could run several 1 foot pieces in a scaled down amount of E-6
sauce until it breaks down but thought some one out there might have the
answer and spare me that step.


Thanks,
JV
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Re: [Frameworks] Frame Discreet 2K

[John Woods]

I've had regular HD transfers done with them. They are quite good for the 
price, however, as an out of town customer I will say that their turnaround is 
slow and its difficult to get the best out of your transfer when you don't get 
to supervise. But no regrets! They care about the medium and the quality of 
their work. I can show you the Super 8 colour neg they transfered if you want 
to come by sometime or e-mail me and I can send you some links.


If you have a lot of time and are short on money. Cineworks now has a JK with a 
Super 8 and 16mm gates that has a DSLR mounted on it. Its a slow process but 
the quality is very high and if you don't have a lot of film to transfer its 
your best bet in Vancouver. The cost of renting it for an afternoon will be 
less than shipping film to the Big Smoke.

John






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Sent: Sunday, April 28, 2013 6:00:20 AM
Subject: Re: [Frameworks] Frame Discreet 2K
 


Thanks very much, Roger and Karl, for the advice! Sounds like an excellent 
option.

ryder




On Sat, Apr 27, 2013 at 6:53 PM, Karl Reinsalu kreins...@gmail.com wrote:

Frame Discreet is a great place to get 2K scans if you are in Toronto or 
Ontario. Their frame accurate system, quality colour correction and keen eye 
for detail has made many a fellow filmmaker up here jump for joy with the 
results.  I personally have had detail pulled from what I thought were totally 
blown out highlights once FD got my print into their machines. This positive 
edge is also to be said about the general quality of work as I've heard from 
others about having their faith in film regained as a medium after having FD 
re-transfer their prints that were inadequately transfered by other companies 
in the city.


I'm often finding myself shooting in lower frame rates such as 8fps and 16fps 
and their delivery method allows for me to edit (NLE) my content at it's 
proper frame rate in order for me to have a totally accurate film-output for 
my release print. That being said, this did not stop Sarah Polly from 
utilizing their services for super 8 contend for her latest feature 
documentary Stories We Tell. 


As Roger said, they are more than willing to provide samples of their work if 
you ask. Their website already does have content to peruse.


Cheers!


Karl Reinsalu - LIFT Technical Coordinator - (www.lift.ca)



On Sat, Apr 27, 2013 at 4:46 PM, Roger Wilson rogerdwil...@sympatico.ca 
wrote:

Hi Ryder,


I have used Frame Discreet for many SD transfers in the past and know fellow 
filmmakers who have used their HD transfers, I only have good things to say 
about Frame Discreet and Justin Lovell. But if you like to see samples I am 
sure they can provide something for you to view they are a very helpful bunce!


Good Luck!





Roger D. Wilson
613 324 - 7504
rogerdwil...@sympatico.ca
http://www.rogerdwilson.ca



Without failure you can never achieve success. I have based my process and my 
career as an experimental film artist on this statement; and I welcome it as 
it pushes me forward as an artist to try something different, something new. 






Date: Sat, 27 Apr 2013 12:52:23 -0300
From: ryder.wh...@gmail.com
To: frameworks@jonasmekasfilms.com
Subject: [Frameworks] Frame Discreet 2K



Hello all,

Has anyone used Frame Discreet in Toronto for their 2K digital transfer, 
especially for colour super 8? Looks like a decent deal but I can't say that 
I've seen any work come out of there personally...

Thanks,

RW

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Re: [Frameworks] experiments in cinema

[John Woods]

I was at the festival last weekend for the screening of my film Victor #5 and 
will reiterate everyone's opinion! Great programming, cool venue and 
projectionist, great crowds, warm organizers and volunteers. I felt very 
welcome there. Met a lot of cool people, some I got to know better than others 
but that is life.

If you get the chance, I'd encourage anyone to try to attend this festival. 
Thank you Basement Films!

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Re: [Frameworks] Footage equivalency

[Francisco Torres]

Right, area. 4 X


On Sun, Apr 28, 2013 at 3:53 PM, Beebe, Roger roge...@ufl.edu wrote:

  I just woke up from a nap, so maybe my brain isn't working correctly, but
 shouldn't we be talking about AREA rather than length?  That is, a 35mm
 frame is roughly 4x the area of a 16mm frame, so it requires 4x as much
 chemistry, not the roughly 2x suggested by the math below.  So if 5 feet of
 35mm equals about 20 feet of 16mm, then 100 ft.=5 rolls of 36-exposure 35mm
 film.

  Someone correct me if I'm wrong on this, but that's how I've always done
 the math.
 R.

  On Apr 28, 2013, at 2:44 PM, Ed Inman wrote:

   A 36-exposure roll of 35mm still film is about 5 feet long. If you
 equate that roughly as equal to 11 feet of 16mm film, a 100-foot roll of
 16mm is similar in overall size to 9 rolls of 36-exposure 35mm.

  -Original Message-
 From: J Vent **
 Sent: Apr 28, 2013 1:19 PM
 To: Frameworks **
 Subject: [Frameworks] Footage equivalency

 Good morning - I have a Morse, well a Fairchild crank tank processor and a
 Lomo processor tank, I'm going to be processing with Arista E-6 in it, the
 chem usage/re-useage specs are for 36 exp 35mm film. Anyone have a clue
 about how many feet are in a 36 exp roll of 35 mm film?

 Directions say I can run 4 rolls in a pint of juice (x3 parts), 8 rolls in
 a quart.
 I'm trying to sort out how many feet of 7285 I can run in a given amount of
 chemistry.

 I guess I could run several 1 foot pieces in a scaled down amount of E-6
 sauce until it breaks down but thought some one out there might have the
 answer and spare me that step.


 Thanks,
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Re: [Frameworks] Footage equivalency

[Ed Inman]

In terms of area, by my calculations, 5 feet of 35mm film equals 53340 square mm and 11 ft. of 16mm equals 53645 square mm which is pretty close. This is not an exact science, though, because it does not figure in the relative larger size of the 35mm sprocket holes to the smaller 16mm ones. Figuring that in, I'd estimate the actual conversion would probably be closer to 10.5 feet of 16mm, but to get really scientific you'd have to factor in the exact hole sizes, determine whether the 16mm is perforated 1 or 2 sides, etc. Regardless, I think if JV's instructions claim he can process eight 36 exposure rolls of 35mm film in a quart of his solution, he can be reasonably certain it's safe to process 100 feet of 16mm in the same. The bigger question to me is whether a suitable tank for 100 feet would require such little chemistry. I would be skeptical of trying to process E6 in a "rewind" tank and the large spiral reel tanks I use for 16mm require closer to a gallon of chemistry. But maybe that's why they call this the "experimental" film group. Might as well try it--good luck. --Ed-Original Message-
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I just woke up from a nap, so maybe my brain isn't working correctly, but shouldn't we be talking about AREA rather than length?  That is, a 35mm frame is roughly 4x the area of a 16mm frame, so it requires 4x as much chemistry, not the roughly 2x suggested by the math below.  So if 5 feet of 35mm equals about 20 feet of 16mm, then 100 ft.=5 rolls of 36-exposure 35mm film.Someone correct me if I'm wrong on this, but that's how I've always done the math.R.On Apr 28, 2013, at 2:44 PM, Ed Inman wrote:A 36-exposure roll of 35mm still film is about 5 feet long. If you equate that roughly as equal to 11 feet of 16mm film, a 100-foot roll of 16mm is similar in overall size to 9 rolls of 36-exposure 35mm.-Original Message-From: J VentSent: Apr 28, 2013 1:19 PMTo: FrameworksSubject: [Frameworks] Footage equivalencyGood morning - I have a Morse, well a Fairchild crank tank processor and aLomo processor tank, I'm going to be processing with Arista E-6 in it, thechem usage/re-useage specs are for 36 exp 35mm film. Anyone have a clueabout how many feet are in a 36 exp roll of 35 mm film?Directions say I can run 4 rolls in a pint of juice (x3 parts), 8 rolls ina quart.I'm trying to sort out how many feet of 7285 I can run in a given amount ofchemistry.I guess I could run several 1 foot pieces in a scaled down amount of E-6sauce until it breaks down but thought some one out there might have theanswer and spare me that step.Thanks,JV___FrameWorks mailing listFrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.comhttps://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
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Re: [Frameworks] Footage equivalency

[Ekrem Serdar]

Yeah, area math is what I've always done

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On Apr 28, 2013, at 14:54, Beebe, Roger roge...@ufl.edu wrote:

 I just woke up from a nap, so maybe my brain isn't working correctly, but
shouldn't we be talking about AREA rather than length?  That is, a 35mm
frame is roughly 4x the area of a 16mm frame, so it requires 4x as much
chemistry, not the roughly 2x suggested by the math below.  So if 5 feet of
35mm equals about 20 feet of 16mm, then 100 ft.=5 rolls of 36-exposure 35mm
film.

 Someone correct me if I'm wrong on this, but that's how I've always done
the math.
R.

 On Apr 28, 2013, at 2:44 PM, Ed Inman wrote:

  A 36-exposure roll of 35mm still film is about 5 feet long. If you equate
that roughly as equal to 11 feet of 16mm film, a 100-foot roll of 16mm is
similar in overall size to 9 rolls of 36-exposure 35mm.

 -Original Message-
From: J Vent
Sent: Apr 28, 2013 1:19 PM
To: Frameworks
Subject: [Frameworks] Footage equivalency

Good morning - I have a Morse, well a Fairchild crank tank processor and a
Lomo processor tank, I'm going to be processing with Arista E-6 in it, the
chem usage/re-useage specs are for 36 exp 35mm film. Anyone have a clue
about how many feet are in a 36 exp roll of 35 mm film?

Directions say I can run 4 rolls in a pint of juice (x3 parts), 8 rolls in
a quart.
I'm trying to sort out how many feet of 7285 I can run in a given amount of
chemistry.

I guess I could run several 1 foot pieces in a scaled down amount of E-6
sauce until it breaks down but thought some one out there might have the
answer and spare me that step.


Thanks,
JV

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[Frameworks] Raffle for Avid Media Suit

[Colleen Kwok TungShuen]

Dear frameworkers,

The 2nd Year Graduate class from NYU is hosting a raffle to give away $6400
in Avid software and equipment for the low low price of $10.

http://secondyearnyugradfilm.indiefilmsites.com/
Head right on over to http://secondyearnyugradfilm.indiefilmsites.com/the
raffle page where you can decide whether you'd like to enter to win this
for $10. You can enter as many times as you like until the drawing ends
Thursday, May 10.


This will help offset  the costs of an annual marathon screening of the
amazing films by our class.


Cheers,
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