Re: [Frameworks] Experimental Films on Farming/ Agriculture
I'm not sure if this fits or if anyone has mentioned it but you might consider Derek Jarman's "The Garden " Lawrence Brose (716) 491-9062 > On Jan 15, 2016, at 4:39 PM, John Matturri <jmatt...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Can't think of the title but Vincent Granier has a garden film. > >> On Jan 15, 2016 2:24 PM, "JS Shokrian" <deathvalle...@gmail.com> wrote: >> Sharon Lockhart was talking about a film last night that she had made in >> Japan about farming. Title is NO >> >> JSS Shokrian >> >>> On Jan 15, 2016, at 11:17 AM, Scott MacDonald <smacd...@hamilton.edu> wrote: >>> >>> Actually, my book The Garden in the Machine surveys many films/videos that >>> seem relevant. >>> >>> >>> >>>> On Fri, Jan 15, 2016 at 1:55 PM, Gene Youngblood <ato...@comcast.net> >>>> wrote: >>>> Rose Lowder’s lovely films come to mind in the gardening/plant category. >>>> >>>> > On Jan 15, 2016, at 11:13 AM, Dave Tetzlaff <djte...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> > >>>> > Chuck Statler - 'Ain't We Havin' Fun' >>>> > definitely >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > Werner Herzog = 'How Much Wood Could A Woodchuck Chuck' >>>> > maybe >>>> > >>>> > >>>> >> Any suggestions on avant-garde/experimental films that deal with any >>>> >> aspects of farming/gardening/plant or animal agriculture? >>>> > >>>> > ___ >>>> > FrameWorks mailing list >>>> > FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com >>>> > https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks >>>> >>>> ___ >>>> FrameWorks mailing list >>>> FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com >>>> https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks >>> >>> ___ >>> FrameWorks mailing list >>> FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com >>> https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks >> >> ___ >> FrameWorks mailing list >> FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com >> https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks > ___ > FrameWorks mailing list > FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com > https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
[Frameworks] Best quality 16mm film digitizing
I¹m not sure if this original email came through. I might have sent it to the wrong address for this group (I apologize if this has already been posted). Lawrence I have a number of 16mm film prints that I would like to get transferred to digital format. I know that there has been much discussion on this and I¹ve gone back and read some of the postings but I haven¹t found a direct answer to what I would like to know. I would like to know what is the best quality transfer I should be looking for. I have a quote from ColorLab in Rockville, MD and another one from Metro Post. Metro Post is cheaper but it is not telecine (just says ³hi-def film scan²). So before I go any further I thought that I should ask for suggestions from all of the great people here. These are all finished films in good shape (unfortunately the original negatives and Mag sound were thrown out by WRS). I don¹t want to say that cost is no issue but if I am going to preserve these films I¹d rather end up with the best quality, even if I need to space it out over time due to cost. Also, one of the films runs at 18fps (sound is on separate tape). Is this an issue? I really appreciate any suggestions or feedback. Thanks! Lawrence Brose ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
Re: [Frameworks] Best quality 16mm film digitizing
Thank you Dennis for your quick and through response. This is all very helpful information. I will check out the link to the Supplier Directory. Best, Lawrence On 7/31/14 10:50 AM, Dennis Doros milefi...@gmail.com wrote: Lawrence, The first and foremost thing is that the Association of Moving Image Archivists website has a brand-new Supplier Directory http://www.amianet.org/sites/all/files/Supplier%20Diretory%20-%202014.03.pdf that lists many of the resources anyone needs for the preservation of your materials. It's being updated constantly. Secondly, you should have a plan for what you are doing. If you are thinking preservation, you have to do 2K or 4K scanning rather than HD transfers. You should ask for copies of the digital DPX files in both the raw scan and fixed scans if you are doing any timing or cleanup. Then you should also have them deliver the final uncompressed or FinalCut Pro files for your use. The files should be given to you on both hard drive and LTO-6 tape (if you can get it -- if not, LTO5 would be fine.) They should both be migrated every four or five years. For my hard drives, I always buy a very large drive (usually 8TB to 12TB) for one or two films since you will want a mirror raid on it. For extremely expensive projects, I put them on two hard drives. Yes, it sound very OCD, but this is about preservation and redundancy, not about expediency. As for a film at 18fps. You should first scan it at 24p and keep that raw scan. If you are doing any dust and scratch removal, it has to also be done at 24p and be kept. That will be your preservation master. Then, the lab can create a 18fps umcompressed or FCP file and synch it to sound. I'm working with Jack Rizzo's Metro Post now and they are doing a very good job. I've worked with ColorLab many times and I trust them implicitly as well. It would also be a matter of doing your research and seeing what the best transfer would be for your material. I always ask what scanners and software they will be using and read the recent papers that are coming out of the new research on scanners, etc. Best regards, Dennis Doros Milestone Film Video PO Box 128 / Harrington Park, NJ 07640 Phone: 201-767-3117 / Fax: 201-767-3035 / Email: milefi...@gmail.com Visit our main website! www.milestonefilms.com http://www.milestonefilms.com/ Visit our new websites! www.mspresents.com http://www.mspresents.com , www.portraitofjason.com http://www.portraitofjason.com , www.shirleyclarkefilms.com http://www.shirleyclarkefilms.com/ , To see or download our 2014 Video Catalog, click here http://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0150/7896/files/2014MilestoneVideoCatalog.pd f?75 ! Support Milestone Film on Facebook http://www.facebook.com/pages/Milestone-Film/22348485426 and Twitter https://twitter.com/#!/MilestoneFilms ! See the website: Association of Moving Image Archivists http://www.amianet.org/ and like them on Facebook http://www.facebook.com/pages/Association-of-Moving-Image-Archivists/86854559 717 AMIA 2014 Conference, Savannah, Georgia, October 8-11, 2014 http://www.amianet.org/ On Thu, Jul 31, 2014 at 10:32 AM, Lawrence Brose lawrencebr...@gmail.com wrote: I¹m not sure if this original email came through. I might have sent it to the wrong address for this group (I apologize if this has already been posted). Lawrence I have a number of 16mm film prints that I would like to get transferred to digital format. I know that there has been much discussion on this and I¹ve gone back and read some of the postings but I haven¹t found a direct answer to what I would like to know. I would like to know what is the best quality transfer I should be looking for. I have a quote from ColorLab in Rockville, MD and another one from Metro Post. Metro Post is cheaper but it is not telecine (just says ³hi-def film scan²). So before I go any further I thought that I should ask for suggestions from all of the great people here. These are all finished films in good shape (unfortunately the original negatives and Mag sound were thrown out by WRS). I don¹t want to say that cost is no issue but if I am going to preserve these films I¹d rather end up with the best quality, even if I need to space it out over time due to cost. Also, one of the films runs at 18fps (sound is on separate tape). Is this an issue? I really appreciate any suggestions or feedback. Thanks! Lawrence Brose ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo
Re: [Frameworks] banned filmMAKER
De Profundis has not actually been banned but 100 of my exhibition prints (frame enlargements) are part of the indictment. MM Serra has said that the case against me and my artwork has had a chilling effect on the experimental film world and that is censorship! Once this is over I would like to do an exhibition of a number of the prints and title the exhibition The Indictment Show. This is all so stupid and raises serious questions about artistic freedom. Anyway, thank you David for drawing attention to my film and the defense fund. Lawrence lawrencebr...@gmail.com On 3/29/14 7:42 AM, david at lake ivan da...@lakeivan.org wrote: I don't know if De Profundis by Lawrence Brose is actually banned, per se, but the filmmaker himself has been subjected to a completely spurious persecution by the Federal government since 2009, based on false allegations that he possessed child pornography. http://lawrencebroselegaldefensefund.com David Finkelstein da...@lakeivan.org www.lakeivan.org _ __ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listi nfo/frameworks ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
Re: [Frameworks] drugged
Has anyone suggested ³The Trip² (1967) by Roger Corman with Peter Fonda, Dennis Hopper and Bruce Dern? Lawrence On 2/9/13 6:25 PM, Emile Tobenfeld (a.k.a Dr. T) em...@foryourhead.com wrote: At 3:07 PM -0500 2/9/13, Dennis Doros wrote: Chappaqua (Conrad Rooks) and Head (Rafelson). Steppenwolf Dennis On Sat, Feb 9, 2013 at 2:50 PM, Matt Helme mailto:dcinema2...@yahoo.comdcinema2...@yahoo.com wrote: We can't go back Home Again by Nick Ray. Matt http://www.youtube.com/user/matthelme007http://www.youtube.com/user/matthel me007 From: Eric Theise mailto:ericthe...@gmail.comericthe...@gmail.com To: Experimental Film Discussion List mailto:frameworks@jonasmekasfilms.comframeworks@jonasmekasfilms.com Sent: Saturday, February 9, 2013 2:40 PM Subject: [Frameworks] drugged Hello Frameworkers, I'm hoping to get suggestions for studying the tropes of the trip, that is to say, the way hallucinatory and other drug experiences have been portrayed on-screen. Flashy, over-the-top visual signifiers are what I seek, but Frameworks excels at identifying examples that aren't what the original poster had in mind, so please go to it! Examples will be put to experimental purposes, but can come from any genre, thanks in advance. Hope all of you affected by the Nemo storm are okay and able to find beauty in it. --Eric ___ FrameWorks mailing list mailto:FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.comFrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworkshttps://mailman-mai l5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks ___ FrameWorks mailing list mailto:FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.comFrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworkshttps://mailman-mai l5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks -- Best regards, Dennis Doros Milestone Film Video/Milliarium Zero PO Box 128 / Harrington Park, NJ 07640 Phone: 201-767-3117 / Fax: 201-767-3035 / Email: mailto:milefi...@gmail.commilefi...@gmail.com Visit our main website! http://www.milestonefilms.com/www.milestonefilms.com Visit our new websites! http://www.shirleyclarkefilms.com/www.shirleyclarkefilms.com, http://www.comebackafrica.com/www.comebackafrica.com http://www.ontheboweryfilm.com/www.ontheboweryfilm.com http://www.killerofsheep.com/ Support Milestone Film on http://www.facebook.com/pages/Milestone-Film/22348485426Facebook and https://twitter.com/#!/MilestoneFilmsTwitter! See the website: http://www.amianet.org/Association of Moving Image Archivists and like them on http://www.facebook.com/pages/Association-of-Moving-Image-Archivists/8685455 9717Facebook http://www.amianet.org/AMIA 2013 Conference, Richmond, Virginia, November 5-9! ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
Re: [Frameworks] Films composed to music
I have a series of films titled Film for Music for Film that were all created/composed to music. The idea was to give equal weight to both the music and the film but the music came first. I can let you know more about this series (which also includes my film De Profundis plus my 5 multi screen one-hour work CAGE: A FILMIC CIRCUS ON METAPHORS ON VISION). You can preview some of the films on the Lightcone website at: http://lightcone.org/en/filmmaker-41-lawrence-f-brose You can read brief descriptions of some of the films on Canyon Cinema¹s website at: http://canyoncinema.com/catalog/filmmaker/?i=54 Plus a brief overall description at: http://canyoncinema.com/catalog/film/?i=2624 Please contact me off list if you have any questions. Best, Lawrence On 1/9/13 4:32 PM, Herb Shellenberger he...@ihphilly.org wrote: Hello Frameworkers. There have been a few really great looking-for-this-type-of-film threads recently, so I thought I would throw my query out there. A colleague and I were discussing experimental films that were composed to music. In general we think of film scores being added after the fact, but there are few films that I can think of that are composed specifically to fit a piece of music: Studies for the Decay of the West (dir. Klaus Wyborny) In Wyborny's musical film, every new sound triggers a new image: 6,299 shots, all directly edited within his Super-8 camera. An intoxicating, stroboscopic trip to industrial, natural and urban landscapes in East Africa, New York, the Ruhr region and Rimini. This experimental music film refers to Oswald Spengler¹s world-famous 1918 philosophical work The Decay of the West. Culture pessimist Spengler argues that progress is an illusion and that the modern era brings little good. People are no longer able to understand the rationality of the world. Wyborny does not set out to make a film version of Spengler's theories, but rather a visual reflection on the modern age; a stroboscopic journey in five parts to industrial, natural and urban landscapes. He uses 6,299 shots, edited directly in a Super-8 camera. Each piano note and violin vibrato evokes a new image: demolished buildings, rubble, destruction and nature. This film forms a counterpart to Wyborny¹s previous films series Eine andere Welt. Lieder der Erde II(2004/2005). [Film Society of Lincoln Center] Passage Through: A Ritual (dir. Stan Brakahge) When I received the tape of Philip Corner's ³Through the Mysterious Barricade, Lumen 1 (after F. Couperin),² he included a note that thanked me for my film, ³The Riddle of Lumen,² he'd just seen and which had in some way inspired this music. I, in turn, was so moved by the tape he sent I immediately asked his permission to set it to film. It required the most exacting editing process ever; and in the course of that work it occurred to me that I'd originally made ³The Riddle of Lumen² hoping someone would make an answering film and entertain my visual riddle in the manner of the riddling poets of yore. I most expected Hollis Frampton (because of Zorn's ³Lemma²) to pick up the challenge; but he never did. In some sense I think composer Corner has - and now we have this dance of riddles as music and film combine to make passage, in every sense of the word, further possible. (To be absolutely true to the ritual of this passage, the two reels of the film should be shown on one projector, taking the normal amount of time, without rewinding reel #1 or showing the finish and start leaders of either - especially without changing the sound dials - between reels.) [Stan Brakhage, via CFMDC] These are both films that use film to ³play² music in a sense, or use music to generate images or structures. While some filmmakers may have used music in this way in a portion of a larger film, I¹m more interested in films that exclusively use this method, whether it is with one complete piece or a few. Also, I¹m trying to focus on films that integrate music more deeply than just cutting on specific beats. Any ideas would be much appreciated! Herb Shellenberger Programs Office Manager 3701 CHESTNUT STREET | PHILADELPHIA, PA 19104 phone: 215.895.6575 | fax: 215.895.6562 email: he...@ihphilly.org | web: www.ihousephilly.org http://www.ihousephilly.org/ ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks image.jpg___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
[Frameworks] Exposure question
I have a student who wants to shoot stills off of a video monitor on film (still camera) and has asked about what correction he should make regarding the light meter reading. It has been a long time since I have done this so any suggestions are greatly appreciated. Thank you, Lawrence ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
Re: [Frameworks] Exposure question
Thank you Abigail for your thoughtful and informative response. I really appreciate it. Lawrence On 11/1/12 9:17 PM, Abigail Severance bellec...@mac.com wrote: If I'm understanding the set up, the illuminated monitor works like a light source, so you would use a spot meter to measure the intensity of the illuminated/reflected video image. Many film SLRs have one built in. One issue to consider is if the monitor itself (beyond the edges of the screen) is also part of the new film-still image, in which case you'd want to measure that area with an incident meter and see if your stock's latitude can hold both, and if so, what stop to set to keep detail in both the very bright screen and the less bright monitor. ND gel over the screen would bring down the brightness if you need to get it closer to the monitor reading. Be sure meters are set to still image reading, not cine setting. Abigail sent from abigail severance's cloud bellec...@mac.com 310.508.0352 www.film.calarts.edu On Nov 01, 2012, at 06:07 PM, Lawrence Brose lawrencebr...@gmail.com wrote: I have a student who wants to shoot stills off of a video monitor on film (still camera) and has asked about what correction he should make regarding the light meter reading. It has been a long time since I have done this so any suggestions are greatly appreciated. Thank you, Lawrence ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
Re: [Frameworks] Exposure question
Thank you Scott. He will be shooting a paused frame from a video so flickering will not be an issue. I think that bracketing is a great suggestion. Thanks for your response. Lawrence On 11/1/12 9:26 PM, Scott Dorsey klu...@panix.com wrote: The problem used to be that meters read too high because the CRT flickered and the meter read peak and not average light value. But now we live in the LCD age, and the LCDs don't flicker the same way, so you can pretty much trust meter exposures off an LCD. Also you can put your reflected light meter against an LCD without fear of magnetizing the screen as would happen with CRTs. I'd still bracket a stop either way but the LCD makes this much easier. You can even film off an LCD without too much flicker. --scott ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listi nfo/frameworks ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
Re: [Frameworks] Exposure question
Thank you Jeff. This is very helpful! Lawrence On 11/1/12 9:48 PM, Jeff Kreines jeffkrei...@mindspring.com wrote: If you are shooting color film, note that monitors are usually balanced at about 6500 degrees kelvin, which is essentially daylight -- so use a daylight-balanced film. Also I would use a shutter speed of 1/30th in case there are any field-issues depending on the video source (interlaced or progressive). Probably doesn't matter but can't hurt. Test! On Nov 1, 2012, at 8:31 PM, Lawrence Brose wrote: Re: [Frameworks] Exposure question Thank you Scott. He will be shooting a paused frame from a video so flickering will not be an issue. I think that bracketing is a great suggestion. Thanks for your response. Lawrence On 11/1/12 9:26 PM, Scott Dorsey klu...@panix.com wrote: The problem used to be that meters read too high because the CRT flickered and the meter read peak and not average light value. But now we live in the LCD age, and the LCDs don't flicker the same way, so you can pretty much trust meter exposures off an LCD. Also you can put your reflected light meter against an LCD without fear of magnetizing the screen as would happen with CRTs. I'd still bracket a stop either way but the LCD makes this much easier. You can even film off an LCD without too much flicker. --scott ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listi nfo/frameworks ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
Re: [Frameworks] looking for a recording studio/space in NYC
You may also want to contact Harvestworks. They have a good studio and are a not-for-profit organization. Lawrence Brose On 12/4/11 11:13 AM, Meredith Drum meredithd...@gmail.com wrote: John Bosch at Ground Control Studio in Brooklyn does great work. Reasonable rates: http://www.groundcontrolstudio.com/ On Dec 4, 2011, at 9:14 AM, Serge Levchin wrote: hello list i need to record an audio-only interview in NYC in a few weeks. any suggestions for a professional space with good microphones, good sound insulation and acoustics, and not terribly expensive? many thanks - sergey ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listi nfo/frameworks ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
[Frameworks] FW: Update - Lawrence Brose case in the press
I hope that you don¹t mind but I thought that I would share this with everyone. Lawrence -- Forwarded Message From: defensef...@lawrencebrose.com defensef...@lawrencebrose.com Date: Sat, 26 Nov 2011 18:20:32 -0500 To: k...@aol.com, lawrencebr...@gmail.com Subject: Update - Lawrence Brose case in the press Dear Friends and Supporters of Lawrence Brose, We want to share with everyone a very important article on Lawrence Brose by Doug Ireland which was just published in Gay City News. Doug Ireland is the Contributing Editor for International Affairs of Gay City News, the largest LGBT weekly newspaper in New York City and in the U.S. He also has written for the Voice, the Nation, and numerous publications in the US and in Europe. We are confident that you will feel encouraged by the force of this article and will want to share it with everyone in your circle who cares about civil liberties, freedom from unjust accusations, unjust laws and Lawrence's case in particular. It is important to share the word about Lawrence's case for people to be aware of the issues, but by sharing this article, it increases the possibility of financial support for Lawrence, which is extremely important. We cannot stress enough the need for helping Lawrence pay for the legal costs of his attorneys and forensic experts. They clearly are working in Lawrence's best interest and Lawrence is grateful to have this stellar legal team on his side. As always, if you have any questions or comments, please feel free to contact us. Here is the link to the article: http://www.gaycitynews.com/articles/2011/11/23/gay_city_news/news/doc4ecd876 a7139d408835502.txt We also encourage everyone to visit http://www.lawrencebroselegaldefensefund.com/ because it is updated with new links and information from time to time. And, by the way, the November 18 Mix NYC Film Festival screening of Lawrence's film De Profundis was a great success with a very thoughtful and informative panel discussion following. We look forward to more opportunities to share the word on Lawrence's case as well as his brilliant work. Thank you for your continued support. The Lawrence Brose Legal Defense Fund Team -- End of Forwarded Message ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
