Re: [Frameworks] Remembering Cecile again

2016-12-09 Thread Elizabeth McMahon
Thank you, Pip.

I loved her very much. Cecile was an indefatigable champion of experimental
and avant garde film, up to her last breath.  One of a kind, a true,
unadulterated iconoclast. I was fortunate enough to do seven years of
Master Class Meet the Makers programs with her at NYPL's Donnell Media
Center. Those programs are among my most memorable  and treasured of my
many  years there.

Best,
Elizabeth McMahon

On Friday, December 9, 2016, Pip Chodorov  wrote:

> December 9th, 2016
> A round of memorial emails went out two years ago, but I have been
> thinking about her today and wanted to remember a tireless advocate for our
> favorite films and filmmakers at a time when nobody cared about them.
> Cecile Starr died on December 9th, 2014.
> - Pip Chodorov
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Re: [Frameworks] Remembering Cecile again

2016-12-09 Thread kitbasquin
Cecile Starr was special. She asked me to write a biography of Mary Ellen Bute 
with her, but died before she could work on it.  I wrote the book and am 
looking for a publisher. Kit Basquin



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December 9th, 2016A round of memorial emails went out two years ago, but I have 
been thinking about her today and wanted to remember a tireless advocate for 
our favorite films and filmmakers at a time when nobody cared about them.Cecile 
Starr died on December 9th, 2014.- Pip 
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[Frameworks] Remembering Cecile again

2016-12-09 Thread Pip Chodorov

December 9th, 2016
A round of memorial emails went out two years ago, but I have been 
thinking about her today and wanted to remember a tireless advocate 
for our favorite films and filmmakers at a time when nobody cared 
about them.

Cecile Starr died on December 9th, 2014.
- Pip Chodorov
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Re: [Frameworks] (no subject)

2016-12-09 Thread Fred Camper
Pretty much the "textbook definition of bigorty," to paraphrase a 
certain prominent Republican on another Republican, characterizing a 
whole group of people and making blanket assumptions about them. But I 
long ago learned to pay little attention to Bernie's posts


Fred Camper
Chicago

On 12/9/2016 8:21 AM, Bernard Roddy wrote:

Down with filmmakers, long live film!  What is a filmmaker today?  Who
amongst those interested in film would embrace the title?  What do we
have in mind when we think of what needs to be made, what we have to
see now, today?  Filmmakers are the last to know now.  They are the
most remote from even the technology of film, which is not just a
question of emulsion, nor a question of optical printing.  Could we
understand this technology without understanding what animation is,
without thinking about architecture, as architecture is understood
within urban studies . . and the book!  The book has more to do with
film than anything narrating a subject's desires. Down with
filmmakers, the elderly and rural pedagogues along with the young
opportunists, the youtube mob.  Long live film!

Bernie
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Re: [Frameworks] (no subject)

2016-12-09 Thread Pablo Marin
Now who's the elderly, rural pedagogue.
Nothing more elder and rural than the (recurrent) blind trust in the future... 

On Friday, December 9, 2016 11:21 AM, Bernard Roddy 
 wrote:
 

 Down with filmmakers, long live film!  What is a filmmaker today?  Who
amongst those interested in film would embrace the title?  What do we
have in mind when we think of what needs to be made, what we have to
see now, today?  Filmmakers are the last to know now.  They are the
most remote from even the technology of film, which is not just a
question of emulsion, nor a question of optical printing.  Could we
understand this technology without understanding what animation is,
without thinking about architecture, as architecture is understood
within urban studies . . and the book!  The book has more to do with
film than anything narrating a subject's desires. Down with
filmmakers, the elderly and rural pedagogues along with the young
opportunists, the youtube mob.  Long live film!

Bernie
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