Re: [Frameworks] SCOOPIC 16 battery RECELLING (Spain/Europe)

[Mark Ostrowski]

(Sorry for the typo: should read: RECELLING / RECELLED)





> On 19/1/2016, at 10:15, Mark Ostrowski  wrote:
> 
> 
> Dear colleagues,
> 
> Does anyone know places to get battery packs for a Canon Scoopic 16 recalled 
> in Europe?  Also, if someone out there has the battery box accessory, I would 
> be interested.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Mark
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[Frameworks] SCOOPIC 16 battery recalling (Spain/Europe)

[Mark Ostrowski]

Dear colleagues,

Does anyone know places to get battery packs for a Canon Scoopic 16 recalled in 
Europe?  Also, if someone out there has the battery box accessory, I would be 
interested.

Thanks,

Mark

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Re: [Frameworks] out of date e6 chemicals

[Mary Stark]

Hi Jason the chemical concentrates have been opened and about a quarter
used I think...

I can run some tests but the film stock is also out of date so it's not
going to be straightforward!

On Tue, Jan 19, 2016 at 10:00 PM, Jason Halprin  wrote:

> Karen is definitley right. They may not be perfect*, but the unexpected
> errors can be very nice and very usable.
>
> Are you talking about a properly stored, unopened concentrate? Most
> likely, it will be just fine, with minimal shift from normal. If it was
> opened and has air in the container, it will be partially oxidized and
> weakened.
>
> -Jason Halprin
>
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[Frameworks] out of date e6 chemicals

[Mary Stark]

I have a set of Tetenol E6 chemical concentrate which went out of date 10
months ago.

The instructions say they go out of date after 6 months but I’m just
wondering if anyone has ever tried using out of date E6 chemicals with any
results?

I’m also buying new chemicals but wondering about the other set before I
take it to the safe waste disposal.

Very best,

Mary
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Re: [Frameworks] out of date e6 chemicals

[Mary Stark]

Thanks very much everyone for the encouragement and info

Mary

On Tue, Jan 19, 2016 at 10:15 PM, Jason Halprin  wrote:

> Yes, you can process any VNF film (like 7239) in E6 chemistry. Here's a
> forum discussion on adjustments/timing:
>
> http://www.filmshooting.com/scripts/forum/viewtopic.php?f=1=9893
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Re: [Frameworks] out of date e6 chemicals

[Dagie Brundert]

> The instructions say they go out of date after 6 months 
> 

Instructions say a lot ;-) if it's the concentrate it lasts at least 1 year and 
I agree to the other posts: you can have wonderful solarizations if the colour 
developer dies!
If you have very old film stock, lower the temperature to 30°.

l o v e

Dagie


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Re: [Frameworks] out of date e6 chemicals

[Mary Stark]

hey Steve...maybe not the family Christmas movie then. but sounds like fun
otherwise!

On Tue, Jan 19, 2016 at 10:06 PM, Steve Polta  wrote:

> I once lucked out and had some *amazing* results with expired E6: amazing
> color solarization throughout the roles and this weird flat purple stuff
> that took over all the dark areas. Can't guarantee your results but it
> could be very exciting. Obviously if you are after something that appears
> realistic you would be disappointed but otherwise it can be very
> interesting...!
>
> Steve Polta
>
> On Tue, Jan 19, 2016 at 2:00 PM, Jason Halprin 
> wrote:
>
>> Karen is definitley right. They may not be perfect*, but the unexpected
>> errors can be very nice and very usable.
>>
>> Are you talking about a properly stored, unopened concentrate? Most
>> likely, it will be just fine, with minimal shift from normal. If it was
>> opened and has air in the container, it will be partially oxidized and
>> weakened.
>>
>> -Jason Halprin
>>
>>
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Re: [Frameworks] out of date e6 chemicals

[Jason Halprin]

Yes, you can process any VNF film (like 7239) in E6 chemistry. Here's a
forum discussion on adjustments/timing:

http://www.filmshooting.com/scripts/forum/viewtopic.php?f=1=9893

Jason Halprin
jihalp...@gmail.com
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Re: [Frameworks] out of date e6 chemicals

[Mary Stark]

While we're on the subject does anyone know if EASTMAN EKTACHROME Film 160D
7239 processable in E6 chemicals?

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Kodak-Ektachrome-160-Type-A-SOUND-Color-Movie-Film-Super-8-expired-1988-/151951907206?hash=item23610a1986:g:OTEAAOSwpRRWmV~m

On Tue, Jan 19, 2016 at 10:03 PM, Mary Stark  wrote:

> Hi Jason the chemical concentrates have been opened and about a quarter
> used I think...
>
> I can run some tests but the film stock is also out of date so it's not
> going to be straightforward!
>
> On Tue, Jan 19, 2016 at 10:00 PM, Jason Halprin 
> wrote:
>
>> Karen is definitley right. They may not be perfect*, but the unexpected
>> errors can be very nice and very usable.
>>
>> Are you talking about a properly stored, unopened concentrate? Most
>> likely, it will be just fine, with minimal shift from normal. If it was
>> opened and has air in the container, it will be partially oxidized and
>> weakened.
>>
>> -Jason Halprin
>>
>>
>> jihalp...@gmail.com
>>
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Re: [Frameworks] out of date e6 chemicals

[Steve Polta]

I once lucked out and had some *amazing* results with expired E6: amazing
color solarization throughout the roles and this weird flat purple stuff
that took over all the dark areas. Can't guarantee your results but it
could be very exciting. Obviously if you are after something that appears
realistic you would be disappointed but otherwise it can be very
interesting...!

Steve Polta

On Tue, Jan 19, 2016 at 2:00 PM, Jason Halprin  wrote:

> Karen is definitley right. They may not be perfect*, but the unexpected
> errors can be very nice and very usable.
>
> Are you talking about a properly stored, unopened concentrate? Most
> likely, it will be just fine, with minimal shift from normal. If it was
> opened and has air in the container, it will be partially oxidized and
> weakened.
>
> -Jason Halprin
>
>
> jihalp...@gmail.com
>
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Re: [Frameworks] out of date e6 chemicals

[Mary Stark]

wow thanks for that Karen!
I will give it a go :)





On Tue, Jan 19, 2016 at 9:47 PM, Karen Johannesen <
karenajohanne...@gmail.com> wrote:

> I've used out of date E-6 chemicals many times. Often when the chemicals
> start to expire all kinds of wonderful unexpected thing happen including
> color shifts. I'd give it a try!
>
> Best,
> Karen
>
> On Tue, Jan 19, 2016 at 3:41 PM, Mary Stark  wrote:
>
>> I have a set of Tetenol E6 chemical concentrate which went out of date 10
>> months ago.
>>
>> The instructions say they go out of date after 6 months but I’m just
>> wondering if anyone has ever tried using out of date E6 chemicals with any
>> results?
>>
>> I’m also buying new chemicals but wondering about the other set before I
>> take it to the safe waste disposal.
>>
>> Very best,
>>
>> Mary
>>
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Re: [Frameworks] out of date e6 chemicals

[Jason Halprin]

Karen is definitley right. They may not be perfect*, but the unexpected
errors can be very nice and very usable.

Are you talking about a properly stored, unopened concentrate? Most likely,
it will be just fine, with minimal shift from normal. If it was opened and
has air in the container, it will be partially oxidized and weakened.

-Jason Halprin


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Re: [Frameworks] SCOOPIC 16 battery recalling (Spain/Europe)

[todd eacrett]

 
Shops that sell and service radio controlled cars/planes/boats
will usually recell battery packs as well. 
 
 

On Tue, 19 Jan 2016 10:15:34 +0100, Mark Ostrowski  wrote:

Dear colleagues,

Does anyone know places to get battery packs for a Canon Scoopic 16
recalled in Europe? Also, if someone out there has the battery box
accessory, I would be interested.

Thanks,

Mark

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Re: [Frameworks] SCOOPIC 16 battery recalling (Spain/Europe)

[Jean-Louis Seguin]

The original replacement is either 
Varta  5/V350H  or 5/CP300H
Not sure because of overall length.
Of course you'll need two.
Google these numbers on the Varta site. Should be able to find it, maybe thru 
Conrad.

Jean-Louis


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> On Jan 19, 2016, at 4:15 AM, Mark Ostrowski  wrote:
> 
> 
> Dear colleagues,
> 
> Does anyone know places to get battery packs for a Canon Scoopic 16 recalled 
> in Europe?  Also, if someone out there has the battery box accessory, I would 
> be interested.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
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Re: [Frameworks] SCOOPIC 16 battery recalling (Spain/Europe)

[Dave Tetzlaff]

Making DIY Scoopic battery packs is pretty easy. I made a .pdf: 

https://www.dropbox.com/s/pdfzutv84jcj370/scooby.pdf?dl=0

Original Scoopic packs used NiCad cells, which less run time than the newer 
NiMH cells, and also have 'the memory effect' which NiMH doesn't. Even if you 
revel an original pack, you should get NiMH. The thing is, the electronics for 
charging are slightly different, and the original Scoopic charger may not work 
so hot with NiMH cells. It's easy though to get a new charger. Scoopic cells 
are 12v. (I'm assuming here you're talking about the later black body Scoopics, 
not the old original gray body. Those have different size and voltage 
batteries.)


> Does anyone know places to get battery packs for a Canon Scoopic 16 recalled 
> in Europe? Also, if someone out there has the battery box accessory, I would 
> be interested.
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[Frameworks] oxberry printer

[rebecca moran]

Hi,

I have extensive experience on the J.K. optical printer and contact printing.  
I will have access to an Oxberry printer in April and would like to use it for
mulitple pass matte printing other optical effects but have never used one 
before.  If anyone knows of a good link to some literature or how to guides 
or has some advice; it is much appreciated. I have a few months left to teach 
myself the basics.

Best,
Rebecca
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Re: [Frameworks] SCOOPIC 16 battery recalling (Spain/Europe)

[Scott Dorsey]

Ask your local police department's radio shop who recells their walkie-talkie
batteries and send them there.  The job is very easy but requires a spotwelder
to connect the cells, but any battery shop should be able to do it it.
--scott
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