Re: [Frameworks] Anthony McCall's films
http://film-makerscoop.com/catalogue/anthony-mccall-line-describing-a-cone On Thu, Sep 13, 2018 at 8:39 PM o...@thenowcorporation.com < o...@thenowcorporation.com> wrote: > mm serra may have some light to shed in this discussion re: fmc. > Unintended pun acknowledged. > > Owen P. > > > On Sep 13, 2018, at 12:50 PM, Chrissie Iles, Curatorial < > chrissie_i...@whitney.org> wrote: > > Responding to this thread (and Anthony can correct me as he is on this > list), Anthony McCall’s spatial film works that Jonathan mentions are not > in distribution catalogues because, like Paul Sharits’ location works and > other expanded cinema works from that period, they are multiple projection > works made to be shown in the physical space of the gallery rather than in > cinemas, where it would be impossible to show them. ‘Line Describing a > Cone’ and ‘Partial Cone’ were the exception to this because they are single > projections. I would be wary of the good old days of film versus the art > world argument, or the implication that the inclusion of ‘Line Describing a > Cone’ in ‘Into the Light’ somehow made his 1970s works less accessible. The > opposite is true. The early works have been restored, and anyone who wants > to show them can contact his gallery, Sean Kelly or Anthony himself. > Likewise, Tony Conrad’s yellow movies can still be borrowed, and are seen > more widely than ever before. The Whitney has ‘Yellow Movie 2/26/73’ (1973) > and six 1970s collage drawings by Conrad in its collection. Many artists > (like Carolee Schneemann, Bruce Conner, Taka Iimura, Harry Smith, Stan > VanDerBeek, Jack Smith, Hollis Frampton, et al) did not work exclusively in > one world or the other; their refusal of purity (which the yellow movies > specifically address) articulated a fluidity of approach that laid the > ground for the current pluralism of the field (though sadly not its racial > and gender diversity, which is finally being addressed in a long-needed > correction). > > Chrissie > > > > *From:* FrameWorks *On Behalf Of > *Eric Theise > *Sent:* Thursday, September 13, 2018 2:32 AM > *To:* Experimental Film Discussion List ; > Jonathan Walley > *Subject:* Re: [Frameworks] Anthony McCall's films > > > > Continuing along Jonathan's line of inquiry, courtesy BAMPFA's Film > Library and Study Center. I know McCall's Line Describing a Cone is from > 1973 but I'm not familiar with the dates in the rest of his filmography so > here's the full dump. > > > > Canyon Cinema Cooperative Catalogue Number One (1966): no McCall. > > Canyon Cinema Cooperative Catalogue Number Two (1969): no McCall. > > Canyon Cinema Cooperative Catalogue Number Two Supplement Number One > (1969): no McCall. > > Canyon Cinema Cooperative Catalogue Number Two Supplement Number Two > (1970): no McCall. > > Canyon Cinema Cooperative Catalogue Number Two Supplement Number Three > (1970): no McCall. Curt McDowell makes a first appearance with A Visit to > Indiana (1970). > > Canyon Cinema Cooperative Catalogue Number Three (1972): no McCall. > > Canyon Cinema Cooperative Catalogue Number Three Supplement (1973): no > McCall. > > Canyon Cinema Cooperative Catalogue Number Three Supplement Number Two > (1974): no McCall. > > Combined with my previous email, the only McCall work available in Canyon > catalogs #4-#8 was Light Describing a Cone. > > > > Film-Makers' Cooperative Catalogue #4 (1967): no McCall. Lots of > Markopoulos though! > > Film-Makers' Cooperative Catalogue #5 (1971): no McCall. > > Film-Makers' Cooperative Catalogue #6 (1975): no McCall. > > > > Light Cone Additif Avril 1991: no McCall. > > Light Cone Catalogue (Mars 1994): no McCall. > > Light Cone Catalogue 1997: Line Describing a Cone only. 250F. > > Light Cone Catalogue 2001: Line Describing a Cone only. 55 €. > > > > LUX catalogs were not available on my visit today. > > > > A few bonus publications: > > Filmmakers Co-Operatives Catalogue of Independent Film (1975/76) & > Supplement (January 1977). These are Australian publications representing > co-ops in Brisbane, Perth, Hobart, Sydney, Melbourne, plus the South > Australia Media Resources Centre (Adelaide). But no McCall. > > > > Film Programmer's Guide to 16mm Rentals, Third Edition (1980). Edited by > Kathleen Weaver, Associate Editor Richard Prelinger, Consulting Editor > Linda J. Artel. Lists Line Describing a Cone as available from CAN (Canyon) > for $40. I'm realizing now that I didn't check the other titles in that > book. Will circle back and check, sorry. > > > > As an aside, I completely forgot about that book. Seeing the cover (below) > transported
Re: [Frameworks] Anthony McCall's films
mm serra may have some light to shed in this discussion re: fmc. Unintended pun acknowledged. Owen P. > On Sep 13, 2018, at 12:50 PM, Chrissie Iles, Curatorial > wrote: > > Responding to this thread (and Anthony can correct me as he is on this list), > Anthony McCall’s spatial film works that Jonathan mentions are not in > distribution catalogues because, like Paul Sharits’ location works and other > expanded cinema works from that period, they are multiple projection works > made to be shown in the physical space of the gallery rather than in cinemas, > where it would be impossible to show them. ‘Line Describing a Cone’ and > ‘Partial Cone’ were the exception to this because they are single > projections. I would be wary of the good old days of film versus the art > world argument, or the implication that the inclusion of ‘Line Describing a > Cone’ in ‘Into the Light’ somehow made his 1970s works less accessible. The > opposite is true. The early works have been restored, and anyone who wants to > show them can contact his gallery, Sean Kelly or Anthony himself. Likewise, > Tony Conrad’s yellow movies can still be borrowed, and are seen more widely > than ever before. The Whitney has ‘Yellow Movie 2/26/73’ (1973) and six 1970s > collage drawings by Conrad in its collection. Many artists (like Carolee > Schneemann, Bruce Conner, Taka Iimura, Harry Smith, Stan VanDerBeek, Jack > Smith, Hollis Frampton, et al) did not work exclusively in one world or the > other; their refusal of purity (which the yellow movies specifically address) > articulated a fluidity of approach that laid the ground for the current > pluralism of the field (though sadly not its racial and gender diversity, > which is finally being addressed in a long-needed correction). > Chrissie > > From: FrameWorks On Behalf Of Eric > Theise > Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2018 2:32 AM > To: Experimental Film Discussion List ; > Jonathan Walley > Subject: Re: [Frameworks] Anthony McCall's films > > Continuing along Jonathan's line of inquiry, courtesy BAMPFA's Film Library > and Study Center. I know McCall's Line Describing a Cone is from 1973 but I'm > not familiar with the dates in the rest of his filmography so here's the full > dump. > > Canyon Cinema Cooperative Catalogue Number One (1966): no McCall. > Canyon Cinema Cooperative Catalogue Number Two (1969): no McCall. > Canyon Cinema Cooperative Catalogue Number Two Supplement Number One (1969): > no McCall. > Canyon Cinema Cooperative Catalogue Number Two Supplement Number Two (1970): > no McCall. > Canyon Cinema Cooperative Catalogue Number Two Supplement Number Three > (1970): no McCall. Curt McDowell makes a first appearance with A Visit to > Indiana (1970). > Canyon Cinema Cooperative Catalogue Number Three (1972): no McCall. > Canyon Cinema Cooperative Catalogue Number Three Supplement (1973): no McCall. > Canyon Cinema Cooperative Catalogue Number Three Supplement Number Two > (1974): no McCall. > Combined with my previous email, the only McCall work available in Canyon > catalogs #4-#8 was Light Describing a Cone. > > Film-Makers' Cooperative Catalogue #4 (1967): no McCall. Lots of Markopoulos > though! > Film-Makers' Cooperative Catalogue #5 (1971): no McCall. > Film-Makers' Cooperative Catalogue #6 (1975): no McCall. > > Light Cone Additif Avril 1991: no McCall. > Light Cone Catalogue (Mars 1994): no McCall. > Light Cone Catalogue 1997: Line Describing a Cone only. 250F. > Light Cone Catalogue 2001: Line Describing a Cone only. 55 €. > > LUX catalogs were not available on my visit today. > > A few bonus publications: > Filmmakers Co-Operatives Catalogue of Independent Film (1975/76) & Supplement > (January 1977). These are Australian publications representing co-ops in > Brisbane, Perth, Hobart, Sydney, Melbourne, plus the South Australia Media > Resources Centre (Adelaide). But no McCall. > > Film Programmer's Guide to 16mm Rentals, Third Edition (1980). Edited by > Kathleen Weaver, Associate Editor Richard Prelinger, Consulting Editor Linda > J. Artel. Lists Line Describing a Cone as available from CAN (Canyon) for > $40. I'm realizing now that I didn't check the other titles in that book. > Will circle back and check, sorry. > > As an aside, I completely forgot about that book. Seeing the cover (below) > transported me back to John Schofill's kitchen table in Chicago, mid-80s, > making lists of films to show at Randolph St Gallery. Also forgot to mention > it to Rick Prelinger who chatted with Kelly Sears about her work after > tonight's screening at BAMPFA. > > Also below: I don't recall seeing those Lenny Lipton designs before. > > E
Re: [Frameworks] Anthony McCall's films
The only two works available thru Canyon has been Light...and Conical Solid. I had talked to Anthony several times during my 32 year tenure and he explained clearly the situation with his other work and why they were not in distribution Dominic Sent from my iPhone > On Sep 13, 2018, at 9:50 AM, Chrissie Iles, Curatorial > wrote: > > McCall ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
Re: [Frameworks] Anthony McCall's films
Canyon #4 (1976), #5 (1982), #6 (1988), #7 (1992), #8 (2000): Light Describing a Cone is the only work available. I've also checked the supplements from 1988, 1989, 1990, 1993, 1994, 1995. McCall is not even in the Film-makers' Coop catalog #7 (1989). On Sat, Aug 18, 2018 at 7:58 AM Ken Eisenstein wrote: > I have the following hard copies of Canyon: > > #4-1976 > #7-1992 > no no.-2000 > > plus > Supplements from 93,94,95 > > and can check through them later today > > On Sat, Aug 18, 2018 at 10:40 AM, Jonathan Walley > wrote: > >> Hello Frameworkers, >> >> I know you all have better things to do, but if anyone has 1) a spare >> moment or two, and 2) old print copies of Canyon Cinema or Filmmakers’ >> Co-op catalogs, I have a question. >> >> Currently, only two of Anthony McCall’s solid light films are available >> for rental from Co-ops: *Line Describing a Cone* and *Conical Solid *(this >> includes Canyon, FMC, Light Cone, and LUX). I believe I recall that *Cone >> of Variable Volume* and *Partial Cone* were once available from at least >> some of these co-ops (not sure about *Long Film for Four Projectors*, >> but I’ll throw that into the mix, too). >> >> Can anyone confirm? This means going rather far back, as I assume that >> the availability of these films changed after “Into the Light” and McCall’s >> new cycle of solid light films, circa 2001/2/3. >> >> Back when you could event rent a *Yellow Movie*, at least from FMC. Ah, >> the days before moving image art. >> >> Thanks in advance for any info, ideas, suggestions. >> All best, >> Jonathan >> >> >> Dr. Jonathan Walley >> Associate Professor and Chair >> Department of Cinema >> Denison University >> >> >> >> >> ___ >> FrameWorks mailing list >> FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com >> https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks >> >> > ___ > FrameWorks mailing list > FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com > https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks > ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
Re: [Frameworks] Anthony McCall's films
I have the following hard copies of Canyon: #4-1976 #7-1992 no no.-2000 plus Supplements from 93,94,95 and can check through them later today On Sat, Aug 18, 2018 at 10:40 AM, Jonathan Walley wrote: > Hello Frameworkers, > > I know you all have better things to do, but if anyone has 1) a spare > moment or two, and 2) old print copies of Canyon Cinema or Filmmakers’ > Co-op catalogs, I have a question. > > Currently, only two of Anthony McCall’s solid light films are available > for rental from Co-ops: *Line Describing a Cone* and *Conical Solid *(this > includes Canyon, FMC, Light Cone, and LUX). I believe I recall that *Cone > of Variable Volume* and *Partial Cone* were once available from at least > some of these co-ops (not sure about *Long Film for Four Projectors*, but > I’ll throw that into the mix, too). > > Can anyone confirm? This means going rather far back, as I assume that the > availability of these films changed after “Into the Light” and McCall’s new > cycle of solid light films, circa 2001/2/3. > > Back when you could event rent a *Yellow Movie*, at least from FMC. Ah, > the days before moving image art. > > Thanks in advance for any info, ideas, suggestions. > All best, > Jonathan > > > Dr. Jonathan Walley > Associate Professor and Chair > Department of Cinema > Denison University > > > > > ___ > FrameWorks mailing list > FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com > https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks > > ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
