Re: [Frameworks] Trump Virus

2020-03-31 Thread Francisco Torres
''The truth hurts doesn't it, Hapsburg. Oh sure, maybe not as much as
jumping on a bicycle with the seat missing, but it hurts.''

2020-03-31 7:41 GMT-04:00, andre.coli...@telenet.be :
> Thanks Christopher!!!
> - Mail d’origine -
> De: christopher nigel 
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> Objet: Re: [Frameworks] Trump Virus
>
> You should quote & give credit to who's song this is ? The clash
> Songwriters: Joe Strummer / Mick Jones / Paul Simonon / Topper Headon
>
> On Tue, Mar 31, 2020 at 12:48 AM Francisco Torres 
> wrote:
>>
>> Yankee soldier
>> He want to shoot some skag
>> He met it in Cambodia, but now
>> He can't afford a bag
>>
>> Yankee dollar talk
>> To the dictators of the world
>> In fact it's giving orders
>> An' they can't afford to miss a word
>>
>> I'm so bored with the U.S.A.
>> I'm so bored with the U.S.A.
>> But what can I do?
>>
>> Yankee detectives
>> Are always on the TV
>> 'Cause killers in America work
>> Seven days a week
>>
>> Never mind the stars and stripes
>> Let's print the Watergate Tapes
>> I'll salute the New Wave
>> And I hope nobody escapes
>>
>> I'm so bored with the U.S.A.
>> I'm so bored with the U.S.A.
>> But what can I do?
>>
>> I'm so bored with the U.S.A.
>> I'm so bored with the U.S.A.
>> But what can I do?
>>
>> I'm so bored with the U.S.A.
>> I'm so bored with the U.S.A.
>> I'm so bored with the U.S.A.
>> But what can I do?
>>
>> Move up, Starsky
>> For the C.I.A.
>> Suck on Kojak
>> For the USA
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Re: [Frameworks] Trump Virus

2020-03-31 Thread andre . colinet
Thanks Christopher!!!
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De: christopher nigel 
À: Experimental Film Discussion List 
Envoyé: Tue, 31 Mar 2020 13:15:03 +0200 (CEST)
Objet: Re: [Frameworks] Trump Virus

You should quote & give credit to who's song this is ? The clash
Songwriters: Joe Strummer / Mick Jones / Paul Simonon / Topper Headon

On Tue, Mar 31, 2020 at 12:48 AM Francisco Torres  wrote:
>
> Yankee soldier
> He want to shoot some skag
> He met it in Cambodia, but now
> He can't afford a bag
>
> Yankee dollar talk
> To the dictators of the world
> In fact it's giving orders
> An' they can't afford to miss a word
>
> I'm so bored with the U.S.A.
> I'm so bored with the U.S.A.
> But what can I do?
>
> Yankee detectives
> Are always on the TV
> 'Cause killers in America work
> Seven days a week
>
> Never mind the stars and stripes
> Let's print the Watergate Tapes
> I'll salute the New Wave
> And I hope nobody escapes
>
> I'm so bored with the U.S.A.
> I'm so bored with the U.S.A.
> But what can I do?
>
> I'm so bored with the U.S.A.
> I'm so bored with the U.S.A.
> But what can I do?
>
> I'm so bored with the U.S.A.
> I'm so bored with the U.S.A.
> I'm so bored with the U.S.A.
> But what can I do?
>
> Move up, Starsky
> For the C.I.A.
> Suck on Kojak
> For the USA
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Re: [Frameworks] Trump Virus

2020-03-31 Thread christopher nigel
You should quote & give credit to who's song this is ? The clash
Songwriters: Joe Strummer / Mick Jones / Paul Simonon / Topper Headon

On Tue, Mar 31, 2020 at 12:48 AM Francisco Torres  wrote:
>
> Yankee soldier
> He want to shoot some skag
> He met it in Cambodia, but now
> He can't afford a bag
>
> Yankee dollar talk
> To the dictators of the world
> In fact it's giving orders
> An' they can't afford to miss a word
>
> I'm so bored with the U.S.A.
> I'm so bored with the U.S.A.
> But what can I do?
>
> Yankee detectives
> Are always on the TV
> 'Cause killers in America work
> Seven days a week
>
> Never mind the stars and stripes
> Let's print the Watergate Tapes
> I'll salute the New Wave
> And I hope nobody escapes
>
> I'm so bored with the U.S.A.
> I'm so bored with the U.S.A.
> But what can I do?
>
> I'm so bored with the U.S.A.
> I'm so bored with the U.S.A.
> But what can I do?
>
> I'm so bored with the U.S.A.
> I'm so bored with the U.S.A.
> I'm so bored with the U.S.A.
> But what can I do?
>
> Move up, Starsky
> For the C.I.A.
> Suck on Kojak
> For the USA
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Re: [Frameworks] Trump Virus

2020-03-30 Thread Francisco Torres
Yankee soldier
He want to shoot some skag
He met it in Cambodia, but now
He can't afford a bag

Yankee dollar talk
To the dictators of the world
In fact it's giving orders
An' they can't afford to miss a word

I'm so bored with the U.S.A.
I'm so bored with the U.S.A.
But what can I do?

Yankee detectives
Are always on the TV
'Cause killers in America work
Seven days a week

Never mind the stars and stripes
Let's print the Watergate Tapes
I'll salute the New Wave
And I hope nobody escapes

I'm so bored with the U.S.A.
I'm so bored with the U.S.A.
But what can I do?

I'm so bored with the U.S.A.
I'm so bored with the U.S.A.
But what can I do?

I'm so bored with the U.S.A.
I'm so bored with the U.S.A.
I'm so bored with the U.S.A.
But what can I do?

Move up, Starsky
For the C.I.A.
Suck on Kojak
For the USA
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Re: [Frameworks] Trump Virus

2020-03-29 Thread Marcin Gizycki
Why?
MG

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Subject: Re: [Frameworks] Trump Virus

Please do refrain from mixing U.S. politics into this experimental film 
international forum.
r.

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Frameworkers, I think we should all start calling it the Trump Virus. By his 
actions he’s murdering thousands of people. Lets go viral with this.



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From: Alan Sondheim mailto:sondh...@panix.com>>
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mailto:frameworks@jonasmekasfilms.com>>
Cc: jane craford 
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Bcc:
Date: Sat, 28 Mar 2020 19:40:04 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Re: [Frameworks] Trump Virus

Let's not, it's world-wide and giving it that name taints everything.

- Alan

On Sat, 28 Mar 2020, Gene Youngblood wrote:

>
>
> Frameworkers, I think we should all start calling it the Trump Virus. By his
> actions he?s murdering thousands of people. Lets go viral with this.
>
>

web http://www.alansondheim.org/index.html cell 347-383-8552
current text http://www.alansondheim.org/wx.txt




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From: Fred Camper mailto:f...@fredcamper.com>>
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Cc:
Bcc:
Date: Sat, 28 Mar 2020 19:10:47 -0500
Subject: Re: [Frameworks] Trump Virus

On 3/28/2020 6:40 PM, Alan Sondheim wrote:
>
> Let's not, it's world-wide and giving it that name taints everything.
>
> - Alan
>
Yes,

Let's not even discuss him here.

When expressing opinions about him elsewhere, I try to never use his
name. I also try to avoid insults in his style, though some are quire
fun, "The Orange Monster" and the like. I use 'the current American
president," "the current occupant," or similar. He profits, in a sense,
with every mention of his "brand." And we should not turn FrameWorks
into a political discussion group, or we could be swamped. There are
other places for that.

Fred Camper
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Agreed. The president would profit from this--it would just confirm his way of 
dealing with people, as Fred says.

He is "successful" because he is great at drawing all attention to himself. He 
doesn't need our help.

Scott
Central NY

On Sat, Mar 28, 2020 at 8:11 PM Fred Camper 
mailto:f...@fredcamper.com>> wrote:

On 3/28/2020 6:40 PM, Alan Sondheim wrote:
>
> Let's not, it's world-wide and giving it that name taints everything.
>
> - Alan
>
Yes,

Let's not even discuss him here.

When expressing opinions about him elsewhere, I try to never use his
name. I also try to avoid insults in his style, though s

Re: [Frameworks] Trump Virus

2020-03-29 Thread Lourdes Portillo
Really? Where are you?

Sent from my iPhone

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>>4. Re: Trump Virus (Fred Camper)
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>>7. Re: Trump Virus (Lourdes Portillo)
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>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fEs0NHjEjK0=youtu.be 
>> 
>> https://archive.org/details/electronicpaintingwitha247baghdadtuktukdriver 
>> 
>> https://archive.org/details/cinemathequelaptophooligans2020promo45cbr 
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>> Best,
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>> 
>> 
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>> Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPad
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>> 
>> -- Forwarded message --
>> From: Gene Youngblood 
>> To: frameworks@jonasmekasfilms.com
>> Cc: jane craford 
>> Bcc: 
>> Date: Sat, 28 Mar 2020 17:12:32 -0600
>> Subject: [Frameworks] Trump Virus
>> 
>> 
>> Frameworkers, I think we should all start calling it the Trump Virus. By his 
>> actions he’s murdering thousands of people. Lets go viral with this.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> -- Forwarded message --
>> From: Alan Sondheim 
>> To: Experimental Film Discussion List 
>> Cc: jane craford 
>> Bcc: 
>> Date: Sat, 28 Mar 2020 19:40:04 -0400 (EDT)
>> Subject: Re: [Frameworks] Trump Virus
>> 
>> Let's not, it's world-wide and giving it that name taints everything.
>> 
>> - Alan
>> 
>> On Sat, 28 Mar 2020, Gene Youngblood wrote:
>> 
>> > 
>> > 
>> > Frameworkers, I think we should all start calling it the Trump Virus. By 
>> > his
>> > actions he?s murdering thousands of people. Lets go viral with this.
>> > 
>> >
>> 
>> web http://www.alansondheim.org/index.html cell 347-383-8552
>> current text http://www.alansondheim.org/wx.txt
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> -- Forwarded message --
>> From: Fred Camper 
>> To: frameworks@jonasmekasfilms.com
>> Cc: 
>> Bcc: 
>> Date: Sat, 28 Mar 2020 19:10:47 -0500
>> Subject: Re: [Frameworks] Trump Virus
>> 
>> On 3/28/2020 6:40 PM, Alan Sondheim wrote:
>> >
>> > Let's not, it's world-wide and giving it that name taints everything.
>> >
>> > - Alan
>> >
>> Yes,
>> 
>> Let's not even discuss him here.
>> 
>> When expressing opinions about him elsewhere, I try to never use his 
>> name. I also try to avoid insults in his style, though some are quire 
>> fun, "The Orange Monster" and the like. I use 'the current American 
>> president," "the current occupant," or similar. He profits, in a sense, 
>> with every mention of his "brand." And we should not turn FrameWorks 
>> into a political discussion group, or we could be swamped. There are 
>> other places for that.
>> 
>> Fred Camper
>> Chicago
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> -- Forwarded message --
>> From: Scott MacDonald 
>> To: Experimental Film Discussion List 
>> Cc: 
>> Bcc: 
>> Date: Sat, 28 Mar 2020 20:14:37 -0400
>> Subject: Re: [Frameworks] Trump Virus
>> Agreed. The president would profit from this--it would just confirm his way 
>> of dealing with people, as Fred says.
>> 
>>

Re: [Frameworks] Trump Virus

2020-03-29 Thread Raymond Beluga Studio
Please do refrain from mixing U.S. politics into this experimental film
*international* forum.
r.

On Sun, 29 Mar 2020 at 09:22, 
wrote:

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>3. Re: Trump Virus (Alan Sondheim)
>4. Re: Trump Virus (Fred Camper)
>5. Re: Trump Virus (Scott MacDonald)
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>7. Re: Trump Virus (Lourdes Portillo)
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>
>
> -- Forwarded message --
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> Bcc:
> Date: Sat, 28 Mar 2020 22:35:10 + (UTC)
> Subject: [Frameworks] Some new work from me
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fEs0NHjEjK0=youtu.be
>
> https://archive.org/details/electronicpaintingwitha247baghdadtuktukdriver
>
> https://archive.org/details/cinemathequelaptophooligans2020promo45cbr
>
> Best,
> Jaime
>
>
>
>
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> -- Forwarded message ------
> From: Gene Youngblood 
> To: frameworks@jonasmekasfilms.com
> Cc: jane craford 
> Bcc:
> Date: Sat, 28 Mar 2020 17:12:32 -0600
> Subject: [Frameworks] Trump Virus
>
>
> Frameworkers, I think we should all start calling it the Trump Virus. By
> his actions he’s murdering thousands of people. Lets go viral with this.
>
>
>
> ------ Forwarded message --
> From: Alan Sondheim 
> To: Experimental Film Discussion List 
> Cc: jane craford 
> Bcc:
> Date: Sat, 28 Mar 2020 19:40:04 -0400 (EDT)
> Subject: Re: [Frameworks] Trump Virus
>
> Let's not, it's world-wide and giving it that name taints everything.
>
> - Alan
>
> On Sat, 28 Mar 2020, Gene Youngblood wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > Frameworkers, I think we should all start calling it the Trump Virus. By
> his
> > actions he?s murdering thousands of people. Lets go viral with this.
> >
> >
>
> web http://www.alansondheim.org/index.html cell 347-383-8552
> current text http://www.alansondheim.org/wx.txt
>
>
>
>
> -- Forwarded message --
> From: Fred Camper 
> To: frameworks@jonasmekasfilms.com
> Cc:
> Bcc:
> Date: Sat, 28 Mar 2020 19:10:47 -0500
> Subject: Re: [Frameworks] Trump Virus
>
> On 3/28/2020 6:40 PM, Alan Sondheim wrote:
> >
> > Let's not, it's world-wide and giving it that name taints everything.
> >
> > - Alan
> >
> Yes,
>
> Let's not even discuss him here.
>
> When expressing opinions about him elsewhere, I try to never use his
> name. I also try to avoid insults in his style, though some are quire
> fun, "The Orange Monster" and the like. I use 'the current American
> president," "the current occupant," or similar. He profits, in a sense,
> with every mention of his "brand." And we should not turn FrameWorks
> into a political discussion group, or we could be swamped. There are
> other places for that.
>
> Fred Camper
> Chicago
>
>
>
>
> -- Forwarded message --
> From: Scott MacDonald 
> To: Experimental Film Discussion List 
> Cc:
> Bcc:
> Date: Sat, 28 Mar 2020 20:14:37 -0400
> Subject: Re: [Frameworks] Trump Virus
> *Agreed. The president would profit from this--it would just confirm his
> way of dealing with people, as Fred says.*
>
>
> *He is "successful" because he is great at drawing all attention to
> himself. He doesn't need our help.*
>
> *Scott*
> *Central NY*
>
> On Sat, Mar 28, 2020 at 8:11 PM Fred Camper  wrote:
>
>>
>> On 3/28/2020 6:40 PM, Alan Sondheim wrote:
>> >
>> > Let's not, it's world-wide and giving it that name taints everything.
>> >
>> > - Alan
>> >
>> Yes,
>>
>> Let's not even discuss him here.
>>
>> When expressing opinions about him elsewhere, I try to never use his
>> name. I also try to avoid insults in his style, though some are quire
>> fun, "The Orange Monster" and the like. I use 'the current American
>> president,&

Re: [Frameworks] Trump Virus

2020-03-29 Thread Dave Tetzlaff
> I think we should all start calling it the Trump Virus.

It already has a name. I believe it’s covfefe-19.

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Re: [Frameworks] Trump Virus

2020-03-28 Thread Gene Youngblood


OK. Your arguments are valid.

On March 28, 2020 at 6:15:01 PM, Scott MacDonald (smacd...@hamilton.edu) wrote:

Agreed. The president would profit from this--it would just confirm his way of 
dealing with people, as Fred says.

He is "successful" because he is great at drawing all attention to himself. He 
doesn't need our help.

Scott
Central NY

On Sat, Mar 28, 2020 at 8:11 PM Fred Camper  wrote:

On 3/28/2020 6:40 PM, Alan Sondheim wrote:
>
> Let's not, it's world-wide and giving it that name taints everything.
>
> - Alan
>
Yes,

Let's not even discuss him here.

When expressing opinions about him elsewhere, I try to never use his
name. I also try to avoid insults in his style, though some are quire
fun, "The Orange Monster" and the like. I use 'the current American
president," "the current occupant," or similar. He profits, in a sense,
with every mention of his "brand." And we should not turn FrameWorks
into a political discussion group, or we could be swamped. There are
other places for that.

Fred Camper
Chicago
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Re: [Frameworks] Trump Virus

2020-03-28 Thread Fred Camper



On 3/28/2020 6:40 PM, Alan Sondheim wrote:


Let's not, it's world-wide and giving it that name taints everything.

- Alan


Yes,

Let's not even discuss him here.

When expressing opinions about him elsewhere, I try to never use his 
name. I also try to avoid insults in his style, though some are quire 
fun, "The Orange Monster" and the like. I use 'the current American 
president," "the current occupant," or similar. He profits, in a sense, 
with every mention of his "brand." And we should not turn FrameWorks 
into a political discussion group, or we could be swamped. There are 
other places for that.


Fred Camper
Chicago
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Re: [Frameworks] Trump Virus

2020-03-28 Thread Alan Sondheim



Let's not, it's world-wide and giving it that name taints everything.

- Alan

On Sat, 28 Mar 2020, Gene Youngblood wrote:




Frameworkers, I think we should all start calling it the Trump Virus. By his
actions he?s murdering thousands of people. Lets go viral with this.




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[Frameworks] Trump Virus

2020-03-28 Thread Gene Youngblood


Frameworkers, I think we should all start calling it the Trump Virus. By his 
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