Re: [Frameworks] Musical Noir?
The player piano and its theme, recurring in Orson Welles' Touch of Evil. Andy Ditzler www.filmlove.org www.johnq.org On Thu, Jun 18, 2015 at 11:10 PM, Shashwati Talukdar m...@shashwati.com wrote: I am looking for examples of the use of music and songs in films that can be described as noir. Where music plays an integral role in moving the film along. Mainstream examples also welcome. -- regards, Shashwati Talukdar 夏雪莉 --- https://www.facebook.com/fournineandahalf http://vimeo.com/shashwati https://www.linkedin.com/profile/preview?vpa=publocale=en_US https://twitter.com/cinedevi http://fournineandahalf.com/ ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
Re: [Frameworks] Musical Noir?
Or Charles Aznavour’s theme in Shoot the Piano Player… On Jun 23, 2015, at 11:56 AM, Andy Ditzler a...@andyditzler.com wrote: The player piano and its theme, recurring in Orson Welles' Touch of Evil. Andy Ditzler www.filmlove.org http://www.filmlove.org/ www.johnq.org http://www.johnq.org/ On Thu, Jun 18, 2015 at 11:10 PM, Shashwati Talukdar m...@shashwati.com mailto:m...@shashwati.com wrote: I am looking for examples of the use of music and songs in films that can be described as noir. Where music plays an integral role in moving the film along. Mainstream examples also welcome. -- regards, Shashwati Talukdar 夏雪莉 --- https://www.facebook.com/fournineandahalf http://vimeo.com/shashwati https://www.linkedin.com/profile/preview?vpa=publocale=en_US https://twitter.com/cinedevi http://fournineandahalf.com/ ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com mailto:FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
Re: [Frameworks] Musical Noir?
The Singing Detective! How could I forget it? 2015-06-21 1:27 GMT-04:00 G golde...@gmail.com: I have not read it but Sheri Chinen Biesen has a new book on what she calls the noir musical called Music in the Shadows. Here's the link on Amazon: http://www.amazon.com/Music-Shadows-Noir-Musical-Films/dp/1421408384/ref=sr_1_2?s=booksie=UTF8qid=1434864371sr=1-2 On Jun 20, 2015, at 10:08 PM, Shashwati Talukdar m...@shashwati.com wrote: These are wonderful examples! thank you! On Sun, Jun 21, 2015 at 7:29 AM, Carl Bogner crlel...@uwm.edu wrote: Abigail Child's Mayhem Dennis Potter's work. (Pennies From Heaven, I'm thinking.) Sent from my iPhone On Jun 20, 2015, at 4:53 PM, Michael Zryd z...@yorku.ca wrote: Janie Geiser’s Immer Zu On Jun 18, 2015, at 11:10 PM, Shashwati Talukdar m...@shashwati.com wrote: I am looking for examples of the use of music and songs in films that can be described as noir. Where music plays an integral role in moving the film along. Mainstream examples also welcome. -- regards, Shashwati Talukdar 夏雪莉 --- https://www.facebook.com/fournineandahalf http://vimeo.com/shashwati https://www.linkedin.com/profile/preview?vpa=publocale=en_US https://twitter.com/cinedevi http://fournineandahalf.com/ ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks *Michael Zryd** • **Associate Professor * Department of Film School of the Arts, Media, Performance Design YORK UNIVERSITY CFT 236 • 4700 Keele Street Toronto ON • Canada M3J 1P3 T 416.736.2100 ext 22173 F 416.736. 5710 / cell: 647-430-8680 / Skype: mjpzryd *z...@yorku.ca z...@yorku.ca* • http://ampd.yorku.ca/about-us/our-faculty/michael-zryd http://finearts.yorku.ca/about-us/our-faculty/michael-zryd • ampd.yorku.ca PastedGraphic-1.tiff This electronic mail (e-mail), including any attachments, is intended only for the recipient(s) to whom it is addressed and may contain information that is privileged, confidential and/or exempt from disclosure. No waiver of privilege, confidentiality or any other protection is intended by virtue of its communication by the internet. Any unauthorized use, dissemination or copying is strictly prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error, or are not named as a recipient, please immediately notify the sender and destroy all copies of it. ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks -- regards, Shashwati Talukdar 夏雪莉 --- https://www.facebook.com/fournineandahalf http://vimeo.com/shashwati https://www.linkedin.com/profile/preview?vpa=publocale=en_US https://twitter.com/cinedevi http://fournineandahalf.com/ ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
Re: [Frameworks] Musical Noir?
These are wonderful examples! thank you! On Sun, Jun 21, 2015 at 7:29 AM, Carl Bogner crlel...@uwm.edu wrote: Abigail Child's Mayhem Dennis Potter's work. (Pennies From Heaven, I'm thinking.) Sent from my iPhone On Jun 20, 2015, at 4:53 PM, Michael Zryd z...@yorku.ca wrote: Janie Geiser’s Immer Zu On Jun 18, 2015, at 11:10 PM, Shashwati Talukdar m...@shashwati.com wrote: I am looking for examples of the use of music and songs in films that can be described as noir. Where music plays an integral role in moving the film along. Mainstream examples also welcome. -- regards, Shashwati Talukdar 夏雪莉 --- https://www.facebook.com/fournineandahalf http://vimeo.com/shashwati https://www.linkedin.com/profile/preview?vpa=publocale=en_US https://twitter.com/cinedevi http://fournineandahalf.com/ ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks *Michael Zryd** • **Associate Professor * Department of Film School of the Arts, Media, Performance Design YORK UNIVERSITY CFT 236 • 4700 Keele Street Toronto ON • Canada M3J 1P3 T 416.736.2100 ext 22173 F 416.736. 5710 / cell: 647-430-8680 / Skype: mjpzryd *z...@yorku.ca z...@yorku.ca* • http://ampd.yorku.ca/about-us/our-faculty/michael-zryd http://finearts.yorku.ca/about-us/our-faculty/michael-zryd • ampd.yorku.ca PastedGraphic-1.tiff This electronic mail (e-mail), including any attachments, is intended only for the recipient(s) to whom it is addressed and may contain information that is privileged, confidential and/or exempt from disclosure. No waiver of privilege, confidentiality or any other protection is intended by virtue of its communication by the internet. Any unauthorized use, dissemination or copying is strictly prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error, or are not named as a recipient, please immediately notify the sender and destroy all copies of it. ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks -- regards, Shashwati Talukdar 夏雪莉 --- https://www.facebook.com/fournineandahalf http://vimeo.com/shashwati https://www.linkedin.com/profile/preview?vpa=publocale=en_US https://twitter.com/cinedevi http://fournineandahalf.com/ ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
Re: [Frameworks] Musical Noir?
Janie Geiser’s Immer Zu On Jun 18, 2015, at 11:10 PM, Shashwati Talukdar m...@shashwati.com wrote: I am looking for examples of the use of music and songs in films that can be described as noir. Where music plays an integral role in moving the film along. Mainstream examples also welcome. -- regards, Shashwati Talukdar 夏雪莉 --- https://www.facebook.com/fournineandahalf http://vimeo.com/shashwati https://www.linkedin.com/profile/preview?vpa=publocale=en_US https://twitter.com/cinedevi http://fournineandahalf.com/___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks Michael Zryd • Associate Professor Department of Film School of the Arts, Media, Performance Design YORK UNIVERSITY CFT 236 • 4700 Keele Street Toronto ON • Canada M3J 1P3 T 416.736.2100 ext 22173 F 416.736. 5710 / cell: 647-430-8680 / Skype: mjpzryd z...@yorku.ca mailto:z...@yorku.ca • http://ampd.yorku.ca/about-us/our-faculty/michael-zryd http://finearts.yorku.ca/about-us/our-faculty/michael-zryd • ampd.yorku.ca http://ampd.yorku.ca/ This electronic mail (e-mail), including any attachments, is intended only for the recipient(s) to whom it is addressed and may contain information that is privileged, confidential and/or exempt from disclosure. No waiver of privilege, confidentiality or any other protection is intended by virtue of its communication by the internet. Any unauthorized use, dissemination or copying is strictly prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error, or are not named as a recipient, please immediately notify the sender and destroy all copies of it. ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
Re: [Frameworks] Musical Noir?
Abigail Child's Mayhem Dennis Potter's work. (Pennies From Heaven, I'm thinking.) Sent from my iPhone On Jun 20, 2015, at 4:53 PM, Michael Zryd z...@yorku.ca wrote: Janie Geiser’s Immer Zu On Jun 18, 2015, at 11:10 PM, Shashwati Talukdar m...@shashwati.com wrote: I am looking for examples of the use of music and songs in films that can be described as noir. Where music plays an integral role in moving the film along. Mainstream examples also welcome. -- regards, Shashwati Talukdar 夏雪莉 --- ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks Michael Zryd • Associate Professor Department of Film School of the Arts, Media, Performance Design YORK UNIVERSITY CFT 236 • 4700 Keele Street Toronto ON • Canada M3J 1P3 T 416.736.2100 ext 22173 F 416.736. 5710 / cell: 647-430-8680 / Skype: mjpzryd z...@yorku.ca • http://ampd.yorku.ca/about-us/our-faculty/michael-zryd • ampd.yorku.ca PastedGraphic-1.tiff This electronic mail (e-mail), including any attachments, is intended only for the recipient(s) to whom it is addressed and may contain information that is privileged, confidential and/or exempt from disclosure. No waiver of privilege, confidentiality or any other protection is intended by virtue of its communication by the internet. Any unauthorized use, dissemination or copying is strictly prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error, or are not named as a recipient, please immediately notify the sender and destroy all copies of it. ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
Re: [Frameworks] Musical Noir?
I have not read it but Sheri Chinen Biesen has a new book on what she calls the noir musical called Music in the Shadows. Here's the link on Amazon: http://www.amazon.com/Music-Shadows-Noir-Musical-Films/dp/1421408384/ref=sr_1_2?s=booksie=UTF8qid=1434864371sr=1-2 On Jun 20, 2015, at 10:08 PM, Shashwati Talukdar m...@shashwati.com wrote: These are wonderful examples! thank you! On Sun, Jun 21, 2015 at 7:29 AM, Carl Bogner crlel...@uwm.edu wrote: Abigail Child's Mayhem Dennis Potter's work. (Pennies From Heaven, I'm thinking.) Sent from my iPhone On Jun 20, 2015, at 4:53 PM, Michael Zryd z...@yorku.ca wrote: Janie Geiser’s Immer Zu On Jun 18, 2015, at 11:10 PM, Shashwati Talukdar m...@shashwati.com wrote: I am looking for examples of the use of music and songs in films that can be described as noir. Where music plays an integral role in moving the film along. Mainstream examples also welcome. -- regards, Shashwati Talukdar 夏雪莉 --- ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks Michael Zryd • Associate Professor Department of Film School of the Arts, Media, Performance Design YORK UNIVERSITY CFT 236 • 4700 Keele Street Toronto ON • Canada M3J 1P3 T 416.736.2100 ext 22173 F 416.736. 5710 / cell: 647-430-8680 / Skype: mjpzryd z...@yorku.ca • http://ampd.yorku.ca/about-us/our-faculty/michael-zryd • ampd.yorku.ca PastedGraphic-1.tiff This electronic mail (e-mail), including any attachments, is intended only for the recipient(s) to whom it is addressed and may contain information that is privileged, confidential and/or exempt from disclosure. No waiver of privilege, confidentiality or any other protection is intended by virtue of its communication by the internet. Any unauthorized use, dissemination or copying is strictly prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error, or are not named as a recipient, please immediately notify the sender and destroy all copies of it. ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks -- regards, Shashwati Talukdar 夏雪莉 --- ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
Re: [Frameworks] Musical Noir?
Hi Shashwati, The first thing that comes to my mind is Tokyo Drifter (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0061101/ http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0061101/), which I’d described as neonoir. There’s a scene in which the protagonist sings a song in a manner that is very related to musical films, but it’s not a musical film. Regards, Blanca Rego (Ø) _ _blank www.null66913.net www.mediateletipos.net De: Shashwati Talukdar m...@shashwati.com Para: Experimental Film Discussion List frameworks@jonasmekasfilms.com Fecha: 19 de junio de 2015, 5:10:34 CEST Asunto: [Frameworks] Musical Noir? I am looking for examples of the use of music and songs in films that can be described as noir. Where music plays an integral role in moving the film along. Mainstream examples also welcome. -- regards, Shashwati Talukdar 夏雪莉 --- https://www.facebook.com/fournineandahalf http://vimeo.com/shashwati https://www.linkedin.com/profile/preview?vpa=publocale=en_US https://twitter.com/cinedevi http://fournineandahalf.com/ ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
Re: [Frameworks] Musical Noir?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MkjHyTUkw5A https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SaGbuoMlIvE https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dOBT3dXK5x4 2015-06-19 9:03 GMT-04:00 _blank bl...@null66913.net: Hi Shashwati, The first thing that comes to my mind is *Tokyo Drifter* ( http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0061101/), which I’d described as neonoir. There’s a scene in which the protagonist sings a song in a manner that is very related to musical films, but it’s not a musical film. Regards, Blanca Rego (Ø) _ _blank www.null66913.net www.mediateletipos.net *De: *Shashwati Talukdar m...@shashwati.com *Para: *Experimental Film Discussion List frameworks@jonasmekasfilms.com *Fecha: *19 de junio de 2015, 5:10:34 CEST *Asunto: **[Frameworks] Musical Noir?* I am looking for examples of the use of music and songs in films that can be described as noir. Where music plays an integral role in moving the film along. Mainstream examples also welcome. -- regards, Shashwati Talukdar 夏雪莉 --- https://www.facebook.com/fournineandahalf http://vimeo.com/shashwati https://www.linkedin.com/profile/preview?vpa=publocale=en_US https://twitter.com/cinedevi http://fournineandahalf.com/ ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
Re: [Frameworks] Musical Noir?
Henry Hathaway's Niagara - the use of the Rainbow Tower's carillon as a recurring element on the soundtrack (it's one of the first things we hear in the film after the title music), as well as a central plot device and location, is quite haunting, anticipatory of similar effects in Vertigo. edo On 6/18/15 11:10 PM, Shashwati Talukdar wrote: I am looking for examples of the use of music and songs in films that can be described as noir. Where music plays an integral role in moving the film along. Mainstream examples also welcome. -- regards, Shashwati Talukdar 夏雪莉 --- https://www.facebook.com/fournineandahalfhttp://vimeo.com/shashwatihttps://www.linkedin.com/profile/preview?vpa=publocale=en_UShttps://twitter.com/cinedevi http://fournineandahalf.com/ ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
[Frameworks] Musical Noir?
I am looking for examples of the use of music and songs in films that can be described as noir. Where music plays an integral role in moving the film along. Mainstream examples also welcome. -- regards, Shashwati Talukdar 夏雪莉 --- https://www.facebook.com/fournineandahalf http://vimeo.com/shashwati https://www.linkedin.com/profile/preview?vpa=publocale=en_US https://twitter.com/cinedevi http://fournineandahalf.com/ ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
