Re: [Frameworks] good 16m lab in europe
Thanks Jana, This is really helpful! The good thing with Mr. Draser, the owner of Andec, is that once you're past his ex-eastern-german attitude (deadpan, a bit rough on the surface) he is very gentle, reliable, and professional. Anyone has had some experience with ARRI schwarzfilm in Berlin, or TF Cinenova in Wiesbaden? Thanks, Best, Marco On 25 September 2014 02:12, JANA DEBUS i...@janadebus.com wrote: Sorry, but as Film 16 Rings was mentioned here, I have to add this: Beware! Film 16 Helmut Rings is NOT recommendable. I had a 35 mm Exhibition Print done there. It had several severe technical flaws, it was unusable for exhibition. As by error his bill of ~ € 5.000,00 had been payed too soon, he never made a correction. I had to show the film from DigiBeta. And still remain to this day with a technically faulty print (sound and image!). Besides his technical deficiency, he is also extremely difficult to deal with as he is choleric and doesn't fulfill. ... De Haghe film in Amsterdam, De Jonghe film lab in Brussels and Andec film lab in Berlin, where recently highly recommended to me. Best, Jana On 24.09.2014, at 23:20, Marco Poloni wrote: Thanks Esperanza, Chris, Michael! Yes, it's negative film. I will research the labs you recommend. All the best, Marco On 24 September 2014 18:24, Esperanza Collado esperanzacolla...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Marco, I would highly recommend Super8 Reversal Lab in Holland for your super-8 films http://www.super8.nl And Haguefilm Digitaal, formerly Cineco, has recently increased prices, but if you have enough budget I would not hesitate to contact them directly for a quote of your 16mm magazines. Their website is not too complete, but you can write Wim de Boer from the lab i...@haghefilm.nl Both labs are very reliable. Im guessing at least your 16mm stock is negative film, otherwise Frank from Super8Reversal can process everything. Good luck! Esperanza. 2014-09-24 17:35 GMT+02:00 Michael joyce jo...@lpnhe.in2p3.fr: you might like to try deJonghe in Belgium: http://www.postproduction.be/ I had them develop both colour and b+w 16mm a couple of years back and was very happy with results. Best of luck, Michael On 24 sept. 2014, at 17:19, Marco Poloni wrote: Hello Frameworkers, I am soon to shoot quite a number of 16mm magazines for a film production. I don't want to take any risks with the material – of course –, and was wondering if any of you has had recent experience with fim labs in Europe. In the past I have worked with Egli film in Zürich, who absorbed the famous Schwarzfilm from Bern. I've had good results years ago, with only one scratch once on a roll, but they are quite expensive. Plus, since fewer and fewer people shoot 16mm, I don't know how fresh their chemistry is. For S-8mm I work with Andec filmtechnik in Berlin, but I am not sure I would give them my material. The S-8mm magazines they process sometimes have a bit of residual jet rem, which is almost acceptable on 8mm gauge but not on 16mm. In Berlin there's also ARRI Schwarzfilm, but again, no idea if they use fresh chemistry and have expert people running the machines. Thank you for your feedback! Best, Marco -- marco poloni usedomer strasse 8 d – 13355 berlin gsm de +49.163.6294080 gsm ch +41.78.6322028 skype marcopoloni ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks -- Esperanza Collado - - - - - - - - - - - - - - www.esperanzacollado.org ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks -- marco poloni usedomer strasse 8 d – 13355 berlin gsm de +49.163.6294080 gsm ch +41.78.6322028 skype marcopoloni ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks -- marco poloni usedomer strasse 8 d – 13355 berlin gsm de +49.163.6294080 gsm ch +41.78.6322028 skype marcopoloni ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
Re: [Frameworks] good 16m lab in europe
Hello, I made good experiences with Cinenova in Wiesbaden. Best, Helga Am 25.09.2014 um 10:02 schrieb Marco Poloni: Thanks Jana, This is really helpful! The good thing with Mr. Draser, the owner of Andec, is that once you're past his ex-eastern-german attitude (deadpan, a bit rough on the surface) he is very gentle, reliable, and professional. Anyone has had some experience with ARRI schwarzfilm in Berlin, or TF Cinenova in Wiesbaden? Thanks, Best, Marco On 25 September 2014 02:12, JANA DEBUS i...@janadebus.com wrote: Sorry, but as Film 16 Rings was mentioned here, I have to add this: Beware! Film 16 Helmut Rings is NOT recommendable. I had a 35 mm Exhibition Print done there. It had several severe technical flaws, it was unusable for exhibition. As by error his bill of ~ € 5.000,00 had been payed too soon, he never made a correction. I had to show the film from DigiBeta. And still remain to this day with a technically faulty print (sound and image!). Besides his technical deficiency, he is also extremely difficult to deal with as he is choleric and doesn't fulfill. ... De Haghe film in Amsterdam, De Jonghe film lab in Brussels and Andec film lab in Berlin, where recently highly recommended to me. Best, Jana On 24.09.2014, at 23:20, Marco Poloni wrote: Thanks Esperanza, Chris, Michael! Yes, it's negative film. I will research the labs you recommend. All the best, Marco On 24 September 2014 18:24, Esperanza Collado esperanzacolla...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Marco, I would highly recommend Super8 Reversal Lab in Holland for your super-8 films http://www.super8.nl And Haguefilm Digitaal, formerly Cineco, has recently increased prices, but if you have enough budget I would not hesitate to contact them directly for a quote of your 16mm magazines. Their website is not too complete, but you can write Wim de Boer from the lab i...@haghefilm.nl Both labs are very reliable. Im guessing at least your 16mm stock is negative film, otherwise Frank from Super8Reversal can process everything. Good luck! Esperanza. 2014-09-24 17:35 GMT+02:00 Michael joyce jo...@lpnhe.in2p3.fr: you might like to try deJonghe in Belgium: http://www.postproduction.be/ I had them develop both colour and b+w 16mm a couple of years back and was very happy with results. Best of luck, Michael On 24 sept. 2014, at 17:19, Marco Poloni wrote: Hello Frameworkers, I am soon to shoot quite a number of 16mm magazines for a film production. I don't want to take any risks with the material – of course –, and was wondering if any of you has had recent experience with fim labs in Europe. In the past I have worked with Egli film in Zürich, who absorbed the famous Schwarzfilm from Bern. I've had good results years ago, with only one scratch once on a roll, but they are quite expensive. Plus, since fewer and fewer people shoot 16mm, I don't know how fresh their chemistry is. For S-8mm I work with Andec filmtechnik in Berlin, but I am not sure I would give them my material. The S-8mm magazines they process sometimes have a bit of residual jet rem, which is almost acceptable on 8mm gauge but not on 16mm. In Berlin there's also ARRI Schwarzfilm, but again, no idea if they use fresh chemistry and have expert people running the machines. Thank you for your feedback! Best, Marco -- marco poloni usedomer strasse 8 d – 13355 berlin gsm de +49.163.6294080 gsm ch +41.78.6322028 skype marcopoloni ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks -- Esperanza Collado - - - - - - - - - - - - - - www.esperanzacollado.org ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks -- marco poloni usedomer strasse 8 d – 13355 berlin gsm de +49.163.6294080 gsm ch +41.78.6322028 skype marcopoloni ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks -- marco poloni usedomer strasse 8 d – 13355 berlin gsm de +49.163.6294080 gsm ch +41.78.6322028 skype marcopoloni ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
Re: [Frameworks] good 16m lab in europe
Thanks Helga. Me too, with a very nice duplicate of some sectors of a 35mm film via a DI, although that did not give the full picture of their technical capabilities. Best wishes, Marco On 25 September 2014 10:20, Helga Fanderl helga.fand...@gmail.com wrote: Hello, I made good experiences with Cinenova in Wiesbaden. Best, Helga Am 25.09.2014 um 10:02 schrieb Marco Poloni: Thanks Jana, This is really helpful! The good thing with Mr. Draser, the owner of Andec, is that once you're past his ex-eastern-german attitude (deadpan, a bit rough on the surface) he is very gentle, reliable, and professional. Anyone has had some experience with ARRI schwarzfilm in Berlin, or TF Cinenova in Wiesbaden? Thanks, Best, Marco On 25 September 2014 02:12, JANA DEBUS i...@janadebus.com wrote: Sorry, but as Film 16 Rings was mentioned here, I have to add this: Beware! Film 16 Helmut Rings is NOT recommendable. I had a 35 mm Exhibition Print done there. It had several severe technical flaws, it was unusable for exhibition. As by error his bill of ~ € 5.000,00 had been payed too soon, he never made a correction. I had to show the film from DigiBeta. And still remain to this day with a technically faulty print (sound and image!). Besides his technical deficiency, he is also extremely difficult to deal with as he is choleric and doesn't fulfill. ... De Haghe film in Amsterdam, De Jonghe film lab in Brussels and Andec film lab in Berlin, where recently highly recommended to me. Best, Jana On 24.09.2014, at 23:20, Marco Poloni wrote: Thanks Esperanza, Chris, Michael! Yes, it's negative film. I will research the labs you recommend. All the best, Marco On 24 September 2014 18:24, Esperanza Collado esperanzacolla...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Marco, I would highly recommend Super8 Reversal Lab in Holland for your super-8 films http://www.super8.nl And Haguefilm Digitaal, formerly Cineco, has recently increased prices, but if you have enough budget I would not hesitate to contact them directly for a quote of your 16mm magazines. Their website is not too complete, but you can write Wim de Boer from the lab i...@haghefilm.nl Both labs are very reliable. Im guessing at least your 16mm stock is negative film, otherwise Frank from Super8Reversal can process everything. Good luck! Esperanza. 2014-09-24 17:35 GMT+02:00 Michael joyce jo...@lpnhe.in2p3.fr: you might like to try deJonghe in Belgium: http://www.postproduction.be/ I had them develop both colour and b+w 16mm a couple of years back and was very happy with results. Best of luck, Michael On 24 sept. 2014, at 17:19, Marco Poloni wrote: Hello Frameworkers, I am soon to shoot quite a number of 16mm magazines for a film production. I don't want to take any risks with the material – of course –, and was wondering if any of you has had recent experience with fim labs in Europe. In the past I have worked with Egli film in Zürich, who absorbed the famous Schwarzfilm from Bern. I've had good results years ago, with only one scratch once on a roll, but they are quite expensive. Plus, since fewer and fewer people shoot 16mm, I don't know how fresh their chemistry is. For S-8mm I work with Andec filmtechnik in Berlin, but I am not sure I would give them my material. The S-8mm magazines they process sometimes have a bit of residual jet rem, which is almost acceptable on 8mm gauge but not on 16mm. In Berlin there's also ARRI Schwarzfilm, but again, no idea if they use fresh chemistry and have expert people running the machines. Thank you for your feedback! Best, Marco -- marco poloni usedomer strasse 8 d – 13355 berlin gsm de +49.163.6294080 gsm ch +41.78.6322028 skype marcopoloni ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks -- Esperanza Collado - - - - - - - - - - - - - - www.esperanzacollado.org ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks -- marco poloni usedomer strasse 8 d – 13355 berlin gsm de +49.163.6294080 gsm ch +41.78.6322028 skype marcopoloni ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks -- marco poloni usedomer strasse 8 d – 13355 berlin gsm de +49.163.6294080 gsm ch +41.78.6322028 skype marcopoloni
Re: [Frameworks] good 16m lab in europe
Synchro in Vienna also does 16mm I think they do a good job Am 25.09.2014 um 10:24 schrieb Marco Poloni mar.pol...@gmail.com: Thanks Helga. Me too, with a very nice duplicate of some sectors of a 35mm film via a DI, although that did not give the full picture of their technical capabilities. Best wishes, Marco On 25 September 2014 10:20, Helga Fanderl helga.fand...@gmail.com wrote: Hello, I made good experiences with Cinenova in Wiesbaden. Best, Helga Am 25.09.2014 um 10:02 schrieb Marco Poloni: Thanks Jana, This is really helpful! The good thing with Mr. Draser, the owner of Andec, is that once you're past his ex-eastern-german attitude (deadpan, a bit rough on the surface) he is very gentle, reliable, and professional. Anyone has had some experience with ARRI schwarzfilm in Berlin, or TF Cinenova in Wiesbaden? Thanks, Best, Marco On 25 September 2014 02:12, JANA DEBUS i...@janadebus.com wrote: Sorry, but as Film 16 Rings was mentioned here, I have to add this: Beware! Film 16 Helmut Rings is NOT recommendable. I had a 35 mm Exhibition Print done there. It had several severe technical flaws, it was unusable for exhibition. As by error his bill of ~ € 5.000,00 had been payed too soon, he never made a correction. I had to show the film from DigiBeta. And still remain to this day with a technically faulty print (sound and image!). Besides his technical deficiency, he is also extremely difficult to deal with as he is choleric and doesn't fulfill. ... De Haghe film in Amsterdam, De Jonghe film lab in Brussels and Andec film lab in Berlin, where recently highly recommended to me. Best, Jana On 24.09.2014, at 23:20, Marco Poloni wrote: Thanks Esperanza, Chris, Michael! Yes, it's negative film. I will research the labs you recommend. All the best, Marco On 24 September 2014 18:24, Esperanza Collado esperanzacolla...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Marco, I would highly recommend Super8 Reversal Lab in Holland for your super-8 films http://www.super8.nl And Haguefilm Digitaal, formerly Cineco, has recently increased prices, but if you have enough budg ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
Re: [Frameworks] Portraits of artists
Thank you so much guys! On Thu, Sep 25, 2014 at 7:39 AM, kate lain k...@katemakesfilms.com wrote: Hi, early this year I asked a similar question here (I too was working on such a piece and wanted to see works in that vein) and got lots of replies that I compiled into a spreadsheet. I'd be happy to send to you. Let me take a look and see where I put it and I'll email it to you off-list. If others are interested, feel free to email me and I can send it to you as well! Best, Kate On Wed, Sep 24, 2014 at 8:04 AM, Kabir kbrme...@gmail.com wrote: Dear Frameworkers I am currently working on a film that documents the daily routine of a painter/ experimental filmmaker - a poetic portrait of this aging artist who is now in his 80s. I am very keen on exposing myself to similar films that have been made in the past - primarily personal, poetic portrait films of artists (not traditional TV-style documentaries) and it would be great if I could please get recommendations if you have any? I live in India so works that are available on Ubu or elsewhere online would be of great help. Thanks a lot for your help. ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks -- kate lain k...@katemakesfilms.com 626.644.5283 ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
[Frameworks] Flavorpill list
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Re: [Frameworks] films using the optical printer
I'm a bit late on this thread, but quite a few of my films were done primarily on optical printers. Fallen Flags - various techniques ... edited in camera on the oxberry optical printer using Brian Eno's oblique strategies at every transition to determine effect, technique, and next shot in the edit (image choice and duration)... i saw this film as an improvisation on the optical printer. 3part Harmony: composition in RGB #1 - colour separation 3 passes edited in camera on an oxberry optical printer - this was the opposite of an improvisation on the printer as it was meticulously planned out. Knowledge of Good and Evil - another optical printer improvisation using oblique strategies Mechanical Memory - was done on a JK optical printer Turning was edited in camera and done on a JK optical printer (not many effects though) Amanda Dawn Christie 506-871-2062 www.amandadawnchristie.ca ama...@amandadawnchristie.ca ___ On 2014-08-11, at 9:23 PM, John Woods wrote: John Kneller does great work and IIRC he mainly works with 8mm that he blows up using his own equipment: http://www.cfmdc.org/user/8323 I'll also promote the work of my friend C.J. Brabant, whose colourful 35mm films originated from 8 and 16mm film and he then processed and printed after hours at the Vancouver Technicolor where he worked. All his works are online, my favourite is In Earth http://www.cjbrabant.com/ On Friday, August 8, 2014 4:35:30 PM, Caryn Cline carynycl...@gmail.com wrote: Dear Frameworkers, As always, your collective minds are amazing. Thank you all for your suggestions, lists, curricula, links and insights. I have my work cut out for me to find and screen these films, but that is one of the things I like best. What would I do without you? CC On Wed, Aug 6, 2014 at 9:06 AM, Caryn Cline carynycl...@gmail.com wrote: Dear Frameworkers, If I were going to undertake a series of screenings showcasing optical printer techniques, what work would you recommend? What is the best work for understanding the cinematic potential in optical printing? Are there any texts that could be included? I'm asking for my own enlightenment and to take my own OP work to another level, but I might also try to put together a public screening at some point. Many thanks, as always, for your thoughts and advice. CC -- Caryn Cline Experimental Filmmaker Teacher vimeo.com/carynyc Co-producer cinematographer, Acts of Witness www.actsofwitness.com -- Caryn Cline Experimental Filmmaker Teacher vimeo.com/carynyc Co-producer cinematographer, Acts of Witness www.actsofwitness.com ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
[Frameworks] FREE Film EQ for SF Pickup Only
I have some leftover remnants from my film eq garage sale which folks are welcome to pick up from me for FREE in San Francisco. Please contact me off-list only. Thanks, Ken www.kenpaulrosenthal.com - 39 x Hervic Super 8mm Tape Splices - Elmo Viewer Type 100 Daylight Viewer (*connects to front of Elmo Super 8 projector. NOTE: attachment bracket is bent, but viewer is in perfect condition) - 1-reel 35mm metal developing tank *good for snip tests - Canon C-67 lens cap *fits 1014XLS camera - Hurricane Jumbo air bulb - 1 x Toshiba 49mm B40 C filter in hard plastic case - 19-foot combination mic/remote cord for super 8mm cameras - 14-foot combination mic/remote cord for Elmo super 8mm cameras - Canon BM 10,17-inch telescoping mic for super 8 cameras, hot shoe mount, in original case *untested but makes for a great prop mic ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
[Frameworks] Looking for info on these films
Attention and Boom - animated films showing the history of war The General - who comes to the conclusion that to build for peace is better than preparing for war The Magician - the influence of toys on the young Toys - very similar (Action Man) The Toymaker - a puppet film about people's relationship to each other Parade - the other side of the coin when we watch a military parade War without Winners - a very up to date film interviewing both the American and Russian people For your Pleasure - a very short environmental film Pretend you'll Survive - Thank you, Jaime___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
